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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2013 20:32 GMT
#981
Just to emphasise, I'm curious why Hapa wants to give alakaslam a pass given his posting since he got in the game; I don't find this suspicious from hapa, just the wrong attitude.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2013 20:32 GMT
#982
On August 31 2013 05:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 05:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
what Hapa, what is the exchabnge you are talking about?


The TK/Hopeless exchange in your last case.

The exchange is very clear.
TK asks, Hopeless answers. TK does not follow up.
Then he says something. I point out a lie. He says something else.

Would you make a fucking 7 line "explanation" of something (like he did) if you were not 100% sure what your thought process is? What are you talking about?

He clarified his thought process, and he was very clear in it. He was lying. That's it. He is mafia.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 30 2013 20:33 GMT
#983
On August 31 2013 05:32 marvellosity wrote:
Just to emphasise, I'm curious why Hapa wants to give alakaslam a pass given his posting since he got in the game; I don't find this suspicious from hapa, just the wrong attitude.

On August 31 2013 03:40 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 03:38 Onegu wrote:
On August 31 2013 03:22 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote

Lynching replacements isn't good the day they get replaced. We shouldn't be lynching Alakaslam today unless he does something very egregiously scummy.

For people voting FT... that's even worse. A coin-flip lynch is going to lead to zero discussion and waste the entirety of Day 1.

Let's find another candidate. Day 1's are made or broken in the last few hours anyway, so let's see who steps up and hunts some scum.



It shouldnt matter he is a replacement, sorry you replaced someone who is scummy tough luck. And why does a FT lynch waste the day? It gets rid of someone who has a good chance at being scum, and its not like everything was wasted the discusion that was made today is still valid.


I hate to bring up meta-gaming reasons, but usually when someone replaces in a "hopeless" situation (pun intended) such as this, they're usually demoralized town.
...
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 30 2013 20:34 GMT
#984
If I hear another thing about TK, my mind is going to melt.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2013 20:34 GMT
#985
On August 31 2013 05:28 marvellosity wrote:
Hi, I'm back and sweaty, you lucky things.

Question one: why is Firm asking about sciberbia's meta with regards to posting 'formally' and what have you when it's been talked about at least twice in the thread already?

Secondly, remember when you talked, rayn, about how you just shout louder than the rest of people and get your lynch just by shouting? Well, hi there.

Couple of things I agreed with as I read them, can't remember who said them now - I think Onegu is looking better than I thought earlier in the cycle, his posting seems more sincere and pointed than his first, quite wishy washy post.

Also agree with... Hapa? on oats' 'half-heartedness'. Syl doesn't look great to me but he's posting too much for Syl to be a particularly good lynch today, I think I agree with yamato on that one.

Slammy has posted but nothing of substance, I still think he's a pretty good lynch. Gonna check me out some Oats stuffs. Here for talkies as well.

my case on Tutankhamon is totally valid and he is scum. Why are you ignoring commenting on it?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2013 20:34 GMT
#986
that's not even meta-gaming. do you have anything to support that hunch other than gut? Given 75% of replacements will be town anyway? Would a host even let a townie replace out for being 'demoralised'? I don't think so, do you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2013 20:35 GMT
#987
On August 31 2013 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 05:28 marvellosity wrote:
Hi, I'm back and sweaty, you lucky things.

Question one: why is Firm asking about sciberbia's meta with regards to posting 'formally' and what have you when it's been talked about at least twice in the thread already?

Secondly, remember when you talked, rayn, about how you just shout louder than the rest of people and get your lynch just by shouting? Well, hi there.

Couple of things I agreed with as I read them, can't remember who said them now - I think Onegu is looking better than I thought earlier in the cycle, his posting seems more sincere and pointed than his first, quite wishy washy post.

Also agree with... Hapa? on oats' 'half-heartedness'. Syl doesn't look great to me but he's posting too much for Syl to be a particularly good lynch today, I think I agree with yamato on that one.

Slammy has posted but nothing of substance, I still think he's a pretty good lynch. Gonna check me out some Oats stuffs. Here for talkies as well.

my case on Tutankhamon is totally valid and he is scum. Why are you ignoring commenting on it?


because you're fucking awful and i'm bored of you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2013 20:36 GMT
#988
Like, actually look at his POSTING, hapa, not some terrible reason about hosts letting a demoralised townie replace out which never actually happens.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 30 2013 20:36 GMT
#989
Okay, idgaf, seriously. I am going to sauna. It's far more "productive" and relaxing than this shit.
Do not lynch alaskaslam, he is gonna turn up town. i might or might not be back before the deadline...msda
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 30 2013 20:36 GMT
#990
On August 31 2013 05:34 marvellosity wrote:
that's not even meta-gaming. do you have anything to support that hunch other than gut? Given 75% of replacements will be town anyway? Would a host even let a townie replace out for being 'demoralised'? I don't think so, do you?


I'm not saying those are the reasons that Hopeless gave. I'm more suggesting that a scum would be more likely to stick it out (regardless of what RL things are happening), where as a town would be more demoralized and such suspicion would be the tipping point for a replacement.

At this point, I'm more waiting on what slam has to say.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2013 20:38 GMT
#991
On August 31 2013 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, idgaf, seriously. I am going to sauna. It's far more "productive" and relaxing than this shit.
Do not lynch alaskaslam, he is gonna turn up town. i might or might not be back before the deadline...msda


Final, sensible answer because I could do with not shit-fitting with you.

Tutan's attempts to talk and rationalise with you look extremely townie to me. It reminds me a lot of Dr Who mafia, where I accused Sharrant of being mafia because of some terrible posts. We had some back and forth over several posts where Sharrant was very reasonable, and my scumread on him turned into a townread in the space of about half an hour. Tutan's attempts to engage with you feel very similar to me as that, except you're too blinded to step back and evaluate this, and you're stuck on your case which isn't a case.

Ok?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 30 2013 20:39 GMT
#992
On August 31 2013 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
Like, actually look at his POSTING, hapa, not some terrible reason about hosts letting a demoralised townie replace out which never actually happens.


Idunno. I just tend to give replacements a lot of leeway to prove themselves.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 30 2013 20:39 GMT
#993
Well here I thought lynching alakaslam was gonna end up as the most informative lynch...

Both him and tofu have promised more so I'm waiting for them now mostly. Slam sez he's reading onegu and tofu says he's catching up and will explain himself.

My problem with lynching syl is that he's voting for onegu right now which is kinda deluded town looking not really scummy. Ofc its just a mid-day vote so I probably shouldn't set much store by it.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2013 20:39 GMT
#994
On August 31 2013 05:39 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
Like, actually look at his POSTING, hapa, not some terrible reason about hosts letting a demoralised townie replace out which never actually happens.


Idunno. I just tend to give replacements a lot of leeway to prove themselves.


I tend to try to lynch mafia, and both parts of that slot have looked like mafia.

anyway, to the Oats filter!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 30 2013 20:39 GMT
#995
The problem is that everyone I'm suspicious of decided to fuck off and not post in the thread >>
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2013 20:40 GMT
#996
On August 31 2013 05:36 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 05:34 marvellosity wrote:
that's not even meta-gaming. do you have anything to support that hunch other than gut? Given 75% of replacements will be town anyway? Would a host even let a townie replace out for being 'demoralised'? I don't think so, do you?


I'm not saying those are the reasons that Hopeless gave. I'm more suggesting that a scum would be more likely to stick it out (regardless of what RL things are happening), where as a town would be more demoralized and such suspicion would be the tipping point for a replacement.

At this point, I'm more waiting on what slam has to say.


But you're suggesting that Hopeless lied to get a replacement then?

Because no host lets someone replace out because they're demoralised.

Come on Hapa.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 30 2013 20:41 GMT
#997
PS Sciberbia or debears wanted to know why oats isn't on my list (forget who).

Mostly its because I feel like if we give oats a bit more rope he could hang himself with it. I feel like I'll get a reasonable read on him given time whereas I'm not convinced my read on say FirmTofu is gonna advance so well and I find tofu just as scummy. Why lynch somebody who will eventually become transparent?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 30 2013 20:42 GMT
#998
On August 31 2013 05:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 05:36 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 31 2013 05:34 marvellosity wrote:
that's not even meta-gaming. do you have anything to support that hunch other than gut? Given 75% of replacements will be town anyway? Would a host even let a townie replace out for being 'demoralised'? I don't think so, do you?


I'm not saying those are the reasons that Hopeless gave. I'm more suggesting that a scum would be more likely to stick it out (regardless of what RL things are happening), where as a town would be more demoralized and such suspicion would be the tipping point for a replacement.

At this point, I'm more waiting on what slam has to say.


But you're suggesting that Hopeless lied to get a replacement then?

Because no host lets someone replace out because they're demoralised.

Come on Hapa.


Fair point. I'm just over-thinking this I guess. Regardless, I'm waiting for Slam to finish catching up.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 30 2013 20:49 GMT
#999
Well, this is awks. Oats looks like a decent lynch to me but he seems to have decided Slam is a good lynch, and I think Slam is the best lynch still. Which indicates there's possibly something wrong with one of the lynches, unless there's some funny brinksmanship going on.

Hapa, I agree with you about the half-heartedness, in that he asked to lynch you, me, and sn0 pretty casually. There's no mega Oats tunnel. His contradiction at the beginning of the game is still meh.

What i'm reading most into is this, so someone feel free to talk about this with me. Seems Hopeless came completely out of the blue. The problem is, Hopeless hadn't done anything new to warrant this, it was all old stuff. And relevantly, oats's first target was tutenkhamun, who was Hopeless' target, so he presumably agreed with him? Does it make sense him flipping from one to the other like that with basically nothing from hopeless in between? presumably he liked what hopeless had said about tuten as he agreed with his read? thoughts?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 30 2013 20:54 GMT
#1000
I'm really not sure what you mean by that last paragraph. What do you mean by "Hopeless came completely out of the blue."
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