Bans for Russia Today Mafia

3 game ban for Rayn
-He has a history of flaming excessively
-Wishing someone to die irl is in no ways acceptable

There should probably be some action against geript for playing against his wincondition by posting a revealing post in the game although Palmar had not agreed to concede at that point of time. Since he was angry as fuck and I can relate to him a bit I am the wrong guy to set the scale of the measure against him. if you guys think it was fine, then whatever

Elvis! and WoS had legitimate reasons to replace out, when they did so I will not pursue any actions against them

geript

10024 Posts

December 02 2014 23:49 GMT

#1943

On December 03 2014 08:28 ShiaoPi wrote:
Bans for Russia Today Mafia

3 game ban for Rayn
-He has a history of flaming excessively
-Wishing someone to die irl is in no ways acceptable

There should probably be some action against geript for playing against his wincondition by posting a revealing post in the game although Palmar had not agreed to concede at that point of time. Since he was angry as fuck and I can relate to him a bit I am the wrong guy to set the scale of the measure against him. if you guys think it was fine, then whatever

Elvis! and WoS had legitimate reasons to replace out, when they did so I will not pursue any actions against them

You're right. I accidentally incriminated Palmer. I had tried to make sure that I wouldn't incriminate either. However, it also was in a situation where after my lynch the back to back lynches would've been Palmer and Sn0 in no particular order. However, Shiaopi decided to end the game early. Additionally, the host fucked up and used a setup that never in a million years should ever have been made and was labeled as a "Normal." Having a Watcher+Tracker+Doc vs Vig, RB, Framer is fucking heavily town favored. Perfect mafia play is required to win.

I went back and looked at Shiaopi's previous games: Golden Sun which had 4 recruiting non-town factions which essentially ensured that there was no possibility for town to win. Newbie XLVII which included: Doc, Cop, Vigi vs RB, Framer, goon. Basically, he has a huge history of heavily unbalanced setups favored in a variety of ways. Can whoever decides who hosts watch his setups more carefully as Shiaopi has no fucking clue what he's doing and is fucking ruining games by having heavily unbalanced setups.

ShiaoPi

TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts

December 02 2014 23:55 GMT

#1944

heh, not gonna host anymore so no need to make your case bro
also xlvii was approved by the balance team (/shrug) You also dont mention the golden sun mini was was eithout any issues but that does not matter much

Acrofales

Spain18355 Posts

December 02 2014 23:59 GMT

#1945

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

December 03 2014 00:48 GMT

#1946

On October 03 2014 17:49 Koshi wrote:
Easy rules for host:
9 player game = 3 misslynches to win. Might become 2 due to powerroles being missused by town, like vigi. Never 4. Obviously.
14 player game = 4 misslynches to win. Should become 3 if scum plays NK/powerroles perfectly by avoiding for example doc/vet.
Big games = 5 misslynches that might become 4 if there are enough modkills, due to behavior or afk. Never assume town will do everything perfect. Assume the opposite.

Replacements:
Never modkill for inactivity after N2. Never replace for inactivity. There is enough data to work with.
Never influence the game with your replacements. This is a hard thing to do.

Powerroles in normal games.

9 players:
1 powerrole for town. Doc/Veteran.

13/14 players:
1 doc/veteran/jailer to give town a 3rd misslynch without losing if successful.
1 investigation role for town to add some randomness to the game.
1 disruption role for scum to fuck with either of the 2 town powerroles. or both.

A vigi can be added to either side to balance the game in a 14 player game. A vigi for town means they have a weak save or investigation role. A vigi for scum means that town got strong powerroles.

20+ players:
Ask at least 2 capable players to check your set-up.
I have seen all gimped blue powerroles against red disruption work best if you want to make it heavy on powerroles. Parity cop, Jailer, Roleblocker, Veteran, Mason, Tracker, Watcher, Mad Hatter. Against Red Framer, RB, GF.

Nobody should heavily rely on town blue roles in a big normal game. Just stack enough Vigis on town and enough town cannon flodder in the set-up. 2 vigis that should hit town is standard. Not because they can't shoot scum, but because town in big games is inactive and scum should at least not be within the most inactive 2. or their comrades should move thread sentiment away.

DarthPunk

Australia10857 Posts

December 03 2014 05:21 GMT

#1947

Balance team called cell mini mafia a normal game if I recall correctly.

Balance team IMBA.

LMAO.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

December 03 2014 09:51 GMT

#1948

what would we do without DP's valuable contributions?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

December 03 2014 12:53 GMT

#1949

I don't really think geript should get any kind of a ban for ending the game. His punishment will be making a snide comment or two next time we play together. Also I might frown at him a bit and even call him bad a few times. That should put him in his place.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

December 03 2014 12:59 GMT

#1950

On December 03 2014 08:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
heh, not gonna host anymore so no need to make your case bro

Bitch pls, get your shit together.

Just think to yourself "what would Frodo do?". Frodo fucked up and put that ring on himself when he shouldn't. But did he run away like a bitch? No, he took his no-homo bro on an epic journey and wrecked Sauron's shit. When you fuck shit up, you come back and do it twice as well the next time.

....

pls don't go

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

December 03 2014 20:10 GMT

#1951

Agree with myself. bleh, i need a break.

In case what you said geript did is correct there definitely needs to be an action taken. I've been "robbed" to not play when i have wanted to play in a situation that was "unwinnable" or whatever shit. You do not ruin other people's games without consequences imo.

Also i am sorry ShiaoPi.