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On October 17 2013 17:18 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 17:11 yamato77 wrote:
Super, care to comment on any reads?
What do you make of Toad's play thus far, given that you interacted with him more than anyone else? toad has obviously fun playing this game. But I don't know. He's really good at playing scum. Right now he is rather protown and today we shouldn't even consider lynching him.
Does it seem to you like he's earnestly concerned with finding mafia, given how he's gone about his suspicions thus far?
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Just got on, reading thread.
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On October 17 2013 17:16 yamato77 wrote:
I mean, as town, why would the setup be the only thing you want to talk about?
It makes more sense that he does this as mafia, in my opinion. I'm not 100%, but he's on the list.
Interesting.
I didn't take him to be a new player based on how manipulative I felt he was when conversing.
Perhaps hes new to this forum; but I doubt he is new of mafia/debating.
For me personally, I don't have confidence to assign his obsession with houses as a hardline town/scum tell.
Other than the manipulation aspect:
What I don't like, is how he went ad-hom into Hopeless1der to propel his argument.
I am not sure what to make of how quickly Hopeless1der caved in, either.
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On October 17 2013 17:19 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 17:18 supersoft wrote:On October 17 2013 17:11 yamato77 wrote:
Super, care to comment on any reads?
What do you make of Toad's play thus far, given that you interacted with him more than anyone else? toad has obviously fun playing this game. But I don't know. He's really good at playing scum. Right now he is rather protown and today we shouldn't even consider lynching him. Does it seem to you like he's earnestly concerned with finding mafia, given how he's gone about his suspicions thus far?
No not yet. But I am also not yet earnestly concerned with finding scum. My first goal in a game is always to direct the conversations to get some kind of pressure on anyone and I think toad did the same. How am I supposed to find scum, if there is no content in the thread :-/
I am not sure about toad though. His play fits both his scum and townplay right now.
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I have a distaste for koshi :/ Apparently it's really obvious when he's playing town or scum but I never see it, it's always spam to me. As for rayn I've only played 1 game with him and he was scum, I would be confident identifying his traits if he displayed them though.
In terms of their posts so far. Toad was being aggressive on Skan and koshi jumped all over him after that, seemed a bit overloaded over something so small. Skan made sense for one or two of his points but there was still a lot of pointless nitpicking going on, on koshi's end.
He kinda went absent after that so not sure if he was around for the rest of the conversations but Skan is also new so his responses are of course going to be flustered, would have assumed koshi would look at something like that instead of being so biased.
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The more I read his filter the more it looks like "let's jump this guy", "oh it's fading away, next topic, bye!"
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On October 17 2013 17:25 Holyflare wrote:
I have a distaste for koshi :/ Apparently it's really obvious when he's playing town or scum but I never see it, it's always spam to me. As for rayn I've only played 1 game with him and he was scum, I would be confident identifying his traits if he displayed them though.
In terms of their posts so far. Toad was being aggressive on Skan and koshi jumped all over him after that, seemed a bit overloaded over something so small. Skan made sense for one or two of his points but there was still a lot of pointless nitpicking going on, on koshi's end.
He kinda went absent after that so not sure if he was around for the rest of the conversations but Skan is also new so his responses are of course going to be flustered, would have assumed koshi would look at something like that instead of being so biased.
These thoughts are synonymous with my own.
My additions:
Koshi surprised me, not with the spam, but the early try-hard "case".
Toad is in my house, and said hes in class.
I liked Toad nitpicking Supersoft on the our/town thing.
But i find it really weird his response to my SAM claim.
In the QT/thread he claims to have an anti-town role; but is of the opinion that 3 people in our house could have anti-town roles. That just confuses the fuck out of me.
I thought Supersoft assessment was on point for Toad. Hes on hold for now - and is certainly not worth considering.
If Pandain wants to give Grack a meta read based on Thug Life.
My personal opinion is that Pandain is looking better than he did in Noir. I will give him slight town lean based on meta; and hopefully he can firm that up as the game proceeds.
On Yamato: Im at loggerheads. Im pissed he suggested I was scum earlier and am somewhat dismayed by his lack of aura/presence when entering the thread. However, I like his pick-up on Mattchew as I felt the same way.
On Syllo: I don't get the feeling from this game that he is interested in solving it/progressing it.
The pressure on pandain didn't feel natural; and was dropped too easily/conveniently for my liking.
Has anyone here played with Syllo enough to confirm if he is a slow starter?
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On October 17 2013 17:43 Holyflare wrote:
The more I read his filter the more it looks like "let's jump this guy", "oh it's fading away, next topic, bye!"
Yes, precisely.
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Sorry really busy yesterday I am catching up now.
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On October 17 2013 17:24 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 17:19 yamato77 wrote:On October 17 2013 17:18 supersoft wrote:On October 17 2013 17:11 yamato77 wrote:
Super, care to comment on any reads?
What do you make of Toad's play thus far, given that you interacted with him more than anyone else? toad has obviously fun playing this game. But I don't know. He's really good at playing scum. Right now he is rather protown and today we shouldn't even consider lynching him. Does it seem to you like he's earnestly concerned with finding mafia, given how he's gone about his suspicions thus far? No not yet. But I am also not yet earnestly concerned with finding scum. My first goal in a game is always to direct the conversations to get some kind of pressure on anyone and I think toad did the same. How am I supposed to find scum, if there is no content in the thread :-/ I am not sure about toad though. His play fits both his scum and townplay right now.
This is fair - I take a different approach than you all early on D1.
I will be watching him regardless.
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From my limited experience, primarily from Space Station Mafia, syllo is a control freak when town, especially with role heavy setups. He should be zipping around trying to root out the scum from his QT and trying to find ways to abuse this setup. His in thread presence can be limited, but his involvment in the game should not be. Still reading.
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On October 17 2013 17:56 Onegu wrote:
Sorry really busy yesterday I am catching up now.
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On October 17 2013 17:55 yamato77 wrote:
Syllo is a slow starter.
I confirm that.
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On October 17 2013 07:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 07:49 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 17 2013 07:41 Holyflare wrote:On October 17 2013 07:34 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 17 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote:
you wanna follow up on my post about towns best interest?
Do you still think that phrasing gives you anything about my alignment? I don't think it's a good idea. If you're keeping the vast majority in here and talk about weather in the QT that's fine with me and I think it is a lot better than having everyone spam it up in here. Idk. I don't believe people who say they don't slip like that, I also don't believe you have to have slipped there at all. I do believe that I apparently make it look like single phrases that I find odd for whatever reason are huge things for me. I just like pointing it out and hearing opinions about it unless a shitton of that stuff masses together. To big of chance to just be wrong on it otherwise. Pointing it out without waiting for him to do it again later or changing defeats the object of it doesn't it? It's totally baseless, especially if he isn't a native english speaker. On a different topic let me reiterate: + Show Spoiler +On October 17 2013 06:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.
Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo. Can we assume so though? It is randomly distributed after all. We had something similar in our QT. Storrzerg asked pretty much the same thing. Then there was Grack, he said he would not be participating in the pick up line event unless we had some spare, never knew google was a hard concept for some. What would be the point in not participating at this point as these items seem to be game changing, does he not want to win? What would be people's motive (Grack) to not participate in an event? These items seem to be useful for finding scum and he implied that he didn't care which house they went to in the QT. Seeing as scum is randomly distributed it would be detrimental to go to another house that you don't know how many scum are in it. Why does he not care? (From phone) Re: gracks indifference to the item. I think he is of the opinion that the houses are just a flavor thing and that we have no real way to manipulate the item/contest to benefit town by getting it all for his self. Assuming town>scum in each house the overall effect should be the same, no? Who cares if townie A or townie B gets it? Well. You don't know how many scum are where. What if an entire house is scum? Surely you play to our win con - find and kill scum scum. These items imply that they will be nothing but helpful in doing so. If you know you are town, why would you not want something beneficial to use to help our victory, especially doing something as simple as googling a pick up line. What is the DOWNSIDE to not participating?
Sorry I am still catching up and when I see something to point out I will do so. I agree with the first part, since it is impossible to know the scum distribution then it is alao possible that scum do not know the members of each house. For this reason I think it is a bad idea to post house lists, moreso in this game than in GoT since it is a qt and not just pms. I am not caught up and the house lists might already be out, and if they are look at the people who gave out house lists first, in GoT the first person who just gave out house lists while argueing for doing so was scum. The second part being lazy isnt much of a scum tell imo.
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Thoughts on raynpelikonoshi, Mattchew?
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I still would like to see Sn0_Man in an early grave
I'll look at him more tomorrow
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On October 17 2013 18:00 EchelonTee wrote:
From my limited experience, primarily from Space Station Mafia, syllo is a control freak when town, especially with role heavy setups. He should be zipping around trying to root out the scum from his QT and trying to find ways to abuse this setup. His in thread presence can be limited, but his involvment in the game should not be. Still reading.
You're thinking of sandroba.
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On October 17 2013 07:10 I-be-Pro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 07:05 supersoft wrote:On October 17 2013 07:01 You-Know-Who wrote:
No more posting from QTs! Last warning.
Ange what where it that rule? you only said that posting PMs is forbidden... :-o It's okay though... I guess everyone should now talk in this thread. Use your QTs only for the absolute necessary things please. I need to see everything you're talking to be able to get a proper image of you. It's in towns best interest to share as many information as possible. I'm going to keep spamming in my QT. I treat my house QT as a nice chat with people to get a better read on them in person through casual chit chat. I can't just spam that much in here... I'm keeping it that way and I don't think you need to know when we're joking about the host being a german female and all that. Rather be happy that some people have additional info they'd otherwise not have if they're willing to put in some time that way.
I really, really dislike this. The QT's are basically imperfect mason circles; while a mason circle with confirmed townies is extremely powerful to bounce reads off one another, one that almost definitely has scum in it is very open to manipulation. Any interesting information (people's town lists anyone?) that is listed in a QT, but not in the thread will still make it to the scum, giving them an edge. The QTs are also inferior compared to PM circles, as you can pick and choose who you PM and try to get share information only with people you believe to be town. The majority of the activity should be in thread.
I don't doubt that Toad will be active in the thread, but hidden information in QTs is decisively negative. I'm also still considering if the town as a whole should decide on how to use the prizes from challenges or not; putting it up to a town vote would 1.) generate healthy discussion, 2.)allow the town to have more control how these power items will be used.
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On October 17 2013 18:28 LastArgument wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 18:00 EchelonTee wrote:
From my limited experience, primarily from Space Station Mafia, syllo is a control freak when town, especially with role heavy setups. He should be zipping around trying to root out the scum from his QT and trying to find ways to abuse this setup. His in thread presence can be limited, but his involvment in the game should not be. Still reading. You're thinking of sandroba.
ah crap. I don't really remember syllo then
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