EPTOn September 13 2013 02:29 Papa_Smurf wrote:
wait
RAYNP NEVER GOT SHOT?
wait
RAYNP NEVER GOT SHOT?
Correct. Although I'm not sure if he simple assumed he got shot or if he was willingly fakeclaiming. I wouldn't be surprised by either.
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Correct. Although I'm not sure if he simple assumed he got shot or if he was willingly fakeclaiming. I wouldn't be surprised by either. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Probably. + Show Spoiler + my sig > your sig | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On September 13 2013 04:07 Dandel Ion wrote: He was probably trying to get shot again. Probably. + Show Spoiler + my sig > your sig That would make more sense if he didn't try to lynch debears for a while for lying about getting shot n1. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
awful on my part | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On September 13 2013 04:22 Clarity_nl wrote: That would make more sense if he didn't try to lynch debears for a while for lying about getting shot n1. just let me keep my hopes and dreams plz | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 13 2013 04:22 Clarity_nl wrote: That would make more sense if he didn't try to lynch debears for a while for lying about getting shot n1. I explained in game why i claimed to be shot. It was a bad decision but i had my reasons for it. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
My mason claim: - To keep Oats, obvious townie alive. Definitely helped town, would have helped more if Oats was not a retard and would have realized he should go with the plan. Mafia could have shot me (because scum don't want confirmed town alive). Even if i was scum Oats should have gone with it, because if he get's shot that will point fingers on me as he'll flip non-mason. My getting shot claim: There was a possibility scum hit doc's target and debears was making a big play. I could not believe he was a vet as i was (and i was correct lol). Bad decision, but whatevs. Me claiming to be shot lead me after marv on D2-D3 start. HE was very eager in knowing what happened with the shots N1 and N2. Scum tend to want to know if there really is SK or not. Town doesn't care so much, they need to kill any anti-town. My SK claim last night: I tried to fake i am SK so that Onegu would think he loses unless he shoots me. :D I am not saying the "me getting shot " claim was good, i think every other claim was. They did not hurt the town (as didn't the shot claim), one helped, one could have. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
the mafia benefits from an atmosphere of chaos, confusion, and lack of clarity (taken directly from this forum's "a general guide to mafia") Its pretty self-evident that fake claiming creates an atmosphere of chaos, confusion, and lack of clarity. Not much else to say. The mason fake claim that you are so proud of btw was probably the worst of the lot. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Did someone "wrap their head around fakeclaims"? I did not get that impression, mason claim got buried as soon as D1 ended. On D2 all of the townies thought i was not shot for real (afaik). | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 13 2013 07:07 Clarity_nl wrote: Scum didn't attack you, they didn't have to. They didn't have to do anything. That's everyones point So i ruined the game for the town because everyone was looking into wrong places? How can you say so? Did someone look at me? Did someone search for SK? I am trying to understand what you are saying. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I'm saying you disrupted town flow and although I can't prove that it made things worse for town, it probably did. Just my opinion. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 13 2013 07:16 Clarity_nl wrote: I never said you ruined the game. I'm just saying fakeclaims should be used sparingly. I'm saying you disrupted town flow and although I can't prove that it made things worse for town, it probably did. Just my opinion. Yeah i understand you, but look it at my perspective (the D2 start): - I am a veteran - Doctor / his target does not get a notification of being hit - Someone breadcrumbs veteran - Someone claims being hit, roleblocked, and veteran What do i think? "No fucking way that guy is a vet. I AM THE VET! There is 1% possibility of 2 vets for town". I admit i should have thought about it. "Hmm.. What does that mean? Is he scum or what the hell? Is he fakeclaiming if doc's target was hit? wtf is going on?" I didn't. I just assumed "no fucking way debears is a vet, he is fakeclaiming, easy fakeclaim for scum, the dude is scum! I cc him, even if he is not scum mafia thinks there is a SK" Bad decision, but can you see why i did what i did? I had my reasons. And the outcome could have been worse. What if i get hit on N2? I claim vet. rofl, me or debears gets lynched. Whoever gets lynched the other one gets lynched the next day because of lying. ^_^ | ||
Papa_Smurf
336 Posts
On September 13 2013 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here is it: My mason claim: - To keep Oats, obvious townie alive. Definitely helped town, would have helped more if Oats was not a retard and would have realized he should go with the plan. Mafia could have shot me (because scum don't want confirmed town alive). Even if i was scum Oats should have gone with it, because if he get's shot that will point fingers on me as he'll flip non-mason. My getting shot claim: There was a possibility scum hit doc's target and debears was making a big play. I could not believe he was a vet as i was (and i was correct lol). Bad decision, but whatevs. Me claiming to be shot lead me after marv on D2-D3 start. HE was very eager in knowing what happened with the shots N1 and N2. Scum tend to want to know if there really is SK or not. Town doesn't care so much, they need to kill any anti-town. My SK claim last night: I tried to fake i am SK so that Onegu would think he loses unless he shoots me. :D I am not saying the "me getting shot " claim was good, i think every other claim was. They did not hurt the town (as didn't the shot claim), one helped, one could have. Why are you trying to justify these decisions? 1) Oats was lynched the next day because his play was scummy. YOu set us back a whole day and forced a lurker lynch. Also, you fakeclaimed mason, which made oats even more suspicious. How in the hell do you say that helped town? How does you claiming to be shot have anything to do with that? Marv was suspicious based on his lack of emotional investment, which other players saw after they saw my reads were geniune. You are making up reasoning to justify your play 2) The shot claim was terrible. You weren't shot, and thinking scum give up nk for a "big play" d1 makes very little sense. A mislynch on a freakin lurker is best case scenario for scum. It gives no reads. Why would scum try to fuck that up? 3) Sk claim - when there is already 3p. YEah. Totally believable | ||
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