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syllogism
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Holyflare
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raynpelikonoshi
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- Zaragon attacked Skanjabs early on in D1. Zaragon is relatively new. Doubt he would be soft bussing like that. - Attacks town!yamato and is very aggressive on D1. Points towards town. - He is making enemies and doesn't give shit about it. I doubt a person who's not played here on TL would do that as scum, especially against a portion of the strongest players in this game. - Consistent with his reads on D1, pushes Sno for the rest of the day after yamato. - This is an odd post: On October 20 2013 05:27 Skanjab1s wrote: If theres an sk, his shot would likely be on Toad, because it kills 2 peeps instead of one. On D2 start. Skanjabs how would a possible SK know shooting Toad would kill 2 people? - Okay this is weird. D1 (when Sno push starts): I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable. On D2 however: On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote: I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing. I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now. - Weird voting on D2. - Contradicts himself again on yamato - Okay everything after that is fucking bullshit. I am probably wrong about Grack. Let's lynch the hell out of Skanjabs. I am really sad i missed the most of D2. This dude should have been lynched then. | ||
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syllogism
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Holyflare
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On October 30 2013 15:57 syllogism wrote: I'm sorry, quoting my own posts is not repackaging and the context is not the same as all as you were claiming to be giving town direction it desperately needed when all you did it was repeat what had been said before and presented a policy or a lurker lynch as the road map to winning the game. Again, I'm not going to discuss this any further with you as I'm not trying to convince you of anything. It's ridiculous because A) one of the people i mentioned got policy lynched anyway B) stutters case made sense C) sn0 had content that looked fishy If 2 out of the 3 people i made a case in got lybched during the course of the game, that's totally an irrelevant case basis in the first 24 hours of the game isn't it. | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=431052¤tpage=94#1861 Just gonna link that till people realise you make no sense. | ||
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raynpelikonoshi
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
What I want to know is: What benefit is there to lynch Holyflare before Blazinghand? Holy has a point -> Sn0 is dead; we all said that means BH *is* mafia. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/d0qoKhS) http://imgur.com/d0qoKhS This is the votes with a team of {Skan, BH, Onegu} I don't really like the pattern of this. Interestingly.. this setup does make some sense to me in pattern ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/ufvRlN2) http://imgur.com/ufvRlN2 {Skan, BH, Rayn} | ||
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Mocsta
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On October 30 2013 16:43 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Holyflare how much mafia have you played? Hes just come off the newbies. Some of what he said on Onegu is fine; some of it is a very bad interpretation. In my opinion HF case on Onegu leans much more heavily towards tunneled town (whether right or wrong in read) than scum making a fake case. Its a far better effort than your about turn on Skanjab (again whether right or wrong) ##Unvote ##Vote: Blazinghand | ||
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Holyflare
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raynpelikonoshi
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raynpelikonoshi
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##Vote: Skanjab1s I just can't vote for Holyflare. | ||
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raynpelikonoshi
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If one of them is town, Grack must be scum. There is no other explanation. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
Holyflare not only has a role that would require hosts lying to us, but he has also lied to us about the role in a way that makes almost no sense to town. His attitude and approach for his defense is completely wrong. He never even once entertained the possibility of hosts issuing a correction, but immediately pushed the idea that they would never do that even though that is blatantly wrong. There's also the issue of town already having a flipped hidden voter. Having two town aligned hidden voters is by itself suspicious. If we don't lynch him today we may actually lose because you people are going to keep refusing lynching him ever day and he is mafia. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9387 Posts
On October 30 2013 16:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote: Blazinghand, Onegu and Skanjabs must be scum. If one of them is town, Grack must be scum. There is no other explanation. And why do you not vote blazinghand? | ||
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Mocsta
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On October 30 2013 16:59 syllogism wrote: A VT with a power does not pass even a rudimentary "sour grapes" setup design test. The hosts have confirmed that squibs have no powers. They have been given an opportunity to issue a correction and have not done so. A one shot power is still a power and indeed we've had blues flip with one-shot powers (e.g palmar). You can not explain that away by saying "oh he is just a VT with a flavor based reason for this power not to be a power", especially due to what polyjuice's wording. Holyflare not only has a role that would require hosts lying to us, but he has also lied to us about the role in a way that makes almost no sense to town. His attitude and approach for his defense is completely wrong. He never even once entertained the possibility of hosts issuing a correction, but immediately pushed the idea that they would never do that even though that is blatantly wrong. There's also the issue of town already having a flipped hidden voter. Having two town aligned hidden voters is by itself suspicious. If we don't lynch him today we may actually lose because you people are going to keep refusing lynching him ever day and he is mafia. Yeah ok. I can understand where you are coming from. It's exacerbated by the bus on blazing. What do you make of rayn dropping holyflare immediately? | ||
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