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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 18 2013 21:50 Zealos wrote: I think BH is scum too You should start commenting on the game now.. Even if i think you are not scum nor SK there are 7 other people in this game who might not. Prove that you are town. You havn't talked about anything besides "SnB is scum". Guess what, he wasn't. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
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Zealos
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
your arguments are just bad and not how you play this game. your argument: they are a good scumteam so they would not have let that cluster fuck happen is a terrible argument and wrong. full of wifom. what interaction between grack/bh leads you to believe that grack is town? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
i have a shit ton of reasons why i think grack and panda are scum. read my filter you will find them. just been too lazy to compile them into a case. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 18 2013 22:09 kushm4sta wrote: rayne im really frustrated with you right now. your arguments are just bad and not how you play this game. your argument: they are a good scumteam so they would not have let that cluster fuck happen is a terrible argument and wrong. full of wifom. what interaction between grack/bh leads you to believe that grack is town? The interaction after BH's claim. BH calls Grack scum for his voteswitch and then Grack calls BH's scumread bad (for reasonable reasons). That ensures even more that Grack can't accept any other lynch on D2 that BH. Remember, there are yet ~half of the players who have not posted on N1. There is no way scum can 100% assume BH is gonna get lynched on D2. That's unnecessary and really dumb if Grack is scum with BH. If that was the case BH is making Grack to either (1) totally vote for BH on D2, or (2) possibly out himself in case he is trying to push another lynch than BH. And yes, my reasoning for debears/Pandain is reasonable. IF you think it's false explain to me why. "Best" players (especially when teamed up together) make very little mistakes compared to other people. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
If Grackaroni is scum with BH and Pandain, why did Grackaroni fakeclaim veteran to draw votes off debears (non-scum) onto BH (his scumbuddy)? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 18 2013 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also kushmasta, tell me this: If Grackaroni is scum with BH and Pandain, why did Grackaroni fakeclaim veteran to draw votes off debears (non-scum) onto BH (his scumbuddy)? huh... it wasn't necessary to draw votes off debears. BH lynch was gonna happen, and scum probably accepted from the start of the night. by the time grack fake claimed, the BH lynch had been set in stone for a while. Honestly I need to go back and reread that interaction between grack and bh before I can comment on it, but I still think it's an obvious bus spot. As for your good scumteam theory, I do not think that holds any weight at all. they did not expect an op wagon so it caught them off guard. You cannot assume that just because you think these players are good, they would have definitely handled d1 well. Plus the whole premise that grack/panda/bh scumteam is good, IS FALSE. BH is terrible as both town and scum. Especially scum. Last game I played with him he gave away the entire scumteam after his death. Pandain is a veternish player but he was never very well respected. This game marks an attempt for him to play better. In the mafia general forum he asked someone to watch his game and give him tips. And Grack is total newbie. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
1 a case on grack 2 a case on panda 3 a case on debears (plus an expansion of my metaread including newer games) 4 defense of vayne/zealos/anyone else people want to lynch I will get to this later, but which would you like first rayne? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
My meta is known for busing. Let me tell you why this is. I find it impossible to make arguments against people I know are townies. That is why I need to bus, because since they are really scum I don't have to make anything up. So a game like this, where I write extensive cases against people, I'm either busing or town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Here's his filter from p3 -> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427569&user=Grackaroni¤tpage=3 How does BH/Pandain/Grack make sense to you as scumteam? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 18 2013 22:38 kushm4sta wrote: There is work for me to do on this game, for sure. Hopefully I will do it tonight. MY to do list includes 1 a case on grack 2 a case on panda 3 a case on debears (plus an expansion of my metaread including newer games) 4 defense of vayne/zealos/anyone else people want to lynch I will get to this later, but which would you like first rayne? Case on Grack and defense on Vayne. | ||
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Papa_Smurf
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Papa_Smurf
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 14 2013 12:29 Grackaroni wrote: You think that both Rayn and BH look scummy. Rayn was repeatedly pushing BH over Pandain when nobody was suspicious of BH. do you think that Rayn was actually bussing BH today or do you think that they both have things about them that are scummy but it is unlikely that they are scum together? Where do you get the idea that i would be bussing BH? It was not sure he was scum then. If i was scum and he was not, why is it fishy for SnB to assume i could be scum and BH is not? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
What do you think about the post i wrote about N1 reactions to BH's claim? Ignore kush talking about you being SK, what do you make of the argument between me and him? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 18 2013 22:42 kushm4sta wrote: Also to the people who think i'm scum: no just no. My meta is known for busing. Let me tell you why this is. I find it impossible to make arguments against people I know are townies. That is why I need to bus, because since they are really scum I don't have to make anything up. So a game like this, where I write extensive cases against people, I'm either busing or town. I honestly think that this makes kush town. | ||
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Papa_Smurf
336 Posts
Assuming that the "good" (I think experienced is a better word since good is game by game) are not on the same side is a very dangerous line to walk. It may be the case this game, but not every game. also, assuming that the sk is one of the more experienced is 3p is wromg. Once you get into vet games the skill differencr isnt that great overall. | ||
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