EPTOn October 28 2013 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
rayn. days ago you promised a reread of the whole game.
what is the outcome?
rayn. days ago you promised a reread of the whole game.
what is the outcome?
I didn't do it yet.
-rayn
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raynpelikonoshi
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I didn't do it yet. -rayn | ||
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Mocsta
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Well, you just earned my vote tomorrow. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
So from cr/skanjabs straight to rayn? Not sure i follow your train of thought, especially without a case. | ||
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Mocsta
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On October 28 2013 09:24 Holyflare wrote: So from cr/skanjabs straight to rayn? Not sure i follow your train of thought, especially without a case. Fair enough. More to follow shortly. | ||
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Mocsta
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On October 18 2013 14:20 Mattchew wrote: Ravenclaw: Onegu, <VET> Syllo <JOAT/I.C.> LastArgument - Mason Tunkeg - Rolecop Supersoft - VT Yamato - VT huffle: <Red Check - 1 scum> StorrZerg - Vampire JOAT, Palmar - Dayvig Mattchew - House Cop HolyFlare <Voter> Hopeless <Potions> Grack <VT> slytherin: Mocsta - JOAT EchelonTee - Day/Night vig/Lover blazinghand <Medic> I-Be-Pro - Lover sn0_man - <Medic> skanjabs1s <Unknown> Gryff: <Red Check - 2 scum (inc. Pandain)> Cephiro - Global Mason/Voter Pandain - JOAT VayneAuthority - VT raynpelikonoshi <Candy man> Stutters695 - Mason justanothertownie <Randomer> Unlike Rayn: I will commence my re-read of the game. FYI, I will be using the context above as I read. i.e. I am short cutting by assuming JAT and Sn0 and Syllo are town. Without a re-read: I am heavily leaning towards Onegu claiming the *truth* So my current hypothetis is: Rayn + Grack/Holyflare + (by PoE) Skanjab/Blazinghand. Will detail more after re-read. Some questions running in my mind pre re-read: (1) If BH is scum; and scum assume Sn0 protects BH. Why not shoot Sn0? A (BH scum) N2: I RB the shooter (BH), N3: Sn0 kept alive to give cover for BH (Onegu shot???) B (BH scum) N2: I RB the shooter (BH), N3: I RB the shooter (BH), Onegu decides to fake, his outted claim C (BH scum) N2: JAT shot (as invulnerable?), N3: Sn0 kept alive to give cover for BH (Onegu shot???) D (BH town) N2: JAT shot (as invulnerable?), N3: scum assume Sn0 protect BH and vice-versa (Onegu shot???) E (BH town) Scum want BH lynched, and can then shoot Sn0 with no fear? F <Random situation regarding role powers that we don't have enough information to guess> (2) IF Syllo was not innocent child, would I lynch him? Unfortunately I would give this very serious consideration. Every mislynch, Syllo keeps stating "ohh yeah, I had a town read on him" its getting annoying now. Either way, if Syllo *was* a scum role capable of having a false "innocent child" announcement, it would HAVE to be on a temporary basis. That Syllo is innocent child for so many cycles, he must be town. Perhaps we are not providing him enough support to solve the game? (3) Why did Hopeless1der want to ensure I could not target him with night actions? I do not understand this one bit; and if anything, makes me lean scummier on Hopeless1der by default. Everyone knows I am town, so what is his concern if used night actions on him... why not try and block scum using KP on him? (4) Powers seem unbalanced (From flips) VT: 4 Mason: 2 JOAT: 2 (1 town, 1 scum) - 1 town JOAT is uber (Vampire), where is counter? Cop: 2 (1 town house, 1 scum role) Voter: 2 (1 town with mason, 1 ???) Vig: 2 (1 town, 1 scum) Lover: 2 (1 town, 1 scum) Its all balanced so far (Using thread claims) VT: 4 + 1 (from Grack) Mason: 2 JOAT: 4 (1 town, 1 scum) + 2 town Cop: 2 (1 town house, 1 scum role) Voter: 2 (1 town with mason, 1 ???) Vig: 2 (1 town, 1 scum) Lover: 2 (1 town, 1 scum) Medic: 2 (1 town + ???) Vet: 1 (1 town) Weird: 3 (1 town + 2 ???) (JAT/ Rayn candy / Hopeless potion) Unknown: 1 Its not balanced anymore. 3 town JOATs is quite OP, so there has to be a scum counter measure. Gracks VT claim could make sense if Skanjab is a VT, but this is unknown. 2 Medics + Vet also appears unbalanced. (5) Why was Onegu shot? Who was safe: Mocsta, JAT, Syllo, (possibly Sn0/BH) Remaining pool of players to be shot: Grack, Rayn, Onegu, CR, Skanjab, Hopeless1der, Holyflare Rayn wouldnt be shot because of red check (whether town or scum) CR wouldnt be shot as was the next mislynch Holyflare is unlikely as is another mislynch option. Skanjab has been totally useless so is another mislynch option. Onegu was pretty useless but was not a mislynch option. Hopeless1der was pretty useless but was not a mislynch option. Grack seemed like the best shot. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On October 28 2013 05:51 Hopeless1der wrote: Holyflare did this ever come to fruition? In response to 5) Mocsta, shooting into the checked houses seems like it'd be bad for scum (i.e. shooting me or grack for example) In response to 3), we don't know how faction KP is assigned, and preventing one player in particular doesnt prevent the other two. I know your role is detrimental to me. However, in this line of reasoning I'd like to know whether Holyflare has an answer to the question he asked me: On October 27 2013 13:39 Holyflare wrote: Why would you give that to mocsta and not someone scummy? Because I don't know a player who is both scummy and has a role that can mess with me. | ||
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Grackaroni
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
Also BH is probably scum for doing nothing all game, getting roleblocked and no night kills. I dunno who the third one is, probably Mocsta himself for his stupid ass post that makes no sense. -rayn | ||
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Grackaroni
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Also you just got shutdown by the Blazinghand  | ||
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Blazinghand
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Mocsta
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He's cornered and hoping to scare me away with aggression tactics. Nuh nuh | ||
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Mocsta
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On October 28 2013 10:30 Hopeless1der wrote: In response to 5) Mocsta, shooting into the checked houses seems like it'd be bad for scum (i.e. shooting me or grack for example) In response to 3), we don't know how faction KP is assigned, and preventing one player in particular doesnt prevent the other two. I know your role is detrimental to me. However, in this line of reasoning I'd like to know whether Holyflare has an answer to the question he asked me: Because I don't know a player who is both scummy and has a role that can mess with me. The house check logic for 3 is valid. This means the pool of players to be shot was Onegu, skanjab and blszinghand. Bh is not an option due to medic protect and/or scum. Between skanjab and onegu. If both were town I would probably shoot onegu. | ||
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
I might post something today. -rayn | ||
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
-rayn | ||
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