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On September 19 2013 05:11 Pandain wrote: As I said I had class. If I had to guess, it would be Vayne for scum. It's a bunch of little things. + Show Spoiler + He voted Blub who we now know is town. It's alright, a whole bunch of others did too (and I chose him over BH). This post is suspicious: On September 12 2013 08:32 VayneAuthority wrote: this time im his town buddy bro also you were serial killer in that game so you were just leading on anything LOL @papasmurf it was just that game. he usually just fucks around as town but randomly started writing cases and shit in persona Assumes that kush is town at day one, weird assumption to make. Assumes they're both town? Covering? Slipped knowledge kush is town? A lot of possibilties, but most lead to a scum reason why. On September 14 2013 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote: im back, catching up now. saw the mislynch though =/ gotta look at the people that followed my wagon with little to no support. He was leading a wagon? Makes it seem like others are at fault and not him. There are more posts like this, it's not certain but its a guess. He also is playing similar to his town game in Titanic. I would say he's playing a good game of mafia, but mafia none the less. Don't understand why people say my posts make me pro-town and then when it happens I'm wrong(it's ok, it's mafia) people say I'm mafia. I did what I did because it made sense, and I explain it. I also think Kush is still a good choice, but think Zealos is the best choice. Sno can you explain why you think I'm scum? All I get from you is that I'm going after the "easiest" lynches. When you get back talk to me about this post. In this post you give reasons why Vayne is scum. I don't see how these things you point out make Vayne scum. In fact, you say later on that "Vayne played similarly in his town game Titanic". You say there is "other stuff like this". What's it? I still don't get why you think kush is scum. You have been wanting to policy lynch him on D1. After that he has stepped up his game, a lot. What makes him scum? | ||
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On September 19 2013 07:06 Papa_Smurf wrote: I'm around for an hour or so. Gotta type up my epic zealos is sk post I don't give a fuck about SK now. tbh if i want to lynch SK i want to lynch you over Zealos. You fit the profile far more than Zealos does. Why can't people understand? If we lynch town we probably lose the game. Zealos is not sure to be SK. Why the fuck is everyone i think is anti-town hunting for SK and not scum? It must be because they are anti-town! <3 | ||
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They are not questioning anyone, they are not making cases against scum. They are making cases against SK!Zealos. If Zealos flips town there is no fucking way town is going to win this game! just saying. this is fucked up. | ||
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On September 19 2013 07:16 Pandain wrote: I think Vayne is scum, but I gave an honest analsyis. He's playing similar(post style) to his town play in Titanic, but he has made suspicious votes. The "it" is suspicious posts. Kush was more than a policy lynch to me ever since he said he knew scum had fake claims. I didn't and still don't find it plausible that upon receiving your role you ask if you can claim, and then ask if scum can fake claim. It's a non-sequitur. I don't buy his excuse for it. Also his recent play has been poor analysis wise too, but that's not as important, as he could just be bad trying to push Grack as scum and then me as scum. What's suspicious in Vayne's voting? Compared to Grackaroni who agrees with his scumread to vote for a target that is pushed by his other scumread? Really, Vayne comes out more suspicious of that? Have you ever played with kush? Him asking if scum have fake claims does not necessarily make him scum. If he was scum why the hell would he be screaming it out in thread for nothing? Him making analysis makes him so town. This is like more analysis he has made in his last 5 town games. Who is to say he is wrong? Even if you are not scum, why can't Grackaroni/debears be? | ||
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On September 19 2013 07:30 Pandain wrote: I disagree with everything you say. First, you forget. It isn't really Vayne's vote but his posts which are suspicious. Voting blub, saying we need to look at people who followed him without reason, and then not following up with that. Bad reasoning on grack and me. It's not conclusive, and I never said I was which is why I have been changing my opinion of him. "Him making analysis makes him so town". That's what grack has been doing? Except better analysis? And he's been doing it for longer and more consistantly? You still also haven't addressed the fact that there is no smart reason for a scum to try and fake claim and bring attention to himself when everything is going well for him, in order to try and out a vet. Has there EVER been a play in mafia history which tried to out a vet? That is not even risky, it's just dumb. Vayne has been looking into people who followed him. Didn't you and Grack follow him for example? Okay so where has Grack found scum? What makes his analysis better? Yes there is and i have addressed it. I don't remember that kinda scenario. I can point out a lot of scenarios that are extremely rare but not impossible. Have you seen a scenario where a townie fakeclaims cop to lynch a mafioso and the real cop claims a green check on the fakeclaimant to convince him to lynch another mafioso? Then a third townie says "you are all dumb" and makes a case against a third mafioso, and because it is majority lynch it's possible that noone is gonna get lynched so a fourth townie fakeclaims a cop to lynch the first mafia guy. These things happen. | ||
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On September 19 2013 08:18 Papa_Smurf wrote: Then get on the zealos lynch. You can lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong I am going to look at this more closely tomorrow. I am fucking tired. At first glance you have some good points and some points that are not so good. | ||
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Other than that you are doing nothing. Even if you are town, with your play you are just +1 anti-town in this game.. | ||
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I also think, while looking really bad from D1 voting, Grackaroni and Pandain are necessarily not mafia. These are things that townie could do. I am really frustrated about the whole Umasi/Pandain/debears deal that's been going on since D2. Even if you are masoned you don't keep scumhunting in the mason QT. That serves no purpose for the town. Masons are supposed to bounce ideas between them and find out each other's alignment. I think it's odd that (reading from Umasi/Pandain convo D2) Pandain straight up assumes Umasi is town based on his role, mafia masoners are not uncommon. Pandain did jack shit on D2. debears has done jack shit on D3 besides making a SK case on Zealos. Pandain called D2 a clusterfuck with "no discussion at all". That's simply wrong, there were people discussing other things than BH. Now there is some "town circle" between them, suddenly their reads match because of "masons". I want to know how they have reached to the conclusion they have. I want to know who pushed their reads and who agreed and for what reasons. They can't just say "because of masons". That's bullshit. The problem here is that based on what people have done in this game tbh Zealos looks absolutely worst. There is no way i can argue against it whoever makes the case. It's annoying. :/ | ||
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On September 15 2013 03:09 Koshi wrote: yay Join us in the lynch Zealos/Pandain/OP/SnB train tomorrow! If Zealos & Pandain are town, why would scum hit Koshi? Assuming Vayne is telling truth about the roleblock scum indeed did hit Koshi. Why would you, as scum, hit the person whose scumreads are 3 green guys and one red, who is going to get lynched either way. It doesn't matter if Koshi looks obviously town if he is leading town into wrong direction. Why would you kill a townie who is leading the town into wrong direction? | ||
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On September 14 2013 07:23 Old Partner wrote: Well, it was an obvious lie that I couldn't be around for the deadline, and showing up at the last minute to vote to save myself? That would look okay for Blazinghand, but not for Old Partner who has a 9-5 job and no Smartphone. I have a smartphone. I gotta claim BH. But then, why am I playing so weirdly if I am BH? Well, the truth must come out.  Okay, this post means BH was lying about not being here at the deadline right? What does this mean.
- I don't think Zealos is scum. BH would have voted for blubbers. - I don't think Grackaroni is scum. He was one of the players BH got into an argument with on D1. - I don't think kushmasta is scum, BH wanted to lynch kush so hard on D1. - All the people who left their votes on BH on D1 are cleared to me. This leaves the following players:
- debears - Sn0_man Neither of these players hardly ever address each other. Can we just lynch all of them? It also makes sense as Vayne and debears were not around at the lynch time. Sno didn't want to lynch OP while showing some mild suspicion on him. He was on the blubbers lynch already. I think he is the SK, and Vayne + debears are scum. debears did not show any intention of pushing his kush lynch forward, did defend OP, and didn't say anything about the votes on blubbers. He also did not comment anything on Zealos lynch. His interactions with Vayne are non-existent. I don't think Sno is scum, because of his post D1 comments (right at the start of N1). They feel genuine ("is BH a character in Golden Sun" - rofl). So, i think Vayne + debears are scum. Sno is either SK or we have an SK hiding. But that can be resolved later. ##Unvote: ##Vote: VayneAuthority Besides this post, i have given my reasons why i think Vayne is scum. I am far more sure that he is scum than about debears (in case i am wrong on something). | ||
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On September 19 2013 22:04 kushm4sta wrote: rayne the thing is, bh's lynch was pretty much a forgone conclusion. Think about it from a scum perspective. They know bh is gonna flip red. So d2, scums objective was probably to distance themselves from BH in any way possible. I am talking about D1 in my post. I don't give a fuck what happened regarding BH on D2 because the whole day was wasted, besides from me/you/Oats. | ||
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On September 19 2013 22:09 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn is 100% scum, now Im confident. Kush, agree? Fuck you Oats. If i was scum nobody, absolutely nobody in my scumteam claims scum on N1, especially the Godfather with such bullshitting abilities BH has. | ||
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On September 19 2013 22:16 kushm4sta wrote: why can't umasi be scum? why cant sn0 Because Umasi was voting for BH. Sno, because of; Do you think this sounds like "i'm scum with BH": On September 14 2013 07:19 Sn0_Man wrote: OP's claim is bullshit I think. Unless BlazingHand is a character in Golden Sun? Also I didn't see any particularly out-of-place capital S in that post but it was about 2000 words so I may just not have seen it. That's some weird twisted shit from Sno if he is scum and i don't think he's capable of doing that. Like, who thinks like saying something like that if you know OP is BH? | ||
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On September 19 2013 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Also, possibly BH was really absent from the QT and the thread and decided not to listen to you rayn. Does it seem like BH was "really absent form the thread" on N1? Does it seem like i was? | ||
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