And BH said don't let marv get away. Don't let him slither away, and no one listened. The game is over. I see why Oats was lynched now, because he's crazy. He would have lynched marv just for giggles.
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And BH said don't let marv get away. Don't let him slither away, and no one listened. The game is over. I see why Oats was lynched now, because he's crazy. He would have lynched marv just for giggles. | ||
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On October 10 2013 02:03 marvellosity wrote: if you don't do meta, why do you keep telling me how i play as town? when you are constantly wrong? Because meta is not something you don't use marv. I don't mean meta is bad when I say don't use meta in cases. Meta is bad in cases because other people should keep meta in their heads. If you share meta as a thought process and then use things to back it up that's ok. That's not what anyone ever does, though. They put meta as a central point of their argument, when really it's just a support point that led you to view the person as scum in the first place. It's what confirms initially and makes you look at the person. Then you find the things in that person's filter that are scummy | ||
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On October 10 2013 02:09 Holyflare wrote: Posted a while back, why not just reaaaddddd things and say that? This was all just discussed. And what happened with that HF? | ||
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He comes in, he makes his case, gets shouted down for it and says he's done with it all. That's town behavior I can sympathize with because everyone always does it to me. That combined with him not spamming. I think that's pro-town of him. What's the point of responding to you all? You all say he's scum and you're very clearly unwilling to move your votes off him, so fuck it, and fuck all of you. It makes perfect sense to me. | ||
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On October 10 2013 02:15 Holyflare wrote: You want me to tell you because you didn't read it or is that rhetorical "because it ended up useless" post waiting to happen? No, I'm saying what become of it. I'm pointing out to you that nothing became of it. What happened with it HF? Nothing happened with it. | ||
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On October 10 2013 02:17 Clarity_nl wrote: If we were all so certain we wouldnt have spent the last 10-20 pages talking about/to him. I mean the other part though, where everyone else but him is scummy today. I respond to that in the post you quoted. I'm assuming you mean why have all of you have played anti-town today? Look at the bolded. The only shame is that you can't all be scum for this, but it does make you all more scummy. And the fuck it part is me coming from his perspective. You've all just said ah fuck it lol he's scum just like you all conveniently did with sloosh. Game over! Let's circlejerk until the cows come home! But what if Dirk is town, have you guys stopped to consider that? HF did stop and do that, then just let it drop. That's pro-town of him to bring it up, but why would he drop it so easily? Simply looking at today and nowhere else I'd say HF is preparing for a marv lynch tomorrow where he can point to that post. But then, why are Clarity and marv part of the spamming? I need to look more in depth at who started the spam fest and who kept it going. I've been assuming it was marv, but maybe it wasn't. | ||
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On October 10 2013 02:27 marvellosity wrote: "you're all scummy for posting too much" is simply not acceptable. That's not the point I'm trying to make. Who is posting content in all these things? The vast majority of it is filler. The vast majority of all this is filler and you three talking things out that could easily be done in your head. So WHY is all this happening. WHY is all this filler happening. Why is someone posting today this much that could just be done in their head? To appear active, to appear as if they are contributing. That's why I'm saying you're all scummy from this, because you're all doing it, it isn't just one of you. And why am I the only one who is seeing this? | ||
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On October 10 2013 02:28 Clarity_nl wrote: Remember how certain you were about oats, risen? I do. + Show Spoiler + On October 08 2013 05:11 Risen wrote: I'm not the one who said it, why should I have been the one to check it? YOU are the one making claims based on bullshit in this trhead,. IM NOT THE ONE WHO HAS TO CHECKK YOUR SHIT FOR YOU, YOU ARE. HOW IS ANYONE THIS FUCKING BAD AT MAFIA. If you're town enjoy being on the list with Mocsta and Geript. If you're scum, get better. You're ass. You're so clearly scum I am shocked, SHOCKED you weren't lynched yesterday. It's a fucking TRAVESTY no one else got their shit together to lynch you yesterday,. I don't know how many people it's going to take saying "Damn Oats that's scummy" before everyone gets their shit together and lynches you. I'm going to have a fucking heart attack talking to you. It makes me want to break down and cry with anger that there exist people like you in this world. People who make it a goal to troll TL mafia games and ruin the enjoyment for other people. What trap?! Anyone who reads any response to a question like that is going to have to run the gambit of "But wouldn't that be something scum would say? But then no, they'd realize that and not say it." before coming to the conclusion that it's pure WIFOM, but the seed has already been placed. Your statement did it's job. It was a pure trap question. Good townies point out scummy shit. I see scummy shit and I point it out. You're trying to discredit me so no one else will listen to me. And slammed for pushing other people? I WANTED MARV LYNCHED LAST NIGHT BEFORE YOU CAME AND TROLLED THE SHIT OUT OF ME. I was even considering that maybe you're just a lemming that marv was riding. I came to the conclusion that maybe you were town and you liked to troll people. You liked to make them upset. You like to ruin their enjoyment of the game because that's what got you off at night. But no. No one is that rotten of a person on TL. If you Well I was wrong about Oats. I was wrong about Oats so I stepped back and looked at the game from the logical standpoint of who would do something like that. Dirk. I ignored how glaringly obvious the conclusion was and said that's WIFOM to get caught in something else. I didn't consider that, as HF and I have both pointed out, Oats had the potential to lynch marv, whereas the rest of us can't get it done. It's pretty clear I can't get it done. It's pretty clear you and HF both have town reads on marv. He can't shoot me, though, because then you guys might acually listen to me. Ignoring all the WIFOM that comes with shooting me, the clear thing to do would be to lynch Oats or marv. Everyone who goes down with the exception of Oats thus far has said make sure you fucking lynch marv because he will slither his way out of getting lynched. And I've already covered Oats. | ||
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On October 10 2013 02:29 Clarity_nl wrote: Like Risen, if you are town, reconsider. Is there a person in this game that you haven't called "SO FUCKING OBVIOUSLY SCUM"? You and HF. I'm going to step away from the game and eat. Then I'm going to go through the game from day 1 under the assumption that marv is town. I will assume ever single thing he has done has town motivation. If Mocsta be horrible town, then marv can to, right? I just haven't done so because it's marv and marv is supposed to be good. But this is exact;y what scum marv would want me to do but that's WIFOM. WIFOM should be ignored and I should play straightforwards without it. | ||
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On October 10 2013 02:36 marvellosity wrote: Only 3 townies have died, and only the one who died longest ago wanted to kill me Risen stop making shit up it's getting annoying Sloosh didn't want you dead? Really? | ||
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On October 10 2013 02:51 Dirkzor wrote: I was making some of the same arguments in my "trap" or whatever you want to call them. They didn't come from logic but from fear of being played. Now Risen is agreeing with me. Most likely means he is scum, where my vote is. But that gut fear is still there and Risen is hitting it just right. I'm agreeing with you? No. Don't try and fucking twist this. I'm the one who made everything on marv, you have simply sheeped ME. I'm the only one who has pressured marv through this entire game. Everyone else backs down. Don't try and make me look shitty here. Why are you trying to make me look like I'm the one doing the sheeping when it's you? I'm not playing with a fear of being played, I'm pointing out that all of you are being played, but you seem pretty sure that marv is town to me from this. You're hedging your bets with your "I'm down to lynch marv or Risen" hoping to catch someone that will mislynch with you. In a game of five people, if your vote is on marv here, a top scum read for you, that's 2 people. One of Clarity and HF has to move over. Clarity has expressed that he won't but he did the same thing with rayn. HF has expressed doubt with marv openly in thread. So it can't be that you are afraid of not being able to grab someone. Like, literally, why aren't you voting marv here? Is it because you know marv and I are town so you are trying to play us off each other? I'm town. I know I'm town, so you give me the option of marv and say you've created the marv train in the hopes that I will accept that. I created it, though. It's been slowly rolling since n1 and his bullshit with saying how my vote swap was suspicious when it was the farthest thing from suspicious possible. Like why does town marv think it's suspicious, I can't get over that, but it's the thing that's been holding me onto him this entire time. It's a strong only thing, though, like it's literally in my mind as town marv does not not see that. It's so glaring to me, but I know it's only glaring to me because I'm the only one who knows I'm town, so I have to find other things in his filter that are scummy but as far as I can tell it's only scummy the other things because I'm the one seeing it from my perspective. If I discount that then we have him making the same exact plays everyone else has been making and we have YOU. I also need to consider that a town Oats did the exact same thing as marv did. Marv can't even have sheeped onto it because marv was the first one to do it. I need to reread everything, but I'm moving my vote back to Dirk. ##unvote ##vote: Dirkzor | ||
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On October 10 2013 02:58 Dirkzor wrote: Okay. Risen is scum. Thats final. He agreed with me on marv. I had decided that meant scum. Nevermind, not even the both options route, just the well hopefully Risen gets the votes route. | ||
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On October 10 2013 05:31 marvellosity wrote: You look at the game of mafia as a whole very, very, very wrong if you think me being suspicious of you for moving your vote AWAY from me is a scummy thing. Why would a mafia player hammer at someone for making them look good? The reason I found it suspicious is because the Oats nightkill in no way looked enough to overturn your read on me, so it looked artificial. You can argue until you're blue in the face that it's logical, but it just isn't... You're misinterpreting what I said or misrepresenting it. I'm talking about what you did at the start of n1. I'm up to page 31. | ||
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