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Message GMarshal if you request a ban please ^_^

Also when the game you're sitting out is over!
~GMarshal
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 28 2014 13:49 GMT
#1941
On November 28 2014 19:53 marvellosity wrote:
2? Try 1 darling. You're essentially sitting out ShiaoPi's game and that should be enough

But I am hungry for blood Marv. bLOOD!!!! Down with the sinner!
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-02 23:33:41
December 02 2014 23:28 GMT
#1942
Bans for Russia Today Mafia

3 game ban for Rayn
-He has a history of flaming excessively
-Wishing someone to die irl is in no ways acceptable

There should probably be some action against geript for playing against his wincondition by posting a revealing post in the game although Palmar had not agreed to concede at that point of time. Since he was angry as fuck and I can relate to him a bit I am the wrong guy to set the scale of the measure against him. if you guys think it was fine, then whatever

Elvis! and WoS had legitimate reasons to replace out, when they did so I will not pursue any actions against them
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 02 2014 23:49 GMT
#1943
On December 03 2014 08:28 ShiaoPi wrote:
Bans for Russia Today Mafia

3 game ban for Rayn
-He has a history of flaming excessively
-Wishing someone to die irl is in no ways acceptable

There should probably be some action against geript for playing against his wincondition by posting a revealing post in the game although Palmar had not agreed to concede at that point of time. Since he was angry as fuck and I can relate to him a bit I am the wrong guy to set the scale of the measure against him. if you guys think it was fine, then whatever

Elvis! and WoS had legitimate reasons to replace out, when they did so I will not pursue any actions against them

You're right. I accidentally incriminated Palmer. I had tried to make sure that I wouldn't incriminate either. However, it also was in a situation where after my lynch the back to back lynches would've been Palmer and Sn0 in no particular order. However, Shiaopi decided to end the game early. Additionally, the host fucked up and used a setup that never in a million years should ever have been made and was labeled as a "Normal." Having a Watcher+Tracker+Doc vs Vig, RB, Framer is fucking heavily town favored. Perfect mafia play is required to win.

I went back and looked at Shiaopi's previous games: Golden Sun which had 4 recruiting non-town factions which essentially ensured that there was no possibility for town to win. Newbie XLVII which included: Doc, Cop, Vigi vs RB, Framer, goon. Basically, he has a huge history of heavily unbalanced setups favored in a variety of ways. Can whoever decides who hosts watch his setups more carefully as Shiaopi has no fucking clue what he's doing and is fucking ruining games by having heavily unbalanced setups.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-03 00:39:10
December 02 2014 23:55 GMT
#1944
heh, not gonna host anymore so no need to make your case bro
also xlvii was approved by the balance team (/shrug) You also dont mention the golden sun mini was was eithout any issues but that does not matter much
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
December 02 2014 23:59 GMT
#1945
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 03 2014 00:48 GMT
#1946
On October 03 2014 17:49 Koshi wrote:
Easy rules for host:
9 player game = 3 misslynches to win. Might become 2 due to powerroles being missused by town, like vigi. Never 4. Obviously.
14 player game = 4 misslynches to win. Should become 3 if scum plays NK/powerroles perfectly by avoiding for example doc/vet.
Big games = 5 misslynches that might become 4 if there are enough modkills, due to behavior or afk. Never assume town will do everything perfect. Assume the opposite.



Replacements:
Never modkill for inactivity after N2. Never replace for inactivity. There is enough data to work with.
Never influence the game with your replacements. This is a hard thing to do.

Powerroles in normal games.

9 players:
1 powerrole for town. Doc/Veteran.

13/14 players:
1 doc/veteran/jailer to give town a 3rd misslynch without losing if successful.
1 investigation role for town to add some randomness to the game.
1 disruption role for scum to fuck with either of the 2 town powerroles. or both.

A vigi can be added to either side to balance the game in a 14 player game. A vigi for town means they have a weak save or investigation role. A vigi for scum means that town got strong powerroles.

20+ players:
Ask at least 2 capable players to check your set-up.
I have seen all gimped blue powerroles against red disruption work best if you want to make it heavy on powerroles. Parity cop, Jailer, Roleblocker, Veteran, Mason, Tracker, Watcher, Mad Hatter. Against Red Framer, RB, GF.

Nobody should heavily rely on town blue roles in a big normal game. Just stack enough Vigis on town and enough town cannon flodder in the set-up. 2 vigis that should hit town is standard. Not because they can't shoot scum, but because town in big games is inactive and scum should at least not be within the most inactive 2. or their comrades should move thread sentiment away.
I had a good night of sleep.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
December 03 2014 05:21 GMT
#1947
Balance team called cell mini mafia a normal game if I recall correctly.

Balance team IMBA.

LMAO.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 03 2014 09:51 GMT
#1948
what would we do without DP's valuable contributions?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 03 2014 12:53 GMT
#1949
I don't really think geript should get any kind of a ban for ending the game. His punishment will be making a snide comment or two next time we play together. Also I might frown at him a bit and even call him bad a few times. That should put him in his place.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 03 2014 12:59 GMT
#1950
On December 03 2014 08:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
heh, not gonna host anymore so no need to make your case bro


Bitch pls, get your shit together.

Just think to yourself "what would Frodo do?". Frodo fucked up and put that ring on himself when he shouldn't. But did he run away like a bitch? No, he took his no-homo bro on an epic journey and wrecked Sauron's shit. When you fuck shit up, you come back and do it twice as well the next time.

....

pls don't go
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 03 2014 20:10 GMT
#1951
On December 03 2014 08:28 ShiaoPi wrote:
Bans for Russia Today Mafia

3 game ban for Rayn
-He has a history of flaming excessively
-Wishing someone to die irl is in no ways acceptable

There should probably be some action against geript for playing against his wincondition by posting a revealing post in the game although Palmar had not agreed to concede at that point of time. Since he was angry as fuck and I can relate to him a bit I am the wrong guy to set the scale of the measure against him. if you guys think it was fine, then whatever

Elvis! and WoS had legitimate reasons to replace out, when they did so I will not pursue any actions against them

Agree with myself. bleh, i need a break.

In case what you said geript did is correct there definitely needs to be an action taken. I've been "robbed" to not play when i have wanted to play in a situation that was "unwinnable" or whatever shit. You do not ruin other people's games without consequences imo.

Also i am sorry ShiaoPi.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 03 2014 22:17 GMT
#1952
i am never going to believe Waveofshadow had reasonable reasons to sub out on this game.
table for two on a tv tray
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 03 2014 23:03 GMT
#1953
On December 04 2014 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am never going to believe Waveofshadow had reasonable reasons to sub out on this game.

I 100% agree with this. I believe the Ban List should penalize him by forcing him to play the next 3 straight games.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 04 2014 11:51 GMT
#1954
I agree I totally went over the line saying somebody should kill himself irl

There were no reasons at all for somebody to be demotivated to play this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 04 2014 22:05 GMT
#1955
On December 03 2014 21:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 08:55 ShiaoPi wrote:
heh, not gonna host anymore so no need to make your case bro


Bitch pls, get your shit together.

Just think to yourself "what would Frodo do?". Frodo fucked up and put that ring on himself when he shouldn't. But did he run away like a bitch? No, he took his no-homo bro on an epic journey and wrecked Sauron's shit. When you fuck shit up, you come back and do it twice as well the next time.

....

pls don't go

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If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2014 22:18 GMT
#1956
On December 04 2014 20:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
I agree I totally went over the line saying somebody should kill himself irl

Show nested quote +
There were no reasons at all for somebody to be demotivated to play this game.

Your point being?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2014 22:20 GMT
#1957
/sitout TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells
table for two on a tv tray
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
December 10 2014 15:45 GMT
#1958
On December 03 2014 08:28 ShiaoPi wrote:
Bans for Russia Today Mafia

3 game ban for Rayn
-He has a history of flaming excessively
-Wishing someone to die irl is in no ways acceptable

There should probably be some action against geript for playing against his wincondition by posting a revealing post in the game although Palmar had not agreed to concede at that point of time. Since he was angry as fuck and I can relate to him a bit I am the wrong guy to set the scale of the measure against him. if you guys think it was fine, then whatever

Elvis! and WoS had legitimate reasons to replace out, when they did so I will not pursue any actions against them

Aprroved, sorry this took a while, its finals week for me.
Moderator
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 10 2014 17:30 GMT
#1959
Done sitting out at 6pm today (not that there are any games to join anyway.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 10 2014 17:48 GMT
#1960
yea there is
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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