EPTOn September 15 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man. Debears.
Are you ok with lynching Umansi?
Man. Debears.
Are you ok with lynching Umansi?
idk haven't taken a close look at him
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On September 15 2013 03:09 Koshi wrote: yay Join us in the lynch Zealos/Pandain/OP/SnB train tomorrow! I was thinking zealos as of now. Pandain is certainly possible, but I had him as my strongest town read until Grack pointed his vote out. I have to reexamine him | ||
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On September 15 2013 03:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Im confused why you didnt notice the vote before Grack pointed it out. I wasn't there at lynch. I just skimmed to the deathpost And looking back, if zealos is red, pandain is likely red and SnB is most likely town due to SnB's post at deadline On September 14 2013 06:57 strongandbig wrote: If he's blue why would you vig him. What happened to your conviction that the wagon on OP is wrong. On September 14 2013 06:56 Zealos wrote: I like how Pandain is making points to try and make a lynch happen. Then you get SnB: Look the the SnB qutoe inside the zealos quote | ||
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On September 15 2013 03:51 Grackaroni wrote: @Debears, What do you think about Vayne? I have a big reads post written up for the end of the night. I have a read on him but I need to double check it. There's stuff both ways on him. I don't really feel like posting any more of my reads til then. I just wanted to support your analysis so it doesn't get lost. It's good stuff (enough to completely get rid of my strong town read on Pandain). | ||
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On September 15 2013 04:08 strongandbig wrote: Also both of those explain the q, which bh's explanation doesn't. And it fits BH's profile where he has alot of SC stuff | ||
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golden sun team liquid oh my god the plays | ||
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On September 15 2013 05:59 Pandain wrote: The talking about whether OP is SK or Survivor is useless and doesn't affect us. There's no way to definitely tell the difference as they're both third party and have the same motives (survive at all costs), as well as help get rid of people who threaten them. I don't think there's much use in the speculation, I agree with vayne's analysis of leave him as a back-up lynch in case we're uncertain on who to lynch. As for me Furthermore anyone who thinks I'm scum ignores the fact that I have been suspicious of Zealos before and even posted this here. Also quote of mine: I was like the first one(I think, or at least significant one) to actually analyze Zealos and point out suspicious behaviors besides just generic "being useless." I had switched to Zealos(why even encourage that bandwagon in the first place if I never wanted him to be lynched, it easily could have gone out of my control if I was scum.) In fact, I hadn't realized OP had voted, and thought that he was going to be lynched instead of zealous. I would rather have had blubbers lynched instead of OP which is why I changed my vote. I don't know how I would have voted between blubbers and zealous. Zealos 2, OP 5 Zealos 3, OP 4 Zealos 4, OP 3 Zealos 5, OP 3 What is this, "I thought OP would be lynched bs". Zealos was leading op by 2 votes, same as blubb Furthermore you assume Zealos is scum which isn't certain. Even if he is, it wouldn't mean I would be scum. As I mentioned before, I had thought it was between OP and Blubbers and made sure my vote counted and chose blubbers. | ||
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On September 15 2013 05:59 Pandain wrote: The talking about whether OP is SK or Survivor is useless and doesn't affect us. There's no way to definitely tell the difference as they're both third party and have the same motives (survive at all costs), as well as help get rid of people who threaten them. I don't think there's much use in the speculation, I agree with vayne's analysis of leave him as a back-up lynch in case we're uncertain on who to lynch. As for me Furthermore anyone who thinks I'm scum ignores the fact that I have been suspicious of Zealos before and even posted this here. Also quote of mine: I was like the first one(I think, or at least significant one) to actually analyze Zealos and point out suspicious behaviors besides just generic "being useless." I had switched to Zealos(why even encourage that bandwagon in the first place if I never wanted him to be lynched, it easily could have gone out of my control if I was scum.) In fact, I hadn't realized OP had voted, and thought that he was going to be lynched instead of zealous. I would rather have had blubbers lynched instead of OP which is why I changed my vote. I don't know how I would have voted between blubbers and zealous. Furthermore you assume Zealos is scum which isn't certain. Even if he is, it wouldn't mean I would be scum. As I mentioned before, I had thought it was between OP and Blubbers and made sure my vote counted and chose blubbers. On September 14 2013 06:38 ShiaoPi wrote: Day 1 Votecount: strongandbig(0): VayneAuthority(0): WaveofShadow(0): Grackaroni(0): kushm4sta(4): Pandain(0): Old Partner(6): Koshi(0): blubbdavid(4): VayneAuthority, Zealos(1): raynpelikoneet(0): Currently Old Partner is set to be lynched! Remember, voting is mandatory! Next deadline: Deadline date: Friday, Sep 13 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) On September 14 2013 06:52 Grackaroni wrote: ##Unvote: Old Partner ##Vote: Zealos Zealos 2, OP 5 On September 14 2013 06:57 blubbdavid wrote: ##Unvote: Old Partner ##Vote: Zealos Zealos 3, OP 4 On September 14 2013 06:58 Pandain wrote: ##Unvote: Old PArtner ##Vote: Zealos Zealos 4, OP 3 On September 14 2013 06:59 Old Partner wrote: ##unvote ##vote zealos Zealos 5, OP 3 On September 14 2013 07:00 Pandain wrote: ##unvote ##vote blub Zealos 4, Blubb 5 What is this, "I thought OP would be lynched bs". Zealos was leading op by 2 votes, same as blubb Before OP's vote, zealos was still leading OP by a vote You are lying | ||
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On September 15 2013 06:22 Pandain wrote: Wow I wasn't even wrong So you are saying you didn't look at the votecount and voting thread at all? | ||
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1) We would have to assume you didn't look at the voting thread 2) We would have to assume you did look at the thread and can't do basic math Either of those would be extremely unlikely for town to do The actual count at the time of your zealos vote was Zealos - 5 OP- 4 Blubb - 4 | ||
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On September 15 2013 06:26 Pandain wrote: No I did, I based what I thought was the score based on what I that was there. Which is that we needed someone else to vote zealos or else OP was going to be lynched anyway, who I didn't think was scum. You are over-thinking things. How did you come up with an entirely different votecount as me? By looking at the incorrect votecount, I came up with zealos 5, OP 3 How did you come upwith OP having more votes than Zealos by the same process of addition and subtraction that I did? | ||
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On September 15 2013 06:29 Pandain wrote: So was I right or not in that disregarding OP's vote, who I didn't see because it literally came at the last second, OP was going to be lynched? And that only switching to blubbers would change to outcome? If you did the same process as I did, you would have thought OP was behind zealos by 2 votes. If you did math based on correcting the votecount yourself, you would have had OP behind zealos by 1 vote | ||
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On September 15 2013 06:31 Pandain wrote: I didn't see your vote. Note when I was like "well this was interesting" after I voted because I then saw your vote, which was amusing in more ways than one because you just suddenly appeared and also I didn't know exactly was the outcome then. Pandain please answer, how did you calculate your votecount? | ||
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On September 15 2013 06:35 Pandain wrote: It wasn't really calculating, and my memory is hazy because it happened last night and then someone woke me up at 4 am and really disrupted my memory of events before(basically something big happened), and I wasn't thinking I would have to defend myself. Basically here: I paniced, didn't think we would get votes for OP. By my reasoning(which I forget how I did because I didn't think it would matter), OP was going to be lynched. Given that I didn't think he was scum or that we would get another vote, I voted blubber who was more likely. So you didn't look at this votecount On September 14 2013 06:38 ShiaoPi wrote: Day 1 Votecount: strongandbig(0): VayneAuthority(0): WaveofShadow(0): Grackaroni(0): kushm4sta(4): Pandain(0): Old Partner(6): Koshi(0): blubbdavid(4): VayneAuthority, Zealos(1): raynpelikoneet(0): Currently Old Partner is set to be lynched! Remember, voting is mandatory! Next deadline: Deadline date: Friday, Sep 13 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) and then use addition and subtraction for the next three vote switches? | ||
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On September 15 2013 06:37 Papa_Smurf wrote: So you didn't look at this votecount and then use addition and subtraction for the next three vote switches? | ||
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Vayne Things I don't like strong town read SnB early game and hard defend Lack of activity close to lynch Goes "vote blubb" ---> won't keep my vote on blubb ---> keeps vote on blubb Things I do like The "aha" moment when he realized I was debears>>>>>>oh shit "I got you cornered scum" reaction because you just played with me Overall read: Slight Town Grackaroni Things I don't like inactivity near lynch Things I like His general thought process this game (we've been on the same page) His analysis on Pandain in terms of voting zealos Overall: Town, my strongest town read Pandain Things I don't like That vote on blubb over zealos Things I like His overall logic and approach to the game Overall: Null leaning slightly scum. The blubb vote was sooooo weird. I would be voting him if I didn't have a strong town read on him before that. If zealos is scum, Panda is likely scum Raynp Things I don't like How emotional and dickish he got on the second half of d1 (see him badgering me on the kush case, just how much of an ass he was to everyone in general that didn't agree with his SnB read) How much he was unwilling to budge in his reasoning How he just gave up on his "sure scum read" in SnB, despite how convinced he was. Things I like Not really anything Overall: Null. I have thought he is scum in both games I played with. His town meta is scummy as shit. Don't push him d2. Look at his voting and voting reasoning for best read. His overly emotional play this game IS quite different from his town games if I'm correct, but I'll have to double check. Zealos Things I don't like Everything about him Pandain not voting him when Pandain said he's scum Things I like Nothing Overall: Kill it with fire status BH Things I don't like He switched his vote when he was actually safe if he didn't He still seems unwilling to help town (which means he thing mafia will win, or he is mafia) Things I like Just BH in general :D Overall: I'm willing to believe his claim for now. I don't really want to lynch him d2. I think his true alignment will be clarified through nk analysis and such SnB Things I don't like His general inactivity after the start Things I like His posting near deadline on zealos and against pandain not voting zealos Overall: Slight town. The reasoning for his lynch earlier seemed pretty poor at best and the wagon came out of nowhere from Ryanp and Koshi Kush Things I don't like Everything How everyone soft defends him "he'll become readable" when he has shown he will not read or post reads and based off on good town game Things I like Nothing Overall: Kill it with fire. God I hope he gets vigged. Umasi Overall: No idea. Probably won't care until d3 (if i even make it there o.O) Oats Overall: Reading this dude based on his posting doesn't really happen for me. Need dat votes analysis. WoS Things I don't like Him saying "I won't be here friday and saturday" ----> proceeds to lurk most of d1. Only kind of read is on grack the whole time His reasoning on Grack seemed ultimately flawed Things I like Nothing Overall: Slight scum. I wouldn't argue against his lynch. Koshi Things I don't like He seems to be flipflopping (like he said I was 4th on his scumlist before lynch then suddenly he keeps asking me to join a zealos/op/pand/someone else voting wagon. That doesn't make sense). His agreement and hard defense of Raynp's SnB read His association between me and Blubb (the reasoning was god awful) Things I like His early posting Overall: Null leaning scum. Need to really take a close look at him to sure up the read. sn0 Things I don't like He's flown way under the radar since the beginning of the game How sure he is that I'm town Things I like Nothing pops out Overall: Null leaning scum. Pressure him if I'm not alive | ||
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