I am mad because people do dumb shit to get modkilled.
I am mad because that confirms people.
That's not cool.

That does not mean i am mafia because i am town, but i'm still mad because of it.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 03 2013 23:37 GMT

#1923

Hapahauli, for real. Do you think marv is town?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 03 2013 23:42 GMT

#1924

I'm back, late to the party. Don't have much to say about debears' case against me, other than I haven't managed to lead a town since personality and I don't know how to fix that apparently. I found the time and tried to make the right choices around lynch-times but I failed. Whatever.

Anyway, I like this bit of the game because we have some concrete information. Hapa is confirmed because of the water level going down 100 and debears' PM. Unless hapa is some weird as fuck scum doctor (he isn't).

Secondly, we know (probably) that debears was roleblocked night 1, and presumably sciberbia night 2 as his shot didn't go through.

Thirdly, and most importantly, we have an unaccounted shot from night 1. rayn claimed hit, debears claimed hit. On night 2 as far as I can see only sciberbia got hit. SK theory seems to be out of the window because we already have a 3rd party I guess? Which leaves scum vigi as the only option, although that makes next to no sense to me as every role (barring roleblocker) has been conditional so far.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 03 2013 23:42 GMT

#1925

On September 04 2013 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hapahauli, for real. Do you think marv is town?

I have to read through his filter again. I have been leaning town on him up until now, yes.

I'm going to go grab some dinner and compile some reads. On the bright side to this game, there are 7 non-confirmed players, and 3 scum. We have pretty good odds to catch one.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 03 2013 23:45 GMT

#1926

and @ Yamato in particular

buckle up, because we're figuring out your allignment in the next 24 hours.

On September 03 2013 08:32 yamato77 wrote:

Show nested quote +

On September 03 2013 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:

On September 03 2013 08:22 yamato77 wrote:

On September 03 2013 08:16 Hapahauli wrote:

On September 03 2013 08:15 yamato77 wrote:

On September 03 2013 07:57 sciberbia wrote:
@yamato
Were you ever planning on helping me lynch your SCUMREAD oats?

This is why I pushed Hapascum

Nobody listen to scumhunter extraodinaire Yams who is so good he's already dead in Aperture

So are you going to talk to me about this scumread or not?

I saw your response. I am not impressed. I don't think you read my posts too deeply if you think that was the only point against you.

Well your other point is that "I spent no time discussion lynch targets", which I find to be pretty false given that I led the consolidation at the end of today (even if it was a mislynch). I was on the fence for most of the day because I've been pretty damn lost this game read wise. Normally I can tunnel a player and get the information I want, but players like yourself, Oats, Alakasam, Onegu, and others I need posts from either are horrendously inactive or absent from the thread when I'm here or something.

SO yeah, my current view on the game is that scum is somewhere in the lurkers and that we have a circle-jerk of active townies who are willing to post. And that's a problem given how many goddamn inactives there are.

As for my read on you... well what's wrong about it? You've been useless to your own admission this game:

On September 02 2013 10:04 yamato77 wrote:

On September 02 2013 09:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Yamato, why are you being so useless this game? Is this a work-related thing? Because I've never seen a town-game from you where you've had such abysmal thread-presence.

I really haven't played town in a while, and certainly not with this group of players who I mostly find difficult to read.

Generally, it's easy enough for me to get some townreads and go from there, but I have too many question marks and not enough time to really pin them all down.

@scib I will give those reads, probably in the morning. I am unfortunately out of time right now.

... and I'm at a loss what to think of you. You're asleep/working when I'm active in the thread, and tunnel me when I'm gone.

I'll be on for a while tonight. If you're town, we'll resolve this.

If you pull this shit again, I'm insta-lynching you

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 03 2013 23:49 GMT

#1927

Look closely on marv and thrawn please, Hapa.
I'll hate myself forever if my D1 target wins as mafia without me lynching him. Iam not bad at this shit and i do not trust marv shit anymore.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 03 2013 23:50 GMT

#1928

rayn what do you think happened with the night 1 hits?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 03 2013 23:53 GMT

#1929

On September 04 2013 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
rayn what do you think happened with the night 1 hits?

I have no idea. I did never understand why mafia would hit debears unless you or Hapa is scum. Now that Hapa is confirmed town.. well you know.

Nobody never explained that to me despite me asking people about it. I thought SK hit him and scum hit me.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 04 2013 00:00 GMT

#1930

you have to know i would never ever hit you as mafia, lol.

the only two options as far as i can see is that there's an unconditional scum vig, or you're lying. yes?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 04 2013 00:02 GMT

#1931

On September 04 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
you have to know i would never ever hit you as mafia, lol.

the only two options as far as i can see is that there's an unconditional scum vig, or you're lying. yes?

Why is it impossible that thrawn is mafia and hit me?
Why do you only refer to yourself when talking about my hit?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 04 2013 00:04 GMT

#1932

Because you're trying to paint me as scum on wifom from a night 1 kill?

I didn't say it was impossible thrawn was mafia? I said there are, apparently, two shots on night 1 and we've had a third party without KP flip is what i'm saying.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 04 2013 00:14 GMT

#1933

Looking at Rayn with a level head, he has a 20 page filter, and the circumstances of his vet claim were so absurdly suicidal that I can't see scum fake-claiming there.

By all sensible measures, he's town and we should be lookign elsewhere for today's lynch.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 04 2013 00:18 GMT

#1934

As for the unconditional mafia vigi thing, I think that's perfectly valid.

The roleblocker so far has been unconditional (if we are to believe debears, and what reason does he have to lie?) so it makes sense for the vigi to be unconditional as well.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 04 2013 00:20 GMT

#1935

I disagree about the mafia vigi thing, but your post above that I think I agree with in the end.

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 04 2013 00:21 GMT

#1936

Marv, can I get some concrete thoughts from you about Yamato? Feel free to take your time, but I do want something more than "I feel torn".

Hapahauli

United States9305 Posts

September 04 2013 00:23 GMT

#1937

And Rayn, I know you think Yamato is town, but I think that's a bad way to approach today.

We should be treating everyone null and starting over. It's LYLO, and we need to explore all possibilities. I'll be sure to look into TK and marv, but please give me your patience and look into a level head into the others as well.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

September 04 2013 00:27 GMT

#1938

I know I have a decent chunk of time tomorrow evening, so I shall use it wisely

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 04 2013 00:28 GMT

#1939

On September 04 2013 09:23 Hapahauli wrote:
And Rayn, I know you think Yamato is town, but I think that's a bad way to approach today.

We should be treating everyone null and starting over. It's LYLO, and we need to explore all possibilities. I'll be sure to look into TK and marv, but please give me your patience and look into a level head into the others as well.

Yessir. Now that i know you are town i will do that when you ask.
I really felt like shit when you wanted to lynch Oats, lynch Oats and then lynch Oats whatever i said and that made me feel like you are scum. I'll sleep over night and take a full reread on everything.