Golden Sun: The Broken Seal Mini Mafia - Page 7

On September 16 2013 09:12 Koshi wrote:

Where did I say I was good?

On September 16 2013 09:14 Koshi wrote:
Ah w.e doesn't matter. I am totes town. We will see if you are a scummer or just terrible. Kinda funny that you started this game saying that you were bad at reading me and 50% of your scumhunting is saying I am scum.

PS: I am not
PSII: ^ this is not directed to you papa smurf



off to bed!

On September 17 2013 01:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Can you elaborate on this because in that game i was the only one who could succesfully push a lynch on mafia?

On September 17 2013 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
debears i have a tip for you.

When you play with me you will always find my play the same like it was here in D1. I nitpick on something i find important because there is nothing else to go with. At some point i usually am unable to see what's important and what's not. That's the point where i need some level headed guy totell me where i am going wrong and what should i look for. Usually it's someone like marv/Hapa/Palmar. In this game i think it would be you or Pandain. Look at the difference how you/Pandain called my case on SnB off. Pandain remained calm when i was trying to sell the case to him (i always do that because i am usually tunneled :/ ). You however didn't, you called me retarded and bad and refused to talk to me. I mean, in some level you are right, because i am an arrogant asshole on D1, i always am and i dunno how i can help it.

However, i am not bad at this shit. After D1 (and especially after N1) i take a complete re-look on the whole game. I look at who did what on D1. Who voted where and why. Who didn't give a fuck about things. When did certain things happen and why. I am far better player D2 -> than D1. For example in Desert i was pretty sure on D2 end that marv is scum because he should have been the one who would keep me "calm" on D1 when i tunneled Thrawn. When Thrawn proved his towniness on N2 i was 100% sure marv is scum. I am capable of finding mafia.

So please, if you are town, in this game (and future games), don't try to shut me down in case i go into stupid tunnel mode. I can be convinced with reasonable arguments. It might take time but it's possible. It's also beneficial because i am town and i am perfectly capable of finding mafia if someone (or me myself) push me into right direction or/and shuts down my bad arguments.

I also ask very weird questions sometime. Please people (if you are town), even if you think my questions are stupid, answer them, because i know what i am doing and it helps me figure out your alignment. I do very strange stuff. For example, in Bluelightz game i asked geript what he does think about his hydra partner's posts and if he thinks his hydra partner is scum. The answer he gave me was 100% town. That's how i roll. If you don't understand my questions, you can ask me afterwards about them. I am willingto explain what i was/am after.

Thanks for listening.

On September 17 2013 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vayne instead of calling people names and arguing about how good or bad they are could you tell us who you think is mafia so we can have a coherant discussion about yours/their alignment?

On September 17 2013 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So, first of all, what do you think of my read on Koshi? And do you still think Grack is scum based on what has happened since the last time you were here?

On September 17 2013 02:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
i wanna kill vayne now.
So many choices.
So little time.

On September 17 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

But he was not scum in Sicilian. He scumhunted with Vivax first, when Vivax died he scumhunted with me. Every scum we found Koshi shot. I could have totally figured out he was the SK but layabout's check fucked that all up. Could you compare to GoT if you got something to compare because comparing this game to his SK game is not a good comparison, SK needs to find scum too. In my opinion it points more towards him being town here than scum.

I agree that the fake claim was stupid. But as scum, why do it? To save debears (who is not scum according to you)? To save BH? I can't find any other reason for him doing so as scum.

On September 17 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Could you point out some direct quotes from SnB's filter where he is trying to solve the game (do not bring BH into this, it's a good place to hide in case SnB is scum and BH is not)?

On September 16 2013 05:31 strongandbig wrote:
here's something people can respond to while i keep reading.

why are we totally ignoring zealos, despite him being the Wagon of Justice yesterday? No one has said a single thing that convinces me away from my interpretation of the differences between how he's played this game and how he played in those other two town games i posted links to. He hasn't engaged with this game at all except to poke at me occasionally. I'm pretty mystified by how no one has even mentioned him since yesterday. I still think he's scum.

On September 13 2013 03:18 strongandbig wrote:
Hey guys

Posting from phone in class

Posting notes:
+ Show Spoiler +


Here's the thing with Ryan. He argues and gets in people's faces and posts a million times as either alignment. The biggest difference is when he's scum he argues about things that don't matter and don't move the town forward, but when he's town he actually pushes on points that are important. Just compare his scum filter from game of thrones and compare that to his town filter from aperture 2, the difference is obvious.

My first reaction is "this is scum Ryan". He's arguing a lot about old partners questions from early in the game but he's finding quibbles and there's no way what koshi thinks of those questions is remotely worth the amount of text Ryan puts in. Ditto for the arguing about whether grack could really have changed his mind for the reasons he said.

I'm not sure about rayne though. For me it's always hard to figure him out for sure because of how constantly interactive he is even as scum.

One other thing - I think panda in is scum. His post was that bad and opening posts are inportant. He had only easy scum opinions - lunch kush, lurkers bad - in that post. plus he has obviously bad reasoning on role names and bad justification for his town reads on me, va, and gk. like, what townie sees someone whose only comment on the main issues in the thread was "that's silly" and says "oh yes that guy is town, the whole thread really was a distraction." Plus I don't think vayne was moving the thread forward as much as shouting at people/being aggro, and it was really easy for me to click on papasmirf's profile button. None of those strike me as townie reasons for townreads.

Right now I want to lynch pandaman's. however, before I vote I want to reread the blurb case as well.

Anyway I have a problem set due tmo so I'm probably not gonna be voting until tomorrow morning.

On September 14 2013 05:18 strongandbig wrote:
yeah i dont want to lynch kush right now. he's not playing like he did when we were scum together. when he's scum he tends to lurk but he also tends to be pretty aggressive with calling other people scum for no reason, especially his teammates. here he's actually engaging people's points:









those are not the kind of posts i expect from scum kush. at the very least i dont want to lynch him yet.

On September 16 2013 06:45 strongandbig wrote:


town lost for reasons that had nothing to do with rayn in that game, he played fine. he didn't distract them by being a lynch prospect and he used his PR pretty well.


what does his alignment have to do with it? I'm saying he plays that way as both alignments and as both alignments it hurts town.

and it's not that i'm having trouble keeping up in this game, it's a mini and the speed is fine. it's that rayn jumps from one momentary interaction to the next so quickly that there's no time to analyze in depth and in context while keeping up with the thread.

there is no way his filter can have a coherent narrative if it's constantly posting about every little thing that happens, and townies' filters should have coherent narratives because that's how you establish that you're town, and that's how you persuade people to follow your reads, and that's how you make an environment where it's hard for scum to stay hidden.

but anyway we should probably argue about this post game because as we've both agreed, it has nothing to do with rayn's alignment. he plays this terrible spammy style as both town and scum.