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On September 19 2013 02:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Are you ok with lynching debears today Rayn? Why the fuck would i be okay with lynching debears? If you can make a decent case i could consider it. Now there are just some quotes from his filter and then people say "lol, scum". | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Whats with the strong green read then you want to be convinced? I don't understand what you are saying.. | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote: Well first, you imply that you think debears is strongly town. Then you say that you can be swayed. Why? Why would a case on debears make you change your mind? I have not implied i think he is strongly town for me. I think he is SK to be honest. But i do not think he is scum. | ||
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How do you explain Grackaroni's vote switch on D1 based on his reasoning? Grack thinks Pandain & SnB & OP are scum. Grack has his vote on OP. SnB pushes Zealos lynch. Pandain makes a couple of good posts (according to Grack) and advocates kush lynch Grack switches to Zealos. Explain it to me from town pov. | ||
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Thinking debears is not in my top 2 candidates for scum != strong town read.. | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol what suspicion did he get put under? Absolutely nothing. The fakeclaim was to out the vet IMO, then he unfakeclaims and apologizes. The thing that makes me think he's town is that in his unfakeclaiming post, he posted that he doesnt want to be thought of confirmed town for the claim. Which is an odd mindset for scum. Because you don't have to be a fucking mafia god to come up with that kinda stuff as a team! Also if a townie looking dude does that nobody will think he is scum for that. Pandain you should know that too. I bet you are experienced enough to know that. Example: + Show Spoiler + This is from scum QT in GoT when Koshi was like confirmed scum for ~half of the active players: raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:20 PM ET (US) You can accuse fellow mafians if you have a "good" reason to. We are good enough to defend ourselves. Just do not make an idiot out of yourself by stupid stuff, that gets you policy lynched. For example, if there is anything that contradicts with your mindset in me, ask me questions. Be aggressive towards me. I do not mind, i can defend myself. You need to interact with your scumbuddies aswell, because we will lose member(s) at some point and you look terrible if you do not talk about your scumbuddies at all. Especially now when you are "under attack", even if you make a case on scum, you have no credit. There is no harm, IF YOUR CASE IS BELIEVEABLE from town pov. It does not have to be right, it has to be so that you look town. If you dunno how to do that, attack suspicious townies instead. :D raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:15 PM ET (US) Do not afk. That´s the worst thing you can do. I´m gonna push a lynch on a lurker if necessay (FT, Risen looks really bad, nachodude, Sharrant, etc.) Just remember this: Keep track of where your town!mind is. What are your "intentions", who do you think is mafia, what has your game plan been, who does oppose your game plan and "what that might mean". You are ok if you follow these things, whether or not you are right. Koshi 08-08-2013 06:08 PM ET (US) How do I enter the thread now? Or do I keep afk? Koshi 08-08-2013 06:07 PM ET (US) Ok, then I hold it back for when people ask me questions. I can trow Clarity under the bus at the same time because he soft defended OAts twice already and FoS me with a silly reason. raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:05 PM ET (US) TLDR; It does not matter who you accuse, but keep your story straight. Koshi made a theory that was obviously wrong but it bought him town credit for the rest of the game. Scum handle this shit together, it's not like Grackaroni is making only his own decisions if he is scum. wtf is with you people? | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:58 Pandain wrote: We don't have to be 100%, I at least am far more certain than anyone else he is antitown. There is like a .5% chance that Grack is scum, and a .0005 chance he is SK. I also disagree that he cannot be scum. Zealos did not vote for OP. BH could have thought he would gain town cred if he last second voted Zealos, which he would've. They could have miscalculated and thought they had to vote Zealos or OP would be lynched. There are too many variables you leave out and then make assumptions of when in reality it was a last 5 minute vote scram. Why did Zealos not vote for blubbers then? Do you think scum/SK agree on dying instead of voting for anyone who is not in their team, let it be just for living another phase? Zealos was there. He was in thread. He was about to get lynched. It makes zero sense if he is not town. He is town. | ||
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On September 19 2013 03:06 Pandain wrote: I have to leave for class, I will return. Points I have made 1. Grack is clearly not scum. Read his filter please. Even if he double fake claimed, his posting still makes him town. 2. Zealos is anti town, probably SK. 1) lololol, what he is then? 2) I refuse to believe that because if he is anti-town he played against his wincon on D1. He is clearly not scum because if he was he would have voted for blubbers. If he was Sk he would not have been okay with himself dying and had voted for blubbers/OP. @ Zealos: I 180'd because i re-read D1 end and N1 stuff after my vote on you. My vote on you was a pure reaction to SnB flip and me not going back and re-reading before D3 start. | ||
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Also he does not want to find scum, he is hunting for SK. Zealos is 100% not scum. | ||
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On September 19 2013 03:12 Pandain wrote: He is town, Rayn So "even if he fake claimed twice" he is town? wtf is this? | ||
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On September 19 2013 03:21 Pandain wrote: The mere fact your saying why questions highlights the fact most of your arguments rely on assumptions from those whys. I am searching for anti town people and Zealos is clearly not pro town. Given he is normally pro town I have to assume he is similar to his mafia playstyle. Or now tp play style Can you give me some scumreads? You already agreed it's highly unlike Zealos is scum. That means you think he is SK. Fair enough, i don't agree, but you can be right. Who is scum and why? | ||
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On September 19 2013 04:17 Papa_Smurf wrote: Kush is still scum. No wants wants to lynch him. anyways grack would fit with him. Va possibly could. Sn0 could. Why is Pandain town? | ||
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On September 19 2013 04:37 Papa_Smurf wrote: basically his play overall and how he relates to you. I only see him being scum if you are scum(or sk). I dont see either of those right now Uhh.. how does he exactly relate to me? I can't understand a thing you say.. | ||
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On September 19 2013 05:02 Papa_Smurf wrote: If you look at d1 with your interactions, you could see how you two interact with the thread that would make you both seem town. If you weren't town, the interaction (OP scummier than Pandain stuff) would mean you are both scum (or one scum one sk). As I said, I think you are both town, so doesn't really matter Wait.. What does me saying OP's opening posts were scummier than Pandain's have to do with his alignment? That was a fact whatever Pandain's alignment is. That does not however make him town. If i am scum that does not make him scum, why would it? In fact, if i was scum i wouldn't have called out my Godfather town before the other guy (in fact i would not have called either of them out, at least after it was clear people did not want to discuss OP with me for some reason). I was making a comparsion besides two people, one of who had bad reasons + fluff in his posts, and another one who had bad reasons + good reasons in his posts. I couldn't understand why people saw Pandain's post bad enough to discuss and OP's post not worth discussing. That however does not make them both town, and i do not how you are making a relation (same alignment) between us. If Pandain is scum why i must be SK, why can't i be town? If Pandain is SK why must i be scum? | ||
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On September 19 2013 05:19 Pandain wrote: I've scum hunted plenty. It's just that I like to analyze rather than post every opinion I have which is likely to change. That's why I go after my best reads rather than everyone at once, because my reads on other players will change eventually anyway. I'm trying my best with classes, judge what I have based on the quality of the posts. He's talking to Pandain i think. | ||
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On September 19 2013 05:58 Pandain wrote: Lynch Zealos. If he's not anti town, you can lynch me. That's the pandain way! That doesn't work unfortunately, because if we lynch town we lose. That's not a townie mindset. | ||
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If we mislynch we are at 6-2-1. Night kills 4-2-1. Then we NEED to lynch the SK to not lose the game. PAndain if you are a cop and have a SK report on Zealos just say so. Then we can actually discuss who is scum and lynch the shit out of the SK. Otherwise i am unwilling to believe your reasoning, because Zealos was acting self-destructive on D1 end. Anti-town people do not do so. | ||
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