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On September 14 2013 03:29 blubbdavid wrote:
Oh look who is back.
Mr Idontanalyseorreadanythingbutblubbersisscumcuzjustbecause.
You will stand there like an idiot after I flip town I assure you.
@VA, what is your opinion on the case of OP.
I think its a solid case. If he doesn't stop just giving a recap of the game, lynch him. It's annoying to read and doesn't help town.
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I forgot about Sn0.
Shit I don't think i have time to do an in-depth read but he is all over the place as I skim through his filter.
No in-depth analysis, pushing random-ass targets, trolly....
Thoughts, gentlemen?
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On September 14 2013 03:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
I forgot about Sn0.
Shit I don't think i have time to do an in-depth read but he is all over the place as I skim through his filter.
No in-depth analysis, pushing random-ass targets, trolly....
Thoughts, gentlemen?
I wouldn't expect him to be so angry/trollin' if he was scum but I guess that's a stupid reason. Switching the vote to him last second would be an awful choice though imo.
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Okay Vayne, you clearly don't recognize some basic scumtells.. :/
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On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:
What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."
Would that be perfectly fine? yes because it makes very little difference in the game... If instead this happened 1: you voting for oats bro? rayn: yea for sure. .... never votes for oats... .. then there is a problem.
Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol.
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On September 14 2013 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay Vayne, you clearly don't recognize some basic scumtells.. :/
you just played with me in sicilian, and I scrutinize all my partners posts very carefully. Please read over SnB in sicilian and compare it to this, then compare it to aperture where he is town. The difference is obvious.
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On September 14 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:
What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."
Would that be perfectly fine? yes because it makes very little difference in the game... If instead this happened 1: you voting for oats bro? rayn: yea for sure. .... never votes for oats... .. then there is a problem. Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol.
ok so you agree at that best this is a 50% lynch? well I don't want to flip a coin. I want to lynch scum.
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On September 14 2013 01:57 Koshi wrote:
PS: because VA has a good % on initial reads.
But my own reads say SnB better than blubbers.
Nobody is saving this blubbers guy or at least try to defend him. Or something.
This is terrible reasoning. If blubb was scum, scum wouldnt hard defend him, they would try to convince town someome rlse is scummier. Mafia 101 plz
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kush almost looks like a decent lynch after this, notice how he had a small wagon and now it is formed into an SnB vs blubb wagon. who's hiding until the dust settles?
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On September 14 2013 03:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
I forgot about Sn0.
Shit I don't think i have time to do an in-depth read but he is all over the place as I skim through his filter.
No in-depth analysis, pushing random-ass targets, trolly....
Thoughts, gentlemen?
I recommend reading, its a good habit. I'll give you I'm somewhat inflammatory this game but I have reasons. My targets are distinctly not random tho and I'd appreciate it if u didn't slander me like that for no reason.
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debears can you finally comment on what i brought up on SnB? You have avoided that for a pretty long time.
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On September 14 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:
What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."
Would that be perfectly fine? yes because it makes very little difference in the game... If instead this happened 1: you voting for oats bro? rayn: yea for sure. .... never votes for oats... .. then there is a problem. Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol. ok so you agree at that best this is a 50% lynch? well I don't want to flip a coin. I want to lynch scum.
Yes as I've said I think we've been on the same page for much of this game, hence me asking you what you think I should do before disappearing.
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On September 14 2013 03:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:
What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."
Would that be perfectly fine? yes because it makes very little difference in the game... If instead this happened 1: you voting for oats bro? rayn: yea for sure. .... never votes for oats... .. then there is a problem. Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol. ok so you agree at that best this is a 50% lynch? well I don't want to flip a coin. I want to lynch scum. Yes as I've said I think we've been on the same page for much of this game, hence me asking you what you think I should do before disappearing.
Why the hell should Vayne decide for you on who to lynch? Don't you want to take responsibility of your actions?
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On September 14 2013 03:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:
What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."
Would that be perfectly fine? yes because it makes very little difference in the game... If instead this happened 1: you voting for oats bro? rayn: yea for sure. .... never votes for oats... .. then there is a problem. Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol. ok so you agree at that best this is a 50% lynch? well I don't want to flip a coin. I want to lynch scum. Yes as I've said I think we've been on the same page for much of this game, hence me asking you what you think I should do before disappearing.
that's weird as shit and you should never ask me that again lol
gonna have to play the game yourself for me to get a read on you
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What no VA kush is bad lynch jeez look at the scummy retards on his wagon. Its all the people too scared to scumhunt so they say shit like "plynch kush he bad" despite evidence to the contrary (p4)
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On September 14 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
What no VA kush is bad lynch jeez look at the scummy retards on his wagon. Its all the people too scared to scumhunt so they say shit like "plynch kush he bad" despite evidence to the contrary (p4)
why is he getting sweeped under the rug then? the contributions he promised never came and he disappeared off the radar suddenly for everyone after some soft defending. That's like the definition of scummy to me.
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For me rayn is town.
But at the same time I think he is wrong on SnB.
Look at this post in desert:
+ Show Spoiler +On August 31 2013 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Please read my case and pages 8-10 of the game: Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Tutankoopa says this:Rayn, this is a perfect example of how being spammy can be bad, even if you're asking OK questions. You really shouldn't expect people to give you every single reasoning behind their every line of questioning. When I asked those questions I had specific goals in mind, and it is counterproductive for you to ask me to talk about things that I'd rather the mafia team not hear. Even when the theory I'm working with doesn't pan out, I'm still going to want to keep my motives under warp a while longer. As soon as someone fully explains a question, that question and similar strategies lose their scumhunting potential for the rest of the game. You couldn't even wait for Hopeless to respond before you interrupted and started asking questions. However, we're long past that point in the game so I'll give you a full explanation. This is what happened in chronological order:On August 29 2013 09:06 Tutankoopa wrote:On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dont think scum could be as stupid as rayn 1 in this regard. Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep 2 onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats. 1. Can you clarify what you found to be stupid about rayn's play? 2. When you saw my vote, did you think I was seriously going to push for rayn's lynch on D1? Also, you say rayn's play is stupid yet you also claim to not understand the policy lynch. Explain? On August 29 2013 09:14 Hopeless1der wrote:On August 29 2013 09:06 Tutankoopa wrote:On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dont think scum could be as stupid as rayn 1 in this regard. Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep 2 onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats. 1. Can you clarify what you found to be stupid about rayn's play? 2. When you saw my vote, did you think I was seriously going to push for rayn's lynch on D1? Also, you say rayn's play is stupid yet you also claim to not understand the policy lynch. Explain? 1) Scum are more than capable of making Sn0's OP, which in and of itself is a stupid reason for rayn to come up with a town read. However, the part that I felt to be most stupid is that if Rayn is scum, he's revealed himself in all of 2 posts. 2) It doesn't matter what you were planning to do, I see your actions as scummy and I've voted accordingly. Your initial vote was not entirely damning. Dropping things off here + Show Spoiler +On August 29 2013 08:49 Tutankoopa wrote:
actually nvm rayn
##unvote just when you seemed to have gotten rolling does not strike me as town motivated. "Also") Was stupid the policy? Iuno... On August 29 2013 19:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Tutankoopa i would like you to explain a couple of things: On August 29 2013 09:06 Tutankoopa wrote:On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dont think scum could be as stupid as rayn 1 in this regard. Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep 2 onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats. 1. Can you clarify what you found to be stupid about rayn's play? 2. When you saw my vote, did you think I was seriously going to push for rayn's lynch on D1? Also, you say rayn's play is stupid yet you also claim to not understand the policy lynch. Explain? How does the bolded part make sense? If Hopeless did not understand the "policy", why is it wrong for him to call my play stupid? What did he need to explain? To me his thought process makes sense. On August 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:
Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.
My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted. What's your thought process between starting and finishing this post? Did you read Oats filter between writing the post? Why? In the start of the post you say something, then you say another thing at the end of it. Why would you not read the whole thread before posting so you are on top of things and not need to change your opinion in the same post? 10 hours. 10 hours after Hopeless has answered i ask him about his motives. In that time frame he has done nothing to follow that Hopeless thingy up.
Then he straight out lies of me not letting Hopeless answer first.
When i point out the lie he does this:On August 30 2013 23:36 Tutankoopa wrote:
I didn't follow it up because I didn't get the damming result I was fishing for so there was literally nothing to say. You also kinda interrupted whatever train of thought I might have had when you decided to press the smurfing issue. Which is WHAT HE HAS BEEN DOING ALL THE FUCKING GAME WHEN SOMEONE ASKS HIM SOMETHING. He does give fishy answers in the first place and gives totally different answers compared to his first one when asked to clarify.Tutankoopa is mafia!
Same aggressivity as here. But in the end it turns out that both the suspect and rayn are town.
The case on SnB is losing credibility to me.
Well, the following decision has nagged on me the whole evening, ever since Oats came in.
I will go all-in on OP.
##Vote: Old Partner
Now if I stand or fall entirely is up to you guys.
Don't trust Papa. And sno prolly town, albeit a bad one.
Taking a short walk with the dog, I have to get fresh air.
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On September 14 2013 03:40 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 03:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 14 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:
What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."
Would that be perfectly fine? yes because it makes very little difference in the game... If instead this happened 1: you voting for oats bro? rayn: yea for sure. .... never votes for oats... .. then there is a problem. Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol. ok so you agree at that best this is a 50% lynch? well I don't want to flip a coin. I want to lynch scum. Yes as I've said I think we've been on the same page for much of this game, hence me asking you what you think I should do before disappearing. that's weird as shit and you should never ask me that again lol gonna have to play the game yourself for me to get a read on you
Oh please. You and Rayn both need to calm your tits.
I've already explained that I'm gone very soon and if I don't come up with something on my own in the next hour or so I don't want my vote to go to waste. I trust you thus far therefore I am asking you opinion.
Is there a problem?
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On September 14 2013 03:44 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 03:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
What no VA kush is bad lynch jeez look at the scummy retards on his wagon. Its all the people too scared to scumhunt so they say shit like "plynch kush he bad" despite evidence to the contrary (p4) why is he getting sweeped under the rug then? the contributions he promised never came and he disappeared off the radar suddenly for everyone after some soft defending. That's like the definition of scummy to me.
Town kush has done this before.
LXI comes to mind.
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On September 14 2013 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 03:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 14 2013 03:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 14 2013 03:31 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 14 2013 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys, listen to me for one second:
What would you say if this kinda conversation happened:
someone: "what do you think of Oats?"
me: "hmm, i don't really know, Oats is really hard for me to read, i usually can't figure him out. I have no idea about his alignment."
Would that be perfectly fine? yes because it makes very little difference in the game... If instead this happened 1: you voting for oats bro? rayn: yea for sure. .... never votes for oats... .. then there is a problem. Vayne the problem is it is what amounts to a flat-out lie by SnB without him addressing it. I agree he is tunneling pretty hard on it but it's Rayn. As town I'm pretty sure he's lynched both town and scum in this way. As far as Rayn's Oats example goes I'd probably accept that lol. ok so you agree at that best this is a 50% lynch? well I don't want to flip a coin. I want to lynch scum. Yes as I've said I think we've been on the same page for much of this game, hence me asking you what you think I should do before disappearing. that's weird as shit and you should never ask me that again lol gonna have to play the game yourself for me to get a read on you Oh please. You and Rayn both need to calm your tits. I've already explained that I'm gone very soon and if I don't come up with something on my own in the next hour or so I don't want my vote to go to waste. I trust you thus far therefore I am asking you opinion. Is there a problem?
yea, if you aren't town me making your decisions does nothing to tell me anything. You should vote for blubb, OP, or kush though. Thats our best chance of finding scum I think right now. use your brain to vote for the one you want though.
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