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On September 14 2013 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, had a cigarrette and clamed down.
I promised myself i will not vote for townies this game. I do not know if blubbers is scum. I do not know if OP is scum. I don't think kush is scum. I however know SnB is scum.
##Unvote:
##Vote: StrongandBig
He says i am very hard to read, which is a lie. There is no reason to make such a lie as town. There is no way he has "forgotten" how easy i was as a read on him in Aperture 2. I have proven that with quotes from him post game Aperture.
Therefore SnB is mafia.
You are very hard to read, from what I have read of your posts and other posts from other games, you are aggressive as both alignments and also you actually can make the thread hard to read through your constant, often ill-reasoned spam reminicient of my own play years back.
You are going to be wrong on SnB, your reasoning is inherently flawed and based on meta thinking and omgus, and you need to have a fresh perspective that doesn't inherently judge things you disagree with as scum.
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On September 14 2013 04:16 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, had a cigarrette and clamed down.
I promised myself i will not vote for townies this game. I do not know if blubbers is scum. I do not know if OP is scum. I don't think kush is scum. I however know SnB is scum.
##Unvote:
##Vote: StrongandBig
He says i am very hard to read, which is a lie. There is no reason to make such a lie as town. There is no way he has "forgotten" how easy i was as a read on him in Aperture 2. I have proven that with quotes from him post game Aperture.
Therefore SnB is mafia. You are very hard to read, from what I have read of your posts and other posts from other games, you are aggressive as both alignments and also you actually can make the thread hard to read through your constant, often ill-reasoned spam reminicient of my own play years back. You are going to be wrong on SnB, your reasoning is inherently flawed and based on meta thinking and omgus, and you need to have a fresh perspective that doesn't inherently judge things you disagree with as scum.
No Pandain. I PROVED!!!!! SEE THE WROD!!! PROVED!! SnB is lying about how hard i am read for him.
This has nothing to do with if i am hard for read to you , or anyone else. I proved SnB is lying and he has no town!motivation in lying like he did.
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Pandain. Look at my post on blubv right before I vote him. Then looka at his reaction and case on zealos
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Where was this pandain yesterday? o.O
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I am reading the thread as we speak, do not worry.
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debears is also mafia because he refuses to comment on my case on SnB. He knows i am right.
He is not defending SnB, he is attacking someone else instead. He also said some time ago that's exactly what mafia does.
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On September 14 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
debears is also mafia because he refuses to comment on my case on SnB. He knows i am right.
He is not defending SnB, he is attacking someone else instead. He also said some time ago that's exactly what mafia does.
Lol the fact that you are completely ignoring what I said when I argued with you is out of control
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On September 14 2013 04:24 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
debears is also mafia because he refuses to comment on my case on SnB. He knows i am right.
He is not defending SnB, he is attacking someone else instead. He also said some time ago that's exactly what mafia does. Lol the fact that you are completely ignoring what I said when I argued with you is out of control
No, that was only about the timing.
Do you think SnB has motivation to lie as he did as town?
Also, having played with me in Desert. Me, as town, when i get into the bad tunnel mode (which usually happens) am i then "pushing the town forward"?
Can you answer those questions?
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On September 14 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
debears is also mafia because he refuses to comment on my case on SnB. He knows i am right.
He is not defending SnB, he is attacking someone else instead. He also said some time ago that's exactly what mafia does.
This is absolutely horrible reasoning, first you cannot know anyone is right or anything is scum day one, and from what I've read before (I believe) SnB posts again, your reasoning is way mis-tuned.
You say he reads you differently than in Aperture, I don't see how that's a problem at all or warrants you calling him scum. I fail to see how you make the generalization:
1.He's lying (could have easily changed/different perspectives in different contexts)
And then to add to that:
2. You're confident enough in your generalization that he is even >10% scum.
I'm going to stop addressing you now until I make my post.
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I'm not sure about rayne though. For me it's always hard to figure him out for sure because of how constantly interactive he is even as scum.
Aperture mafia FIRST POST!
One last thing - Ryan is town. Scum I'm giving you this townread for free to help direct your night kills plz kill him.
Aperture mafia POST GAME (no reason to lie)!
Rayn you were obvy town to anyone who played with you in our previous game.
If this is not a straight out lie i do not know what this is. There is no possible town!motivation for the lie.
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On September 13 2013 08:06 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 13 2013 07:57 Papa_Smurf wrote:On September 13 2013 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The post looks fucking good in filter because it describes my meta pretty well. It sounds good.
However, what's wrong in that post is:
1) it is not a read on me, it says "rayn is scum or is not", what's the point of that post?
2) the timing, people (you, sno, Koshi, etc) were discussing lynching me (serious or not). He pops in with a comment that says "yeah, rayn is hard to read, this stuff is odd", gives no definite stance on me, gives no real read on me. I know this shit. If i was a bad mafia player and got lynched today SnB would be the influence behind the lynch and nobody would ever be able to track that lynch back to him. I know this shit, that's what i do as scum. It's sneaky as fuck.
3) No explanation when asked, hit-and-run post, people forget those if it gains no momentum. 1) It's insight on you. Close enough. 2) Why wouldn't come up when people are discussing you? That's the best time to bring something up, especially when you say it accurately describes your meta. Also, when did I ever say "I'm lynching ryanp". It never happened, and you are making shit up. Criticizing someone is what you do when you think they are town. Calling them scum is something you do when you think they are scum. 3) And maybe he might be busy. I don't see how it's a "hit and run", when he doesn't sya "omg raynp is scum" and you say his description of you meta is accurate What's the point of bringing up my meta? Nobody even asked about it.. Does it prove something? Yeah, it's okay to come up and give insight when someone is being discussed. If the insight however is "I dunno how to read this guy (with 100 words)" WHAT'S THE POINT? I'm done arguing with you. You have hit my ignore list for this game. If you can't see why a meta read is important to bring up when you are a subject of discussion (and you think ppl are trying to lynch you), then it is hopeless to beat it out of you, especially when it's an accurate meta read according to you.
You lost any credibility you had with me when you refused to budge one bit on your reasoning and badgering me about the kush case. Your play is horrendously antitown
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On September 14 2013 04:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +I'm not sure about rayne though. For me it's always hard to figure him out for sure because of how constantly interactive he is even as scum. Aperture mafia FIRST POST!Show nested quote +One last thing - Ryan is town. Scum I'm giving you this townread for free to help direct your night kills plz kill him. Aperture mafia POST GAME (no reason to lie)!If this is not a straight out lie i do not know what this is. There is no possible town!motivation for the lie.
just jumping in
if I read you instantly as town in aperture
and I can't read you as town here
maybe taht indicates you are scum?
(the hard part of reading you was when you were scum in got. it took me a while to figure it out. but if you're saying I'm "lying" because I got a good townread on you quickly last game, then that's bullshit. Determining when you're scum is hard.)
on page 38 atm
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Honestly I think we should lynch rayn. he's been stirring up shit and misinterpreting other people's arguments all game long, and using his badgering and activity to get away with not actually actively working towards the town's good.
##vote: raynpelikoneet
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wos, that's specifically the thing, people being like 'well sure blubs' feels kinda bad.
##unvote
not sure who I want instead of blubs though :|
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On September 14 2013 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So SnB must be town because it's me and Koshi voting for him.. This seems really fishy and it's nto a reason why my case is bad. lol. 1) never said your case is bad. 2) Never said SnB is town because you two are voting for him. 3) You start calling people scum when they disagree with you (ie dibbers/OP) How do you expect people to play this game when you attempt to pre-emptively shut down any contribution they make? This is exactly how you got me mislynched in Persona so i suggest you check your play, Rayn. Although I'm pretty sure this kind of play makes you town---I think it'd be really impressive if you could reproduce this play as scum. (On that note, in Rayn's recent scumgame, did he play this way? Does anyone know?)Now if you calm your tits, I'll get to SnB.
he did
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On September 14 2013 04:44 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 14 2013 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So SnB must be town because it's me and Koshi voting for him.. This seems really fishy and it's nto a reason why my case is bad. lol. 1) never said your case is bad. 2) Never said SnB is town because you two are voting for him. 3) You start calling people scum when they disagree with you (ie dibbers/OP) How do you expect people to play this game when you attempt to pre-emptively shut down any contribution they make? This is exactly how you got me mislynched in Persona so i suggest you check your play, Rayn. Although I'm pretty sure this kind of play makes you town---I think it'd be really impressive if you could reproduce this play as scum. (On that note, in Rayn's recent scumgame, did he play this way? Does anyone know?)Now if you calm your tits, I'll get to SnB. he did
That's another lie.
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idk. just doesn't sit right with me.
specifically don't want to lynch SAB.
kush, who are you voting for? you apparently think Goodkarma/Umasi is scum, but I don't know why, and I don't know why you aren't pushing this read.
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TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
Day 1 Votecount:
strongandbig(3): Koshi, Papa_Smurf, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Zealos, blubbdavid, raynpelikoneet
VayneAuthority(0): Papa_Smurf
WaveofShadow(1): kushm4sta
Grackaroni(0): WaveofShadow
kushm4sta(2): Papa_Smurf, Pandain, Old Partner
Pandain(0): Grackaroni
Old Partner(3): raynpelikoneet Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, blubbdavid
Koshi(0): blubbdavid
blubbdavid(3): VayneAuthority, Grackaroni, Sn0_man, Umasi, Papa_Smurf, raynpelikoneet
Zealos(0): blubbdavid
raynpelikoneet(1): strongandbig
Currently, blubbdavid is set to be lynched (hit 3 first) ! Remember, voting is mandatory!
Not Voting: Umasi, WaveofShadow
Next deadline:
Deadline date: Friday, Sep 13 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
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^ WoS also not voting it seems.
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Also. I am certain that Kush is not scum.
Please remove votes from him. Pandain? Old Partner?
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EPT
