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Old Partner
United States274 Posts
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Old Partner
United States274 Posts
just vote for PS/DB... do it... | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On September 16 2013 13:39 Old Partner wrote: You say debears has been pro-town all game long. Are you referring to his activity levels, his choice of target, his ability / willingness to convince other players, how he's affected town atmosphere, what reads he has had, or some other metric? If I were SK, I would have claimed Vigilante. It's really that simple. Hell, if I were SK, I would claim SK and use my shots for the "good of the town" and try to get into a kingmaker scenario. I sure wouldn't claim survivor. Your statement about the previous setups of 15-player games on TL is true, but I have been in many closed set games that were first-of-their-kinds on TL. It's not a strong argument for my survivorhood, but you can't OUTRIGHT dismiss the possibility. Pretty much everything about him reads town to me right now, he was on the same page as me all game long and from what I can recall he brought up lots of the same points as me at the same time. I disagree with Koshi, He is one of the few people in the game who I actually do feel is analyzing, Sure activity level is a + as well. I am actually getting very suspicious of the sn0 man at this point. On a further reread he spent most of the day sheeping my analysis and now with Pandain's recent posting it looks like both my reads on Blub and Pandain were wrong. His opinion on Rayn looks off to me for some reason and I can't explain why yet. Just control F rayn and look through his filter. I don't know. I completely forgot that this guy was even in the game and his recent disappearance doesn't help his case. | ||
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Old Partner
United States274 Posts
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Grackaroni
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 16 2013 16:33 Old Partner wrote: Not that I PARTICULARLY care but given the unique mixture of shitstorm and lurk that's happened today because you guys are lynching me... I'd say town is pretty fucked lol FEARMONGERING | ||
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Old Partner
United States274 Posts
On September 16 2013 16:34 Grackaroni wrote: BH, are you somebody that is able to get a good read on Oats? yes but there's no reason for me to do so, we can't get him lynched today. Honestly this would still be true if we lynched PS/DB, even assuming he flips scum. | ||
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Old Partner
United States274 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On September 16 2013 16:35 Old Partner wrote: yes but there's no reason for me to do so, we can't get him lynched today. Honestly this would still be true if we lynched PS/DB, even assuming he flips scum. I don't give a shit if "we can get him lynched today" I want to know what he alignment he is. Everybody claims that they have an easy time reading Oats and I don't know how to read him. If you really want to survive the lynch you should start helping town. It's so obvious but you just aren't getting it for some reason. Why would town want to leave you alive if you are openly going to try to convince town into lynching someone you don't believe is scum in order to save yourself. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
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Old Partner
United States274 Posts
On September 16 2013 16:39 Grackaroni wrote: I don't give a shit if "we can get him lynched today" I want to know what he alignment he is. Everybody claims that they have an easy time reading Oats and I don't know how to read him. If you really want to survive the lynch you should start helping town. It's so obvious but you just aren't getting it for some reason. Why would town want to leave you alive if you are openly going to try to convince town into lynching someone you don't believe is scum in order to save yourself. Grackaroni, there's really only one possible outcome to me writing a case on oats: some of the undecided people who are voting for PS/DB swap over to him. Do you REALLY think some kind of "townie credit" I get from writing a case on oats would cause people to unvote me for him? You can't really think that. This town has a small core of very active players and a large group of lurkers. shenannies aren't going to happen. The people on my wagon are much more sure than the people on the PS/DB wagon. Helping town does nothing for me at this point. Convincing people to vote PS/DB is the only thing that matters, and people on my wagon are a mixture of dumb/vindictive (you) and voting me for sound policy reasons. When it comes down to it, I need to win. And writing a case on oats decreases my chance of survival. If I die, I lose. If I live, I can win. | ||
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Old Partner
United States274 Posts
On September 16 2013 16:41 Grackaroni wrote: Don't even write a case on oats. just tell me what you think his alignment is and give me a short reason why you think it. You really think I would respond to this with anything other than "hurr durr I think everyone but PS/DB is town" look, I'll leave town a little cookie for after I flip: Zealos is at this moment the player most likely to flip scum. But you don't see me pushing him, cause I want to LIVE. I win by LIVING. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On September 16 2013 16:43 Old Partner wrote: You really think I would respond to this with anything other than "hurr durr I think everyone but PS/DB is town" look, I'll leave town a little cookie for after I flip: Zealos is at this moment the player most likely to flip scum. But you don't see me pushing him, cause I want to LIVE. I win by LIVING. lol yes, I would have thought you would respond to this with something besides that. I know you think Zealos is scum you said it earlier. I want reads on other players. I don't care if you want us to believe you are survivor by continuously posting that you will try to convince people to vote for people regardless if you think they are scummy. Personally I'm never going to believe that you are survivor, but if you want to have any possible glimmer of hope of surviving this lynch you will give me your real opinions on players, not the "I agree, let's lynch Debears because he isn't me." | ||
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Old Partner
United States274 Posts
On September 16 2013 16:52 Grackaroni wrote: lol yes, I would have thought you would respond to this with something besides that. I know you think Zealos is scum you said it earlier. I want reads on other players. I don't care if you want us to believe you are survivor by continuously posting that you will try to convince people to vote for people regardless if you think they are scummy. Personally I'm never going to believe that you are survivor, but if you want to have any possible glimmer of hope of surviving this lynch you will give me your real opinions on players, not the "I agree, let's lynch Debears because he isn't me." lol nice try but you really haven't convinced me that giving opinions on people other than PS/DB will do anything other than just make my situation worse lern2convinc | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I'll help you analyze Oats in like 10 hours I am way too busy with work ATM | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
1) Why did you keep these long notes on D1? You really read nothing out of that? I don't believe it. 2) The last 100 post you made were actually more anti-town than town. You have been promising shit to us but in the end you don't deliver. This is really the last time I waste a post to you. plzdiethx! | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I have played a shitton with Oats lately. Nuclear Winter Mafia, Titanic, Persona, Aperture and now this game. What do you want to know? | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On September 16 2013 17:09 Koshi wrote: @grack. I have played a shitton with Oats lately. Nuclear Winter Mafia, Titanic, Persona, Aperture and now this game. What do you want to know? Just what you think his alignment this game is and how you can tell. Every game I see someone talking about how Oats is the easiest player to read and I have absolutely no idea how to read him. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 16 2013 17:14 Grackaroni wrote: Just what you think his alignment this game is and how you can tell. Every game I see someone talking about how Oats is the easiest player to read and I have absolutely no idea how to read him. They told me this: If Oats is agressive and in your face he is town. If Oats is passive and shifty he is scum. He was pretty passive and evasive in NWM in which he was scum with me. Not the biggest help to the scumteam. Are there examples that you need to have to form an opinion about him? What bothers you about him this game? | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On September 16 2013 17:27 Koshi wrote: They told me this: If Oats is agressive and in your face he is town. If Oats is passive and shifty he is scum. He was pretty passive and evasive in NWM in which he was scum with me. Not the biggest help to the scumteam. Are there examples that you need to have to form an opinion about him? What bothers you about him this game? I disagree with a lot of his posts and a lot of his ideas. but I would describe him as aggressive and in my face this game rather than passive and shifty. | ||
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