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Maybe I will be able to be here for longer than I thought today... I am actually too sick to go to university.
So Cephiro, if Rayn was an unaware miller your check would have revealed that, yes? That leaves only 3 possibilities if the housecop is town:
1) You are scum or unaware miller.
2) One of RayKo/you was framed last night.
3) Hydra is scum and was framed N1.
I personally think 2) is very unlikely due to the fact that house hufflepuff knew/thought the housecop would check elsewhere. 3) is not very likely either. So I guess it is 1). -> We lynch you and if you are scum that's nice if you are Miller that's nice too because the rest of our house is confirmed.
Does anyone see a problem with this logic?
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This is really pointless, nothing he is saying is making sense. When did you "greencheck" rayn, on n1? Then presumably he is town even if he was framed on n2, so no need to ever lynch him. If you greenchecked him on n2, then he also can't be mafia because someone was supposedly framed.
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I do think there is a framer. I just want to make sure that if I get lynched it doesn't go to some random: "Oh fuck, Ceph was town, better start lynching someone like Skanjab1s" or something irrelevant. I guess it could be argued that JAT can be left off the list, an un-CCed vig can hardly be scum.
The codewords were meant as a way for everyone that had a coin from me to discuss certain things without others knowing, I was hoping to create a small circle of trust. (Which Mocsta again, did a great job of ruining.)
It wasn't like "I need to tell them what to do", but with a one-way secret message a day, why would not I convey my opinion of "what should be done"?
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Rayn I shot LM because I sheeped syllo and marv (who convinced me it wasn't town LM). Didn't even know SS wanted him dead. Wouldn't have mattered anyways because I didn't really have a townread on SS.
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I greenchecked rayn N1 as claimed multiple times. Which means that if he was framed N2, then he is town. If he was framed N1, then he is scum or an unaware miller.
(My copcheck still gives alignment and rolename, not the abilities of a role.)
Once I flip blue, you're lynching rayko. No questions or buts, you're going to make sure if he is scum that he won't get to fuck you up endgame.
On the off-chance that I flip an unaware miller (with a shitton of powers), lynch into hufflescum.
Also why do people think Mocsta is town...
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On October 24 2013 21:51 Cephiro wrote:
I do think there is a framer. I just want to make sure that if I get lynched it doesn't go to some random: "Oh fuck, Ceph was town, better start lynching someone like Skanjab1s" or something irrelevant. I guess it could be argued that JAT can be left off the list, an un-CCed vig can hardly be scum.
The codewords were meant as a way for everyone that had a coin from me to discuss certain things without others knowing, I was hoping to create a small circle of trust. (Which Mocsta again, did a great job of ruining.)
It wasn't like "I need to tell them what to do", but with a one-way secret message a day, why would not I convey my opinion of "what should be done"?
Yeah but you just said when you flip town "lynch into Gryff then lynch into Huffle" which makes no sense given that it will be confirmed there is a framer. Either i am scum and framed N1. Or i am town and scum framed someone in our house N2. Which makes it likely someone from Huffle was framed N1.
-rayn
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And of course you are only saying "lynch rayn 100%" and not giving any other reads because i will become confirmed town when you flip red. :p
-rayn
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On October 24 2013 21:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn I shot LM because I sheeped syllo and marv (who convinced me it wasn't town LM). Didn't even know SS wanted him dead. Wouldn't have mattered anyways because I didn't really have a townread on SS.
Yeah i looked at your filter and got it.
-rayn
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It's unfortunate that both Grack and Holyflare argued against this lynch today AND essentially also on day 1.
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On October 24 2013 22:03 syllogism wrote:
It's unfortunate that both Grack and Holyflare argued against this lynch today AND essentially also on day 1.
Did you take a look at my little talk with Grack last night?
-rayn
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I've been trying to avoid Grack's filter. I'll take a look after the flip.
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Okay, so since you've clearly decided to lynch me without even considering another option... *Insert insult here*
At least spend the time left in the day trying to find the real scum, or question me to get more information. There is no reason for anyone except scum to act like syllo ("I don't give a fuck until the flip"), which is extremely annoying since syllo is modconfirmed town.
So why do so many consider Mocsta town? Or why hasn't anyone been going on about how Holy later on claimed that his power is used secretly unlike he claimed before? When there are so many people that wanted to lynch ChRay, why aren't you pushing Holy further about this? Can hardly be because I'm a "better" target.
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@rayko: Just because my flip confirms a framer doesn't mean there isn't scum in hufflepuff or gryffindor.
Even with a framer existing, it could be that you're a scum role (Godfather), that shows green to checks, and that I was framed N2. I also find it extremely likely there is scum in hufflepuff. Onegu & Mocsta should be looked upon.
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On October 24 2013 22:12 Cephiro wrote:
Okay, so since you've clearly decided to lynch me without even considering another option... *Insert insult here*
At least spend the time left in the day trying to find the real scum, or question me to get more information. There is no reason for anyone except scum to act like syllo ("I don't give a fuck until the flip"), which is extremely annoying since syllo is modconfirmed town.
So why do so many consider Mocsta town? Or why hasn't anyone been going on about how Holy later on claimed that his power is used secretly unlike he claimed before? When there are so many people that wanted to lynch ChRay, why aren't you pushing Holy further about this? Can hardly be because I'm a "better" target.
You think Mocsta and Pandain have close to the exact same role and both are scum? Harry and Draco?
You think that scum Mocsta used RB on BH and the scumteam didn't hit syllo to frame either Hopeless or BH?
Mocsta is almost confirmed town to me because of those 2 things alone.
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The scumteam is really not going to let the invulnability potion go through on confirmed town. The RB on BH is the most fucked up thing Mocsta did this game, but the fact that syllo did not die makes Mocsta town.
With the information scum had killing BH was very logical, he was doc, he was BH and syllo was being docced. Mr. Snowman his night action have been superb.
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If you are so sure that the RB was the reason we have no night-kill, why aren't we lynching BH right now?
With all these claims I'm not sure about anything anymore. There's like a dozen of everything so no, the way Mocsta has played it wouldn't me surprise at all if he flipped scum.
If you are so sure about him, what about Onegu?
Onegu hasn't done anything worth mentioning, neither has he claimed anything, which is something everyone has been keen on all game. Yet people seem to totally ignore it.
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You are not reading what I say. And not reading the thread. Otherwise you would know Mocsta cant be scum.
There are 3 reason for no NK:
1) NK was used on BH the doc, but he got saved by Snowman the doc. (80%)
2) NK was used on Storrzerg or Mattchew the guy with 1,5 hp. (10%)
3) NK was RB because BH had to deliver it and got RB. (10%)
Mocsta is never ever scum. Because boh option 1 & 2 would not have happened if scum knew that BH was getting RB, because they would shoot syllo and frame BH and Hopeless. (BH for faking doc, hopeless because potion wont arrive). In option 3 Mocsta is a town hero.
So there is no way Mocsta is scum. It doesn't make any sense from NK perspective.
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On October 24 2013 21:13 Cephiro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2013 19:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
scummies:
Cephiro (PoE, Day 1, First claimed role that gets stronger after deaths, then does a rolecheck on me, then does another rolecheck on Mattchew?, I don't understand why he only rolechecked twice with his "powerful" role". .... We're in the third day of the game. Could you explain me how I could've rolechecked more than that? As for my breadcrumb about mattchew (Susan Bones)... The national flower of Finland is Lily of the Valley. Susan means Lily in Hebrew. I knew Mocsta was Draco because he said he's basically the town equivalent of Pandain, not too hard to figure out. If he even is town, that is. My full role has already been claimed, although in parts. I'm Hermione Granger. I have 6 charmed coins that I may give out at any point in the game. (Which I all have.) I may send a secret message to the players who are in possession of a coin once a day. I also have one initial copcheck (rolename and alignment). For each 2 players that die, I gain a new check. (First night three coin owners died -> I got a new check) That means I have 0.5 checks now -> I cannot action N3, I still haven't used my message for D3. If I am to be lynched today, you're lynching into gryffindor in the order rayko -> JAT. Stop once scum is hit, and if not, lynch all. Then you're going to lynch into hufflepuff until scum is hit. Holy -> Hope -> Grack is my preferred order. After that, Mocsta -> Onegu -> skanjab1s -> CH Ray If you for some reason deviate then wtf. Also Mocsta, what promises have I not kept upon?
Why is CR the last person you would want to lynch?
Yeah im back bitches.
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If syllo would have died tonight I would be screaming and kicking to lynch Mocsta. But now, it doesn't make any sense.
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last night*
Cephiro you agree?
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