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On October 17 2013 11:57 Mattchew wrote:
shouldn't palmar and syllo be figuring out each others alignment?
im going to bed
why just them?
I don't know this group that well so if someone could explain their history that would be cool
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##Expelliarmus! yamato77
butterbeer on me
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also im guessing mocsta is sirius black
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On October 17 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
##Expelliarmus! yamato77
butterbeer on me
What did that do?
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On October 17 2013 11:38 yamato77 wrote:
you can definitely have 2 people in 3 QTs man.
i fucking hate stats
no I meant you can't have "Toad and Yamato" distributed in 3 different QTs. Toad and Yamato will either end up in the same QT or in 2 different QT's but never in more than 2 QT's because it's only 2 people, so only the 4 after that matter 
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On October 17 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
##Expelliarmus! yamato77
butterbeer on me
if that does anything to me kill this man
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On October 17 2013 13:05 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
##Expelliarmus! yamato77
butterbeer on me if that does anything to me kill this man
aren't you a strong enough wizard to block a simple disarming spell?
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From what has resulted so far there are some very good observations that can be made.
- Grack is playing like his playstyle in Thug Life, although it isn't conclusive it reads to me he is town.
- Griffindor is me, Vayne, justanothertownie, Cephiro, Stutters695, and Rayne/Koshi.
- I am not going to be participating in the pick-up line contest as I am suspicious of three lurkers in my house and then Vayne has always been hard for me.
- Grackaroni, however, you know you are town and you have good players in your house. Why do you not try to get the item and then convince what is most likely a majority of townies to use it in a town aspect. .
- StorrZerg pushes someone but then never follows up, has your read changed Storr? I actually don't think this is that scummy but it is interesting.
On October 17 2013 08:35 Mattchew wrote:
a lot of soft accusations being thrown at Skanjab1s
and dont we always have to lynch the self aware miller or is that some other weird role?
On October 17 2013 10:58 Mattchew wrote:nothing, other than that he claimed miller in the first post and that was either really bold play as mafia or smart play as town
Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 10:54 Grackaroni wrote:On October 17 2013 10:52 Mattchew wrote:On October 17 2013 08:07 Grackaroni wrote:On October 17 2013 07:41 Holyflare wrote:On October 17 2013 07:34 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 17 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote:
you wanna follow up on my post about towns best interest?
Do you still think that phrasing gives you anything about my alignment? I don't think it's a good idea. If you're keeping the vast majority in here and talk about weather in the QT that's fine with me and I think it is a lot better than having everyone spam it up in here. Idk. I don't believe people who say they don't slip like that, I also don't believe you have to have slipped there at all. I do believe that I apparently make it look like single phrases that I find odd for whatever reason are huge things for me. I just like pointing it out and hearing opinions about it unless a shitton of that stuff masses together. To big of chance to just be wrong on it otherwise. Pointing it out without waiting for him to do it again later or changing defeats the object of it doesn't it? It's totally baseless, especially if he isn't a native english speaker. On a different topic let me reiterate: + Show Spoiler +On October 17 2013 06:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.
Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo. Can we assume so though? It is randomly distributed after all. We had something similar in our QT. Storrzerg asked pretty much the same thing. Then there was Grack, he said he would not be participating in the pick up line event unless we had some spare, never knew google was a hard concept for some. What would be the point in not participating at this point as these items seem to be game changing, does he not want to win? What would be people's motive (Grack) to not participate in an event? These items seem to be useful for finding scum and he implied that he didn't care which house they went to in the QT. Seeing as scum is randomly distributed it would be detrimental to go to another house that you don't know how many scum are in it. Why does he not care? I don't know how many scum are in my house either lol. i didnt like this "lol", i thought it looked pretty weak wat. saying lol at the end of a sentence is what you do when your texting a girl and you're nervous she wont understand what you're saying is a joke, aka weakness
On October 17 2013 10:59 Mattchew wrote:
i want to change my use of "smart" to "correct"
Suspicious weak justification, and if it was in his opinion correct play why would we lynch him.
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I wouldn't bother with the statistical probability of there being mafia in only two houses. It's almost certain that roles have abilities that at least somewhat match their flavor and they were designed before their houses were RNGed. That is to say, mafia characters and roles were designed before any RNG and therefore their houses were not chosen randomly. Even if mafia has fake claims the same thing applies; the fake claims must match their house flavors and it seems very unlikely that those fake claims were designed after players were shuffled.
All this is quite useless at this stage, but may have some utility in the end game if the game is close.
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 17 2013 13:36 Pandain wrote:From what has resulted so far there are some very good observations that can be made. - Grack is playing like his playstyle in Thug Life, although it isn't conclusive it reads to me he is town.
- Griffindor is me, Vayne, justanothertownie, Cephiro, Stutters695, and Rayne/Koshi.
- I am not going to be participating in the pick-up line contest as I am suspicious of three lurkers in my house and then Vayne has always been hard for me.
- Grackaroni, however, you know you are town and you have good players in your house. Why do you not try to get the item and then convince what is most likely a majority of townies to use it in a town aspect. .
- StorrZerg pushes someone but then never follows up, has your read changed Storr? I actually don't think this is that scummy but it is interesting.
Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 08:35 Mattchew wrote:
a lot of soft accusations being thrown at Skanjab1s
and dont we always have to lynch the self aware miller or is that some other weird role? Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 10:58 Mattchew wrote:On October 17 2013 10:51 yamato77 wrote:
matt, what do you think about Moc? nothing, other than that he claimed miller in the first post and that was either really bold play as mafia or smart play as town
On October 17 2013 10:54 Grackaroni wrote:On October 17 2013 10:52 Mattchew wrote:On October 17 2013 08:07 Grackaroni wrote:On October 17 2013 07:41 Holyflare wrote:On October 17 2013 07:34 I-be-Pro wrote:On October 17 2013 07:27 supersoft wrote:
you wanna follow up on my post about towns best interest?
Do you still think that phrasing gives you anything about my alignment? I don't think it's a good idea. If you're keeping the vast majority in here and talk about weather in the QT that's fine with me and I think it is a lot better than having everyone spam it up in here. Idk. I don't believe people who say they don't slip like that, I also don't believe you have to have slipped there at all. I do believe that I apparently make it look like single phrases that I find odd for whatever reason are huge things for me. I just like pointing it out and hearing opinions about it unless a shitton of that stuff masses together. To big of chance to just be wrong on it otherwise. Pointing it out without waiting for him to do it again later or changing defeats the object of it doesn't it? It's totally baseless, especially if he isn't a native english speaker. On a different topic let me reiterate: + Show Spoiler +On October 17 2013 06:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 06:41 I-be-Pro wrote:
Okay I'm done with the contest. Just won it. So let's talk mafia.
Anything interesting happening in your QT supersoft? This skanjab guy asked in mine wether mafia has 1 member per house.
Rather scummy question to me. There's really not much to get out of that. Obviously everyone assumes so at this point but what do you expect the hosts to answer to that? Up until this point it's just a no-brainer question that might have not been a no-brainer for him. I ask that kind of questions all the time but this particular one really makes it sound like he's trying to "just post something" and look like he's participating imo. Can we assume so though? It is randomly distributed after all. We had something similar in our QT. Storrzerg asked pretty much the same thing. Then there was Grack, he said he would not be participating in the pick up line event unless we had some spare, never knew google was a hard concept for some. What would be the point in not participating at this point as these items seem to be game changing, does he not want to win? What would be people's motive (Grack) to not participate in an event? These items seem to be useful for finding scum and he implied that he didn't care which house they went to in the QT. Seeing as scum is randomly distributed it would be detrimental to go to another house that you don't know how many scum are in it. Why does he not care? I don't know how many scum are in my house either lol. i didnt like this "lol", i thought it looked pretty weak wat. saying lol at the end of a sentence is what you do when your texting a girl and you're nervous she wont understand what you're saying is a joke, aka weakness Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 10:59 Mattchew wrote:
i want to change my use of "smart" to "correct" Suspicious weak justification, and if it was in his opinion correct play why would we lynch him.
Thanks for telling us what we can see...
The people that you mention as being lurkers. What time zone are they in? They could be asleep so not participating just yet seems a little bit hasty.
You also mention the things about Grack that we have already brought up and discussed. Why? You call him townish based on another game but then give him pointers..? We've already discussed what he should do. What need is there to reinforce what's already been said?
I don't see any pressure from storr either? It looks like sarcasm if that's the post you're referring to. However, he does highlight sn0 who I am inclined to agree with him on. Sn0_man has posted one thing of use. That point highlights scum motives behind Grack's moves. However, many things were also going on at the time and he had no input on them at all since then. He was active in QT but not so much here too. I would like to know why and want to hear a lot more input.
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What I really actually want to know Pandain is why the summary but leave out the entire starting argument? What did you glean from Skanjab1s replies to Toads pressure. Deflecting?
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Also mocsta etc. Why did you leave so much out in your first post???
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On October 17 2013 13:36 Pandain wrote:
From what has resulted so far there are some very good observations that can be made.
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[*]Grack is playing like his playstyle in Thug Life, although it isn't conclusive it reads to me he is town.
[*]Griffindor is me, Vayne, justanothertownie, Cephiro, Stutters695, and Rayne/Koshi.
[*]I am not going to be participating in the pick-up line contest as I am suspicious of three lurkers in my house and then Vayne has always been hard for me.
[*]Grackaroni, however, you know you are town and you have good players in your house. Why do you not try to get the item and then convince what is most likely a majority of townies to use it in a town aspect. .
[*]StorrZerg pushes someone but then never follows up, has your read changed Storr? I actually don't think this is that scummy but it is interesting.
Do you genuinely think this is a list of "very good observations"? The only actual "observation" of any note and utility is the first one and I would like you to elaborate on that a bit. Did you believe he was playing his Thug Life playstyle when I initially asked as to why you thought he was "pretty obviously" town or was that based on something else?
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On October 17 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.
Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing The mocking of the hufflepuffs will not stand. This man has the blood of the Ravenclaws, for too long they have mocked us. We will have our revenge. ##Vote: Sn0_Man Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s
Bring it on slytherin scum you guys just write it down here or are you actually going to vote? because if you don't, it looks like you dont want your voting patterns to be in the votingthread.
Did you find this suspicious?
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The problem with lurkers is even if they have a good reason to lurk more often then not town players try to overcome their being disadvantaged from lurking while scum players will embrace it and act dumb. I have played for instance with the two players in my house Cephiro and Stutters and they both purposely lurked in Noir.
The fact they could be asleep is also offset by the fact that Cephiro recently made a long post that clearly showed thought yet put off contributing in thread. Cephiro would you like to explain that?
I have a town read on Grack because he is embracing his role but is still making some good points, but he is making a really weird point about not contributing which is really nonsensical to me. There could be a scum motivation to it, such as if his house is only him and therefore he doesn't want to help contribute, or there is the more likely instance that he simply hasn't thought it through. I want to eliminate the possibilities.
Skanjab I have a town read on and I don't have a good read on Toad yet.
Was your intent with this post to pressure me or are you serious; you've been looking for flaws where there really aren't any and it's contradicting with what I think you would be doing in looking for actually suspicious people. You don't think StorrZerg, being an esports mafia veteran taking a back seat in his first game of forum mafia is suspicious?
You are putting assumptions about what I'm doing without any real logic, and I don't see any town reason.
On October 17 2013 15:13 Holyflare wrote:
What I really actually want to know Pandain is why the summary but leave out the entire starting argument? What did you glean from Skanjab1s replies to Toads pressure. Deflecting?
If you say this, is any response really going to help you?
You say I left so much out, do you really expect me to put everything?
You set higher standards for me then what is expected and I am interested in why.
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Grack is not certain town but probably town.
He posted a lot early on and made jokes. I haven't seen scum do that early on though I acknowledge it could happen. Usually town are the very first ones to post, and him making jokes amplifies my town reads.
He also made very weak arguments in Thug Life which is why I thought he was scum, but it ended up being wrong.
On October 17 2013 06:48 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 06:40 supersoft wrote:On October 17 2013 06:38 Grackaroni wrote:On October 17 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote:On October 17 2013 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.
Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing The mocking of the hufflepuffs will not stand. This man has the blood of the Ravenclaws, for too long they have mocked us. We will have our revenge. ##Vote: Sn0_Man On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s
Bring it on slytherin scum you guys just write it down here or are you actually going to vote? because if you don't, it looks like you dont want your voting patterns to be in the votingthread. You must not be from Gryffindor! A very cowardly act to accuse a loyal hufflepuff of being afraid to place his vote in the voting thread. what holds you back then? 1) the voting thread wasn't even created when I posted. 2) It's not a real vote 3) Watching for players being afraid to put votes in the voting thread at the start of the game is a silly and ineffective method of scumhunting.
This is fine for an explanation, what about you?
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To add to this, I think there are better targets then Grack for right now, I'm waiting for a response to my question for him which will either solidify my town read of him or possibly rescind it. I'm not ignoring him entirely.
Holyflare is quite interesting, but he'll slip up eventually if he is scum.
Storr we will see.
And there are probably at least two scum in the lurkers, if not more.
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That is a very satisfactory explanation of your perspective and your posts seem much more reasonable than in the games I've seen you play as mafia.
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On October 17 2013 13:13 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 13:05 yamato77 wrote:On October 17 2013 12:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
##Expelliarmus! yamato77
butterbeer on me if that does anything to me kill this man aren't you a strong enough wizard to block a simple disarming spell?
I'm sick of you.
##Vote VayneAuthority
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On October 17 2013 15:43 Pandain wrote:Grack is not certain town but probably town. He posted a lot early on and made jokes. I haven't seen scum do that early on though I acknowledge it could happen. Usually town are the very first ones to post, and him making jokes amplifies my town reads. He also made very weak arguments in Thug Life which is why I thought he was scum, but it ended up being wrong. Show nested quote +On October 17 2013 06:48 Grackaroni wrote:On October 17 2013 06:40 supersoft wrote:On October 17 2013 06:38 Grackaroni wrote:On October 17 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote:On October 17 2013 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.
Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing The mocking of the hufflepuffs will not stand. This man has the blood of the Ravenclaws, for too long they have mocked us. We will have our revenge. ##Vote: Sn0_Man On October 17 2013 06:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##vote: Skanjab1s
Bring it on slytherin scum you guys just write it down here or are you actually going to vote? because if you don't, it looks like you dont want your voting patterns to be in the votingthread. You must not be from Gryffindor! A very cowardly act to accuse a loyal hufflepuff of being afraid to place his vote in the voting thread. what holds you back then? 1) the voting thread wasn't even created when I posted. 2) It's not a real vote 3) Watching for players being afraid to put votes in the voting thread at the start of the game is a silly and ineffective method of scumhunting. This is fine for an explanation, what about you?
heeeeeey I wasn't that bad in thug life. What good points have I made? I've barely commented on anyone and I posted at the start of Golden Sun.
I'm not really against sending in a pickup line I'm just lazy. I don't view my house as a particularly good group of townies and don't really care too much if it goes to another house.
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