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Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 15 2013 19:39 GMT
#2021
Vayne do you find it odd koshi and raynp are doing the same thing to both of us?
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 15 2013 19:40 GMT
#2022
Btw I would love to know how I'm a main candidate without a single fucking real case on me.

The only case that has been presented is a kush case that was 1) wrong and 2) I debunked.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 19:41 GMT
#2023
well i've been saying they are both scummy for a while now and ive played multiple times with both of them. at least one is scum im sure of that.

rayn would surprisingly be this bad as town, and when koshi looks good he is usually scum. So im having trouble deciding if they are just both scum or I just WANT them to be both scum.
I come in for the scraps
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 15 2013 19:42 GMT
#2024
On September 16 2013 04:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
well i've been saying they are both scummy for a while now and ive played multiple times with both of them. at least one is scum im sure of that.

rayn would surprisingly be this bad as town, and when koshi looks good he is usually scum. So im having trouble deciding if they are just both scum or I just WANT them to be both scum.


I just can't wrap my head around koshi consistently saying I'm scummy, yet never wanting to do a case despite me asking him multiple times and him asking everyone else to.

Raynp I think is more likely to be the town if only 1 was town.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 15 2013 20:23 GMT
#2025
VA says I am playing good. yay!
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2013 20:26 GMT
#2026
On September 16 2013 04:40 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Btw I would love to know how I'm a main candidate without a single fucking real case on me.

The only case that has been presented is a kush case that was 1) wrong and 2) I debunked.

tbh i do not understand that either. People who are voting for you should make a case. kush has a case but i do not think that's good and you have given an acceptable defence to it.

I do not however understand why should i make a case on someone i do not even want to lynch today?
table for two on a tv tray
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 15 2013 20:27 GMT
#2027
1. here's the character from the game that is BH's claimed role PM:
http://goldensun.wikia.com/wiki/Tolbi-bound_Ship_captain

this doesn't mean he's telling the truth, I still don't believe his breadcrumb. but people saying he's lying because his character isn't in the flavor just didn't look hard enough.

still reading brt
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 15 2013 20:28 GMT
#2028
On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote:
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!

For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT

If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either

1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor

neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.

And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack

okay actually i don't like that bh leaves out the possibility that he's SK who got a fake survivor claim from the hosts. that's the obviously more likely possibility than the two he outlines but he tries to gloss over it without addressing it.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 15 2013 20:31 GMT
#2029
here's something people can respond to while i keep reading.

why are we totally ignoring zealos, despite him being the Wagon of Justice yesterday? No one has said a single thing that convinces me away from my interpretation of the differences between how he's played this game and how he played in those other two town games i posted links to. He hasn't engaged with this game at all except to poke at me occasionally. I'm pretty mystified by how no one has even mentioned him since yesterday. I still think he's scum.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 15 2013 20:33 GMT
#2030
On September 16 2013 05:31 strongandbig wrote:
here's something people can respond to while i keep reading.

why are we totally ignoring zealos, despite him being the Wagon of Justice yesterday? No one has said a single thing that convinces me away from my interpretation of the differences between how he's played this game and how he played in those other two town games i posted links to. He hasn't engaged with this game at all except to poke at me occasionally. I'm pretty mystified by how no one has even mentioned him since yesterday. I still think he's scum.

It's 50/50 unless you find a meta case or something.
He is being a annoying. But is he doing it as scum or as town?
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 15 2013 20:33 GMT
#2031
He starts contributing or we lynch him tomorrow. I think his responses near the lynch were townie, but that does not make him totally town. Same can be said about Umasi (the contributing part).
table for two on a tv tray
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 15 2013 20:37 GMT
#2032
On September 16 2013 05:33 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:31 strongandbig wrote:
here's something people can respond to while i keep reading.

why are we totally ignoring zealos, despite him being the Wagon of Justice yesterday? No one has said a single thing that convinces me away from my interpretation of the differences between how he's played this game and how he played in those other two town games i posted links to. He hasn't engaged with this game at all except to poke at me occasionally. I'm pretty mystified by how no one has even mentioned him since yesterday. I still think he's scum.

It's 50/50 unless you find a meta case or something.
He is being a annoying. But is he doing it as scum or as town?

On September 14 2013 05:35 strongandbig wrote:
k i would rather lynch zealos than kush if we're lynching someone who is not fully participating. zealos hasn't just posted very little - he did that in all three of his town games i looked at - but he's also barely engaged with anything happening in thread. And unlike kush, that's out of the ordinary for him. in his most recent game, half his filter was in code or some shit, but in both of his previous town games before that, he had short filters which nevertheless actually engaged the thread much more than he has here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378069&user=Zealos&view=all
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383489&user=zealos&view=all

i made a meta case
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 20:38 GMT
#2033
On September 16 2013 05:28 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote:
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!

For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT

If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either

1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor

neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.

And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack

okay actually i don't like that bh leaves out the possibility that he's SK who got a fake survivor claim from the hosts. that's the obviously more likely possibility than the two he outlines but he tries to gloss over it without addressing it.


man the point of the thing isn't that it somehow exonerates me, the point of that post is that people who say I made up my role PM are like super double dumb.
For better or for worse, things had changed.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 15 2013 20:39 GMT
#2034
On September 16 2013 05:37 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:33 Koshi wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:31 strongandbig wrote:
here's something people can respond to while i keep reading.

why are we totally ignoring zealos, despite him being the Wagon of Justice yesterday? No one has said a single thing that convinces me away from my interpretation of the differences between how he's played this game and how he played in those other two town games i posted links to. He hasn't engaged with this game at all except to poke at me occasionally. I'm pretty mystified by how no one has even mentioned him since yesterday. I still think he's scum.

It's 50/50 unless you find a meta case or something.
He is being a annoying. But is he doing it as scum or as town?

Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 05:35 strongandbig wrote:
k i would rather lynch zealos than kush if we're lynching someone who is not fully participating. zealos hasn't just posted very little - he did that in all three of his town games i looked at - but he's also barely engaged with anything happening in thread. And unlike kush, that's out of the ordinary for him. in his most recent game, half his filter was in code or some shit, but in both of his previous town games before that, he had short filters which nevertheless actually engaged the thread much more than he has here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378069&user=Zealos&view=all
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383489&user=zealos&view=all

i made a meta case

ohyeah. didn't liked that one.
I don't know about Zealos. I don't think he is scum. More likely blue town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 20:39 GMT
#2035
like there are three possibilities here

1) i am survivor
2) i was given a fake survivor pm by hosts
3) i made up the pm entirely on my own

the point i'm making in that post isn't that #1 is true (though it is), it's that #3 is like profoundly stupid and anyone who things it should feel bad
For better or for worse, things had changed.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 15 2013 20:39 GMT
#2036
On September 16 2013 05:38 Old Partner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:28 strongandbig wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote:
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!

For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT

If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either

1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor

neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.

And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack

okay actually i don't like that bh leaves out the possibility that he's SK who got a fake survivor claim from the hosts. that's the obviously more likely possibility than the two he outlines but he tries to gloss over it without addressing it.


man the point of the thing isn't that it somehow exonerates me, the point of that post is that people who say I made up my role PM are like super double dumb.

You are so boring.
I had a good night of sleep.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 15 2013 20:40 GMT
#2037
On September 16 2013 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He starts contributing or we lynch him tomorrow. I think his responses near the lynch were townie, but that does not make him totally town. Same can be said about Umasi (the contributing part).

how are his responses around the lynch "townie"

seriously you can't just say stuff like this without providing any evidence or analysis to back it up.

all i see in his responses around the lynch was
On September 14 2013 06:42 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 06:40 strongandbig wrote:
Panda why do you say zealos is not going to happen. There are enough people active for a last minute vote switch to work. No one has said they're strongly against a zealos lunch. How about everyone who would be okay win zealos rather than old partner just switch now and can squelch back in ten minutes if it doesn't reach majority.

I still think this guy is scum. He's flipping from person to person who he feels are easy targets.

If you're gonna write lots, at least try to look like you're being useful~

which is blatantly wrong since i'd been yelling at you all day, and then a whole bunch of times he just says "lynch snb" or "snb is making bad posts" or whatever.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Old Partner
Profile Joined September 2013
United States274 Posts
September 15 2013 20:41 GMT
#2038
On September 16 2013 05:39 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:38 Old Partner wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:28 strongandbig wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote:
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!

For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT

If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either

1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor

neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.

And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack

okay actually i don't like that bh leaves out the possibility that he's SK who got a fake survivor claim from the hosts. that's the obviously more likely possibility than the two he outlines but he tries to gloss over it without addressing it.


man the point of the thing isn't that it somehow exonerates me, the point of that post is that people who say I made up my role PM are like super double dumb.

You are so boring.


yeah, i know, none of that that i've posted gives anyone any reason to unvote me ;_; I'll think of something, okay! >.>
For better or for worse, things had changed.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 15 2013 20:42 GMT
#2039
On September 16 2013 05:41 Old Partner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 05:39 Koshi wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:38 Old Partner wrote:
On September 16 2013 05:28 strongandbig wrote:
On September 16 2013 02:44 Old Partner wrote:
Ok, I'm back. Seeing that people might actually be interested in lynching someone else today has given me the realization that it's possible for me to live instead of dying (which would be awesome). I still have something to play for!

For all you guys who are criticizing my role PM, you guys are like literally retarded. Look, if you think I fakeclaimed Survivor as Scum, then that's fine. But if I did, you should probably assume I got my PM from the hosts. AND EVEN EVEN I MADE THE PM UP, why on god's green earth would I use a character not from Golden Sun? Look, I didn't play Golden Sun. I don't know who the Captain is. Apparently he's not important enough to be on the wiki page or whatever. But BUT BUT

If you think I made the Role PM up myself, do you really think I ACCIDENTALLY picked a 2-shot hiding ability? No, if you think I'm fakeclaiming, you MUST think that either

1) I am an SK with a 2-shot hiding ability, then HAPPENED to write my fake survivor claim PM in EXACTLY the same way that WoS's PM was.
2) I am scum who got survivor as one of the fakeclaim PMs from hosts in a game where there already is a survivor

neither of which strike me as particularly sensible. now, admittedly, 2 survivors in a game is pretty rare. But the idea that I ACCIDENTALLY faked a survivor claim perfectly? Jesus christ man.

And now that I've written it I've realized there's no chance to convince PS/DB anyways fack

okay actually i don't like that bh leaves out the possibility that he's SK who got a fake survivor claim from the hosts. that's the obviously more likely possibility than the two he outlines but he tries to gloss over it without addressing it.


man the point of the thing isn't that it somehow exonerates me, the point of that post is that people who say I made up my role PM are like super double dumb.

You are so boring.


yeah, i know, none of that that i've posted gives anyone any reason to unvote me ;_; I'll think of something, okay! >.>

I am still bored.
I had a good night of sleep.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 15 2013 20:42 GMT
#2040
On September 16 2013 05:39 Old Partner wrote:
like there are three possibilities here

1) i am survivor
2) i was given a fake survivor pm by hosts
3) i made up the pm entirely on my own

the point i'm making in that post isn't that #1 is true (though it is), it's that #3 is like profoundly stupid and anyone who things it should feel bad

it's not possible that you made up your role pm
if you had, you would have known where your character was in the lore, and then given that link to golden sun wikia a long time ago.

the possibility is that you asked the hosts "hey can you give me a survivor fake claim" and they copied wos's pm and changed the flavor to a different character in the game.

but bh no response to my awesome squirtle breadcrumb uncover?
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