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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
On November 03 2013 04:36 Onegu wrote: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/H2Vf597cJD6Y Message 770 and 771 Yes, but you are technically dead. It's just that your flip is delayed. Message 774 confirms that. Sorry Onegu  I was rooting for you! | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On November 03 2013 04:36 Onegu wrote: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/H2Vf597cJD6Y Message 770 and 771 I'll let Ange figure that out. So basically, I want to thank Ange and FT for helping me out with this game. I decided to smurf on the host acc cause of what had happened with me leaving. I thought no one would join if they knew I was hosting the game. Tbh I wanted to give up on the game after the Coag crap cause I was pretty sad and miserable in August but I decided to stick with it because they had put so much into the game and I didn't want that to be worth nothing. I want to thank all of the players and especially Ange and FT. They worked tirelessly on making this game as smooth as possible and our regrettable lack of coordination at times made things hard on Ange. I hope she can forgive me. The best thing that came out of this is in my signature as the quote from Ange...also: (about Onegu getting the Hallows) On 11/1/13, at 9:33 PM, FirmTofu wrote: > ok how about On 11/1/13, at 9:33 PM, FirmTofu wrote: > instead of letting him win On 11/1/13, at 9:33 PM, FirmTofu wrote: > we give hima buff On 11/1/13, at 9:34 PM, FirmTofu wrote: > it makes more sense On 11/1/13, at 9:34 PM, Steven Savini wrote: > we modkill him and make him a co-host On 11/1/13, at 9:34 PM, FirmTofu wrote: > LOL On 11/1/13, at 9:34 PM, Steven Savini wrote: > it's like dying and going to heaven I can talk later about all of the roles and how this game came to be if there is interest. I must go for now. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
 The Deathly Hallows were three items which could be used by their owners. Collecting all three Hallows would have allowed the player to win the game for his faction. The Elder Wand gives 1 KP, the Invisibility Cloak immunity to any night action except for KP and the Resurrection Stone allows a 24h delayed flip. We randomed the items to the players. BH had 1 KP, JAT had the Cloak and Hopeless had the Stone. The Wand allowed scum 2 KP even though they were down to only 3 people but due to good usage of roleblocks and self protections, they never got both KP off. The game still got pretty close in the end when JAT had secured both Wand and Cloak while Onegu had received the Stone from Hopeless. Onegu knew about the Wand and wanted to shoot JAT to get back to 2 KP. Unfortunately for the scum team, JAT had a scum read on him and shot him eliminating the final scum which lead to the town win. There is one more thing I would like to talk about: There was a huge discussion on whether a Squib (VT) was just a regular VT or if he could have any hidden powers. We received PMs asking for some clarification on that subject based on the fact that hosts should not lie to players or mislead them. I just want to state that we did not lie to you. In my opinion asking us to confirm whether a VT is just a VT basically means confirming someone's alignment. In this case, there had already been flipped VT players which should have been enough to prove that a Squib is just a regular VT. I think it's wrong for hosts to actively interfere with the game and such a confirmation would have been that: interfering and influencing the game. Here I chose to not answer that question because a) we made no mistake (you guys almost getting fooled by a scum fake claim is not our responsibility ^^) and b) I don't think correcting hosting mistakes publicly is the right way in general. Having a themed game means that there are a lot of possibilities for hosts outside of regular setups. But it also meant that we tried to keep a lot of mechanics secret. I know several people weren't that happy about it but we shared everything that was relevant to your own role. The info about the Deathly Hallows was in the game as well, but the people who got the items decided against sharing that information although they knew about the hidden win condition. (Probably because they weren't a big impact anyway as scum didn't get the KP through). Not announcing this in the thread is a debateable decision but as both town and scum had information about this I don't consider it a bad idea per se. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
wp Onegu | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On November 03 2013 04:46 cDgCorazon wrote: Also syllo, calling the hosts liars is a pretty dick thing to do. I did not call them liars. The usage of the word was strategic - I wanted to emphasize both to players and hosts that the information provided to us had to be accurate. It was accurate, but I was getting very confused by the answers I was getting as my request for confirmation about the accuracy of said information was not answered. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
I consider this a successful town victory! | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
It looks nice on you! | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
It's never going to be smart to target an IC night one because of trackers and other splash roles. | ||
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
On November 03 2013 04:44 Onegu wrote: I thought774 was talking about I was lynched and then used the nk and died during day post You are correct about 774, I misquoted it. But you are still dying and therefore can not win the game. If you had not been shot, you would have won. Sorry. On November 03 2013 04:49 syllogism wrote: Asking whether VT is just a VT is not confirming someone's alignment. Whether you answer a question or not should not depend on what is going on in the game. You are actively influencing the game by refusing to answer a question you would otherwise answer. Of course, if you before the game decided that the nature of VT should remain a mystery, that's one thing, although that's very hard to justify. I did not decide that the nature of a VT should remain a mystery. I clearly stated that everything you need to know is in the thread. I was implying that you should just go back to read the flipped VT role PMs to get your confirmation yourself. I did not choose to ignore this question based on what was going on in the game. We received several PMs with questions about other people's roles we declined to answer. It was just our rule to not share any role information outside of player's own role PM. | ||
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