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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 29 2013 23:53 GMT
#4981
3 scum, 3 places I'd be comfortable putting my vote on. I'm not rehashing what's already been said, you can read the thread.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2013 00:15 GMT
#4982
Hey where's my Blazinghands at?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 30 2013 00:36 GMT
#4983
On October 23 2013 05:01 You-Know-Who wrote:
VayneAuthority as Ginny Weasley has been modkilled.

You are Ginny Weasley. Your parents sent you to Hogwarts to educate you into a proper witch but it turns out you are a Squib.

On October 28 2013 05:00 You-Know-Who wrote:
Chairman Ray, as Anthony Goldstein, was lynched.
You are Anthony Goldstein. Your parents sent you to Hogwarts to educate you into a proper wizard but it turns out you are a Squib.

On October 20 2013 05:03 You-Know-Who wrote:
I-Be-Pro as Gregory Goyle was sent to St. Mungos!
You are Gregory Goyle. Your parents sent you to Hogwarts to educate you into a proper wizard but it turns out you are a Squib.

You and Crabbe are BFFs and therefore inseparable. If one of you dies, the other dies as well.


EchelonTee as Vincent Crabbe was sent to St. Mungos!
You are Vincent Crabbe. Being a beater of the Slytherin Quidditch team you are able to knock someone out with a Bludger. Your target will be hit for 0.5 KP. You have four Bludgers. Type ##Bludger: XY in the game to hit someone during day and PM the host with ##Bludger: XY to hit someone at night. You may hit two bludgers per cycle but only one per day and one per night at most.

Also, you and Goyle are BFFs and therefore inseparable. If one of you dies, the other dies as well.[/n]


(1) I expect Grack (if squib) to have an identical PM to the other 3 squibs (minus the blue component)
(2) As Syllo suggested, the blue (lovers bit) can be easily explained via Echelon Tea being the conjurer.
(3) The consistency of the Squib role PMs, highly suggest it is unlikely that a vote power is included.

[B]On October 23 2013 05:02 You-Know-Who wrote:
Polyjuice Potion- ... By forcing the drink onto a fellow student, you may transform him into a Squib. For one cycle, he will lose any magical powers he previously had. If he was town, he will turn into a Vanilla Townie. If he was mafia, he will turn into a Mafia Goon. To use the item, type ##Polyjuice in the QT.


Lastly,
If I was town and in your situation. I would be furious that people are trying to vote me off for something like this.
(The same could be said if scum too though, especially if playing a great game)
The thing is, as town, I would also be doing my best to answer the questions (respectfully) and then forcefully push should be lynched in my stead.
Your not doing this. Yes, you have your scum reads out in the open; but your approaching the game as if you are following a check-list - AND that is pretty scummy.

I am not sensing conviction: all you keep doing is purporting that XYZ is scum (and maybe you are bussing and they are scum); but I can't follow how you got there, because you are not providing any of that reasoning - AGAIN, that is pretty scummy.

A perfect example is Skanjab: he has not been a person of interest to you prior, and now suddenly he is in your final three. You also tried to phrase it NOT as an OMGUS, suggesting that before he voted you, you considered Skanjab scum. Maybe its in your filter, but I do not recall you trying to ascertain his alignment over people like Onegu etc.


Overall, if your power is true - it is of great risk of town or scum (as you are worth two of either alignment).
With a breakdown of 7-3; if we mislynch and assume 1 NK. We are down to 5-3.

If you are town, it is effectively 6-3.
If you are scum, it is effectively 5-4.

5-4 is a massive risk, as even now, town is not confident on how the 5 town is. That mislynch will seal the game (pending NKs).
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 30 2013 00:38 GMT
#4984
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 30 2013 00:41 GMT
#4985
On October 18 2013 03:00 supersoft wrote:
one question are you a squib?
On October 18 2013 03:04 Grackaroni wrote:
what a dumb question lol.[/QUOTE]The squib comment was addressed to me (with the SAM claim).

Considering you purport to be a squib; why is this a dumb question?

If anything, being a squib, I would not have expected you to role play as hard early-game as well.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 30 2013 00:41 GMT
#4986
EBWOP
On October 18 2013 03:00 supersoft wrote:
one question are you a squib?
On October 18 2013 03:04 Grackaroni wrote:
what a dumb question lol.
The squib comment was addressed to me (with the SAM claim).

Considering you purport to be a squib; why is this a dumb question?

If anything, being a squib, I would not have expected you to role play as hard early-game as well.[/QUOTE]
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2013 00:47 GMT
#4987
I've already answered that question. I guess you are right. None of the other Pm's have Any different flavor. It's pretty unlikely he is a squib and then at the end it says btw you have a secret vote.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2013 00:55 GMT
#4988
Yeah I'll kill HF lol
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 30 2013 00:55 GMT
#4989
On October 30 2013 09:47 Grackaroni wrote:
I've already answered that question.


I 'spose you are referring to:
On October 23 2013 01:18 Onegu wrote:
This post here makes me think town, his first first thought was Im playing in a Harry Potter game of course im not a squib. It seems really genuine.
On October 23 2013 02:12 Grackaroni wrote:
I said that because I thought it was dumb that he was going to try to use role pms for his scumhunting.


Grack response is completely fair in the context of what SS did.

Onegu on the other hand looks terrible for this. Seems like a cheap way to extend a town read (similar to what Pandain was doing by calling you town for role playing --> yet conveniently not commenting on Skanjab).

As a "vet"; Onegu would not be a squib (nor have knowledge of what a squib role dictates in this game - could equally be mafia goon).. which makes it even more odd to give out a town read based on this inference.




One thing to consider is that this night, Syllo could be dead. If so, Onegu is free to use the magic carpet redirect.
If Onegu is not lynched this cycle (i.e. Holyflare goes through), it is probably wise to burn the magic carpet tonight.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 30 2013 00:57 GMT
#4990
You are quite categorically retarded, i literally linked the post where i came to the conclusion skan is one of the last scum or hopeless, you told me that he was fucking town. I told you in my long post when i went to hospital that i thought skan was scummy and gave reasons. Now he's literally jusy confirming himself. I'm not going to rehash his day 1 content again and again because you have already done it and it made me feel like my previous concerns were validated. I'm not going to get into an argument about roles all over again. My power says I am a squib and that I can use my persuasive charm once to bolster my vote. This has been said so many times that my brain will explode. Just read day 2. Why would i lie about this kind of power? If i was scum i woild just say vt and be done with it, yet i straight out claimed my power first in my qt. There was no need for me to do that. What use has it gotten me right now? I don't care if you don't like it but i have nothigtto hide. If you take issue with it take it up poat game when i flip town.

I am not going to yell or cry and make excuses about what you are doing other than call your play shit. Some guy posts nothing for 2 days and claims medic at the end of a day after a lot of pressure and doing nothing. His medic was put to the test last night. It quite clearly failed. Yet, that's not enough evidence for you?? His posts were nothing like town bh meta and then he's quite clearly forced into saying how hes demoralised, you wabt to know the really stupid part?? THAT YOU BELIEVE IT. Syllo claims that if sn0 gets shot that is like BH claiming mafia. Yet he has done nothing to follow up on that and quite clearly won't today. I'm tired of letting him past and I've been on this guy for like 3 straight days but when my suspicions come fo fruition and actually become really obvious to everyone they turn around and lynch me. Yeh great town you're with there.

Onegu has been a dark horse. His play isn't like his meta which I've semi properly read now, his play as been constantly tunneled upon me with inconsistencies. He thought the 2 people that I was pressuring hard;Bh abd mattchew were scum but that was how he initially derived a scum read on me? How does that make sense. He's fake pushed me all game and has come up with no evidence of why I am scum, he just states that I am and that he has read. Look at his votes? They follow thrwad sentiment all they way, never following his suspicions, never making cases on his scum reads, and then claims vet because after the entire thread has revealed, he has to right? Not to mention that they even shot him in the first place. I have no idea why people find that believable. Scum would not visit the house that contains the person with lumos in it to shoot a guy whose powers they don't know over 2 medics who couldn't heal each other and 2-3 town reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 30 2013 01:05 GMT
#4991
Right now i am 100% squib, nothing more nothing less. If hopeless' potion is correct in cop checking I do not mind drinking it to confirm. You can even use polyjuice potion if you want to waste it on me tomorrow. In either situation you post even if i was lying town has more votes. You have nothing to lose seeing as your only 'read' on me is my role.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 30 2013 01:10 GMT
#4992
On October 30 2013 09:57 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
You are quite categorically retarded, i literally linked the post where i came to the conclusion skan is one of the last scum or hopeless, you told me that he was fucking town. I told you in my long post when i went to hospital that i thought skan was scummy and gave reasons. Now he's literally jusy confirming himself. I'm not going to rehash his day 1 content again and again because you have already done it and it made me feel like my previous concerns were validated. I'm not going to get into an argument about roles all over again. My power says I am a squib and that I can use my persuasive charm once to bolster my vote. This has been said so many times that my brain will explode. Just read day 2. Why would i lie about this kind of power? If i was scum i woild just say vt and be done with it, yet i straight out claimed my power first in my qt. There was no need for me to do that. What use has it gotten me right now? I don't care if you don't like it but i have nothigtto hide. If you take issue with it take it up poat game when i flip town.

I am not going to yell or cry and make excuses about what you are doing other than call your play shit. Some guy posts nothing for 2 days and claims medic at the end of a day after a lot of pressure and doing nothing. His medic was put to the test last night. It quite clearly failed. Yet, that's not enough evidence for you?? His posts were nothing like town bh meta and then he's quite clearly forced into saying how hes demoralised, you wabt to know the really stupid part?? THAT YOU BELIEVE IT. Syllo claims that if sn0 gets shot that is like BH claiming mafia. Yet he has done nothing to follow up on that and quite clearly won't today. I'm tired of letting him past and I've been on this guy for like 3 straight days but when my suspicions come fo fruition and actually become really obvious to everyone they turn around and lynch me. Yeh great town you're with there.

Onegu has been a dark horse. His play isn't like his meta which I've semi properly read now, his play as been constantly tunneled upon me with inconsistencies. He thought the 2 people that I was pressuring hard;Bh abd mattchew were scum but that was how he initially derived a scum read on me? How does that make sense. He's fake pushed me all game and has come up with no evidence of why I am scum, he just states that I am and that he has read. Look at his votes? They follow thrwad sentiment all they way, never following his suspicions, never making cases on his scum reads, and then claims vet because after the entire thread has revealed, he has to right? Not to mention that they even shot him in the first place. I have no idea why people find that believable. Scum would not visit the house that contains the person with lumos in it to shoot a guy whose powers they don't know over 2 medics who couldn't heal each other and 2-3 town reads.
This post really pisses me off - because its precisely why I thought you were town. FFS.

Look, I am in a complete slump and playing terrible. Accept that.
Syllo doesn't give a shit and is playing terrible too. Accept that.
The thread is 250 pages long, and a lot of positions have changed halfway-through due to lying/new information etc. Accept that.

I can't keep up with every single post you make, and its not hard for you to go through your filter and paste the quotes I need to make an informed opinion.

Perfect example the convo with Grack above. He says he answered the question
when you ctrl+f "dumb question" his response doesnt serach, because the keyword is spoilered.



I am town, you know I am town. I am as confirmed as Syllo.
You also know I give a shit about this game, and am trying to solve it.

Pull the finger out and help me by *SHOWING* what you are talking about. Not just *STATING*.
Cos if you want to state stuff, you fall into the same boat as Onegu (who you are trying to lynch).
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 30 2013 01:14 GMT
#4993
I'm on my phone though it is really laborious to do all of that, I don't hide my answers in spoilers either. I only use spoilers when a case on someone or a quote is really long. Either way i quoted you yestrrday night saying how you were flip flopping on skanjabs, that was the post you called him town, in response to my post saying he was scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 30 2013 01:15 GMT
#4994
But still I'll make a case as best i can.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
October 30 2013 01:23 GMT
#4995
Hmm, syllo are you sure about this? I want to vote with my townreads but it really seems like the rolepm is the only strong point against holy at the moment. I don't know if I want to risk metagaming the hosts right now.
The "charm" explanation is at the very least possible somehow.
Apart from that Holy at least showed some investment in the game while BH, skanjabis, hopeless (and onegu to some extent) just don't give a fuck.
If you want my vote can you sum up your whole reasoning for a Holy lynch for me again?

Rayn really disappoints me btw. As soon as his lynch was off the table his announced great reread with scumreads was transformed into some underwhelming posting. Not that I did better but I didn't run around promising people to find scum. Maybe I will find a bit more time tomorrow.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
October 30 2013 01:25 GMT
#4996
I still don't get why hopeless calls himself confirmed but maybe that's just me
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2013 01:31 GMT
#4997
On October 30 2013 10:25 justanothertownie wrote:
I still don't get why hopeless calls himself confirmed but maybe that's just me

I think he's saying it's really unlikely that Mafia are given cop checks and once a potion is consumed it will tell the player checked that they have been checked.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 30 2013 01:31 GMT
#4998
On October 30 2013 10:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn really disappoints me btw. As soon as his lynch was off the table his announced great reread with scumreads was transformed into some underwhelming posting. Not that I did better but I didn't run around promising people to find scum. Maybe I will find a bit more time tomorrow.

Agree in full.

Its why I posted that in Noir; when scum Rayn joined a second game. He put in the bare minimum effort.
Seems like a repeat story here.

He does have a red check on him as well.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 30 2013 01:32 GMT
#4999
On October 30 2013 10:25 justanothertownie wrote:
I still don't get why hopeless calls himself confirmed but maybe that's just me

i'm not. but i damn near will be. in the meantime, skanjab or bh should be lynched. Skanjab is being the bigger jerk of the two, so thats where my vote is.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2013 01:37 GMT
#5000
I think the odds of hitting scum with this are pretty good. Considering that Toad has the same flavor as a lover as all of the other VT's I think it's far more likely that HF is mafia than him being a VT with different flavor or having an addendum saying that he also has a secret vote. I'm willing to take the risk.

I don't really feel bad about it if he is mafia either. He talked about ET using the word squib for town-cred and it backfired on him.
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