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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On September 12 2013 20:55 marvellosity wrote: Towns will lynch players like you on d1 for all eternity. Which is why it's a townie's responsibility to not play badly. I don't disagree marv. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
I mean obviously you weren't a great lynch because you were town, but as Day 1s go it was a pretty standard lynch. Lynch some useless dude saying weird things, maybe he'll flip mafia, maybe he won't. In so many games recently people keep saying "this d1 lynch was terrible" when really they're quite normal to go down like this. A terrible day 1 lynch is when you lynch someone who you can think about and say they had some clear towntells | ||
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
On September 12 2013 20:59 marvellosity wrote: Then why are you arguing you were a bad lynch? I mean obviously you weren't a great lynch because you were town, but as Day 1s go it was a pretty standard lynch. Lynch some useless dude saying weird things, maybe he'll flip mafia, maybe he won't. In so many games recently people keep saying "this d1 lynch was terrible" when really they're quite normal to go down like this. A terrible day 1 lynch is when you lynch someone who you can think about and say they had some clear towntells We can agree to disagree. I'm not going to argue with you. I was a bad lynch because of my meta. I was a bad lynch because lurker lynches are nearly always a bad idea on Day 1. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 12 2013 20:59 marvellosity wrote: Then why are you arguing you were a bad lynch? I mean obviously you weren't a great lynch because you were town, but as Day 1s go it was a pretty standard lynch. Lynch some useless dude saying weird things, maybe he'll flip mafia, maybe he won't. In so many games recently people keep saying "this d1 lynch was terrible" when really they're quite normal to go down like this. A terrible day 1 lynch is when you lynch someone who you can think about and say they had some clear towntells *cough* oats *cough* :D | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On September 12 2013 20:55 marvellosity wrote: Towns will lynch players like you on d1 for all eternity. Which is why it's a townie's responsibility to not play badly. Basically this. No one should play day 1 that way, and if it does happen it should be a policy lynch. We need to get over people playing that way before day 1s will improve. So FT, you're part of the problem, not the people lynching you. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
Also @Firm Pushing my lynch in P4 even you know my meta  .Man I played so bad at mylo, I should have never switched to yamato, I, just park my vote on sn0 make my points on why he is scum and peace out. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
And if I say I'll replace/modkill him, I'll replace/modkill him. Have you heard me say anything different? No. Until you do, you should play under the assumption that he's gone. You didn't listen to what I explicitly said, your fault. You plan your all-in on a dead guy, your fault. | ||
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
(By 'average likelihood' I mean a probability equal to the number of scum divided by the total number of players.) (The other criteria is 'does lynching them tell you anything in the case they flip town', which I won't comment on.) | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Maybe even better than decent. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 12 2013 21:32 Dandel Ion wrote: I PM'd him after his dead-posts and told him to stfu. And if I say I'll replace/modkill him, I'll replace/modkill him. Have you heard me say anything different? No. Until you do, you should play under the assumption that he's gone. You didn't listen to what I explicitly said, your fault. You plan your all-in on a dead guy, your fault. We were setting up slam/sn0 long before slam decided not to vote on day 2, to be fair. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On September 12 2013 21:34 Aquanim wrote: Question: If somebody's day 1 play leaves them at about null in terms of alignment, and they are of about average skill, doesn't that make them at worst an average lynch? I mean, given that you have to lynch someone for the game to move forward, lynching somebody who has an average likelihood to flip scum doesn't seem that bad. (By 'average likelihood' I mean a probability equal to the number of scum divided by the total number of players.) (The other criteria is 'does lynching them tell you anything in the case they flip town', which I won't comment on.) I think there is much to do on day 1, regardless of what others say. No one plays perfectly, and that includes scum. People who think day 1 is useless are sorely mistaken, I think it sets the tone for the rest of the game, regardless of town/scum getting lynched. That said, an "average" lynch is pretty decent on day 1. At the very least, town should never lynch an outspoken (but wrong) player. A semi-lurker that doesn't look townie is a decent target. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Whatever, can't win them all. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 12 2013 21:39 Dandel Ion wrote: That's fine, but continuing to set him up after he failed to vote was a poor decision, and I just want to emphasise that it was your guys' fuck up, not mine. Generally speaking (and you obviously have a different philosophy, not gonna comment on right/wrong) I think modkills should be an absolute last resort, especially when it directly affects the gameplay. Given Slam was ready to carry on posting, I think letting him carry on was the best decision for not affecting the game. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
And then he got banned from TL anyways. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
I knew something was off with you >_> | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
People jumped on it as terrible straight away but I thought it had some merit to it. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On September 12 2013 21:51 Clarity_nl wrote: I was actually very curious about the "I'm just looking at hapa and marv today" approach. People jumped on it as terrible straight away but I thought it had some merit to it. Of course it did. If I accurately figure out those two every game, it's likely that we win the game. | ||
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