if they are bad can you show me then? i just wrote a ton of posts on why they are the scummiest to me. you'll have to tell me why its bad to take you seriously.

Grack claimed for no reason = he town.
Pandain tried to lynch dudes d1. = he town.

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

September 18 2013 05:31 GMT

#2882

not really the most compelling reasons but ill read over them again. I will give you that pandain was making sense day 1, but you can't base everything off day 1. since then he really has done nothing. What's stopping me from voting him right now is that he so shamelessly hard defended OP so im trying to decide if desperate scum or just wrong place wrong time.

i dont see how claiming for no reason makes some one town. It confused everyone and spammed the thread for no reason. Not to mention that wan't even his claim, he goes back and changes it again once he realizes that he doesn't wanna be a vet. Combine that with him taking vote last second off OP and he is pretty anti-town and suspicious.

Koshi

Belgium38797 Posts

September 18 2013 06:36 GMT

#2883

gg gl town!

ShiaoPi

TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts

September 18 2013 06:53 GMT

#2884

Day 3 Votecount:

Zealos(1): raynpelikoneet, ~~Umas~~

kushm4sta(2): Papa_Smurf, Umasi

Currently kushm4sta is set to be lynched! Remember, voting is mandatory!
Next deadline:
Deadline date: Thursday, Sep 19 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Zealos

United Kingdom3573 Posts

September 18 2013 09:04 GMT

#2885

Hmm.
First thoughts on the night kill on SnB seems that it makes it too easy to try to get me lynched. Prove he's a townie, then I look bad for pushing him as Scum...

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 18 2013 10:57 GMT

#2886

On September 18 2013 07:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
got roleblocked last night

can veteran be roleblocked to die in 1 shot?

On September 18 2013 07:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
also whoever roleblocked me should come forward and confirm me, that would be great.

On September 18 2013 07:23 ShiaoPi wrote:

Show nested quote +

yes

On September 18 2013 07:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
so there you have it, koshi didn't say he was rb'ed yesterday so he took 2 shots. there's the missing shot from yesterday.

I would like to hear your thought process behind these posts vayne.

To me this souds really odd because of the following:
SnB was roleblocked N1. He was town. You were roleblocked N2. You know you are town. There was only 1 death N1. Town veteran died N2 with SnB. In any case, for you, there are 2 roleblock claims. SnB was town so he wa not lying. You should automatically assume Koshi was hit on N1 and N2. Why do you need to know if veteran ability can be blocked or not before you can say so, you were roleblocked, remember?

Or are you scum, roleblocked Koshi on N2 and hit him, and now you are going "see guys, i am right" and fakeclaiming the roleblock? Also why would mafia not roleblock you if you are town?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 18 2013 11:06 GMT

#2887

Pandain, explain, from your Mason "log" with Umasi:

Papa is probably town, I think Vayne is, waiting to see more of Oats, Zealos, and Sno_man, especially the latter.

First one we lynch should be one of Vayne, Sno, and zealos, as I'm not too confident in Kush anymore after reading his town filters. I'm going to do an analysis on all of them and hopefully it will be good

Why is Vayne first probably town, and after that in your lynch priority list? What changed during that time?

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

September 18 2013 11:28 GMT

#2888

oats this is the last time im going to say this.
you are straight up full on retarded

ShiaoPi

TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5955 Posts

September 18 2013 11:42 GMT

#2889

The last time I am going to say this. Stop the ad hominem attacks for no reason.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

September 18 2013 11:46 GMT

#2890

theres a reason tho

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 18 2013 11:53 GMT

#2891

Another thing to note. When N1 started, i immediately called BH scum. He claims. These are some noteworthy posts after that:

On September 14 2013 07:12 Grackaroni wrote:

Show nested quote +

Yup, that last minute vote switch. OP wasn't even in the thread before he did that shit.

Totally townie response.

On September 14 2013 07:18 Zealos wrote:
I think OP/BH needs to die. Survivor = lynch
I doubt he even is Survivor. His attempt to argue his way out of it is crummy, at best. Get it?

##Predayvote:OP

vigipls

On September 14 2013 07:19 Zealos wrote:

Show nested quote +

Totally townie response.

On September 14 2013 07:18 Pandain wrote:
Alright, this is a lot of good stuff to analyze. I'll make a post later.

Totally null response. Never analyzes this later.

On September 14 2013 07:19 kushm4sta wrote:
I.believe bh

Totally null response.

On September 14 2013 07:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
OP's claim is bullshit I think. Unless BlazingHand is a character in Golden Sun?

Also I didn't see any particularly out-of-place capital S in that post but it was about 2000 words so I may just not have seen it.

Totally supertownie response. Like what scum does not know or fakes they do not know BH is in their team?

On September 14 2013 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
im back, catching up now. saw the mislynch though =/ gotta look at the people that followed my wagon with little to no support.

Totally null to scummy response. Doesn't even address the most important issue in thread atm.

On September 14 2013 08:14 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Lol BH I love you <3

Some things off the top of my head: Raynp's and Koshi's dropping of SnB is off(especially gotta look at raynp, that little bugger). I wouldn't think both are scum . Seemed like the thread presence of vayne and grack fell off (not sure but had town reads on them double checking that shit).

And guess I'll just wait til rigghhhhhtttt about dawn for anything super insightful. Haven't really decided if I'll post right before or quite a bit before

I have no idea what this means. If i had to guess i'd say leaning on town because if i was scum with BH i would be super mad at him for fakeclaiming.

Other people (Oats) didn't say anything. For Oats that's reasonable as he was probably sleeping and he pushed BH on D1 anyways so idgaf about it. He's town.

From this:
Snodude, Zealos, Grackaroni, and Umasi + Oats (for different reasons), debears.
kushmasta, Pandain.
VayneAuthority

Holy shit, there are only three players left who are not green! If anyone disagrees with me, time to talk.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 18 2013 11:55 GMT

#2892

##Unvote:
##Vote: VayneAuthority

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

September 18 2013 11:56 GMT

#2893

i disagree! what grack said wasn't townie. just busing in an obvious bus spot

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 18 2013 12:01 GMT

#2894

On September 18 2013 20:56 kushm4sta wrote:
i disagree! what grack said wasn't townie. just busing in an obvious bus spot

Why the fuck would you buss? There is a chance town buys the claim and does not lynch BH D2?
If you take hard chances like that and buss you are gonna have a hard time not justifying any other vote than a vote on BH on D2. Grackaroni was the first who said "BH is scum or anti-town, that's it" after me.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 18 2013 12:02 GMT

#2895

EBWOP: chances = stances

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

September 18 2013 12:13 GMT

#2896

On September 18 2013 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Show nested quote +

grack was not shitting on his claim tho. just saying "you got some explaining to do cause you said you weren't gonna be there"
ie obvious shit
GRACK was not commenting on the validity of his claim at all.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 18 2013 12:17 GMT

#2897

Did you look at Grack's / BH's posts after that? Does that seem like a scum-scum interaction to you?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 18 2013 12:27 GMT

#2898

kushmasta did you even read the thread from N1 start -> after my post?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

September 18 2013 12:44 GMT

#2899

Here is what i believe:
I think it's impossible that BlazingHand is scum with Pandain and debears. Hell i think it's impossible that either of Pandain/BH is scum. The reason is this. BH + one of Pandain/debears would make 2/3 best players in this game as scum. Do you think scumteam would fuck up on D1-N1 like they did in case one of those guys was scum with BH. Hell fucking no. That makes Pandain/debears non-scum.

Interestingly enough, if (when) Vayne flips scum, it will be confirmed that he is lying about the roleblock. That makes it 99% certain that scum roleblocked and hit Koshi on N2. That also means they did not hit Koshi on N1. Look at Vayne's posts at the start of D3 and about the roleblock. lol, that's crap. Anyways, if scum did not hit Koshi on N1, it means scum most likely hit the SK. Mafia definitely did not hit WoS on N1, that's absurd given that BH was alive, he's too good to make such a crappy hit. That leaves us with debears/Pandain as SK. kushmasta is scum too i believe. He has pushed debears/Pandain all game with no real reasoning (well there is some on debears - but it's not strong).