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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
September 06 2013 14:59 GMT
#2401
Sylencia's timing of the claim was really bad as town, him choking right after tha claim was bad, he was obviously scum even without the fakeclaim thingy. I don't know what people here think, that was so utterly bad i couldn't see that coming from a townie.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
September 06 2013 15:01 GMT
#2402
On September 06 2013 23:59 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2013 23:48 Onegu wrote:
On September 06 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean, you tried to convince us to have 4 votes on Sylencia, and 4 votes on marv in case Sylencia is town.
If you were sure he is scum why did you not try to convince all of us to vote for Sylencia instead?


Because people said they believed his claim and didnt want to vote like that, so I thought up the safest way to kill him to allay peoples fears.

Do you think syl is scum?

Yes i think Sylencia is scum. I already said that.
Actually, this makes you most likely town. If you were scum you would know marv & Syl are scum, why would you make a stupid suggestion like that (that would not even get a townie lynched because Sylencia is scum and fakeclaiming).

So you can't basically be scum.



Thats why I kept asking you. I believed syl is scum, marv had a good chance of flipping scum also, thats why I was ok suggesting the 4-4 vote. I was more confident in my syl read then marv.

yeah it makes sense.
Do you think Sno is scum? Why not yamato?

What do you think of thrawn's posts on marv D3? I think he is pretty likely to be town.
What do you think Sno's posts on D3 and his reaction to the flip? I think he is town based on those, and based on his attitude towards me (he does that as town - calls me retarded and not worth listening to).
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 06 2013 15:15 GMT
#2403
On September 07 2013 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 23:59 Onegu wrote:
On September 06 2013 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2013 23:48 Onegu wrote:
On September 06 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean, you tried to convince us to have 4 votes on Sylencia, and 4 votes on marv in case Sylencia is town.
If you were sure he is scum why did you not try to convince all of us to vote for Sylencia instead?


Because people said they believed his claim and didnt want to vote like that, so I thought up the safest way to kill him to allay peoples fears.

Do you think syl is scum?

Yes i think Sylencia is scum. I already said that.
Actually, this makes you most likely town. If you were scum you would know marv & Syl are scum, why would you make a stupid suggestion like that (that would not even get a townie lynched because Sylencia is scum and fakeclaiming).

So you can't basically be scum.



Thats why I kept asking you. I believed syl is scum, marv had a good chance of flipping scum also, thats why I was ok suggesting the 4-4 vote. I was more confident in my syl read then marv.

yeah it makes sense.
Do you think Sno is scum? Why not yamato?

What do you think of thrawn's posts on marv D3? I think he is pretty likely to be town.
What do you think Sno's posts on D3 and his reaction to the flip? I think he is town based on those, and based on his attitude towards me (he does that as town - calls me retarded and not worth listening to).



I plan on going over both filters tomorrow, and the sn0 thing and you isnt that something he could do as scum? That seems like something easy to copy as scum. I agree with you about thrawn though. It between sn0 and yamato to me. I have basicly been going off of my day 2 reads, and that is why I need to reread everything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
September 06 2013 15:18 GMT
#2404
Okay good.
If you think Sno is scum, read him too. I think you and yamato had good points on him last night phase, but yamato's sudden 180 on you and Sno is really fishy. It could be he is scum, i am more interested in hearing if yamato gets into discussion with Hapa or not during this pahse. It's likely Hapa will die (rofl if scum hit him and he self-docs as it will give us a mislynch), and i got a feeling yamato is dodging to discuss the game with him (and with me) because he is mafia.
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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
September 06 2013 16:03 GMT
#2405
On September 06 2013 23:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sylencia's timing of the claim was really bad as town, him choking right after tha claim was bad, he was obviously scum even without the fakeclaim thingy. I don't know what people here think, that was so utterly bad i couldn't see that coming from a townie.


You have to stop thinking not being there = choking. Would it really take 3 hours for me to find an appropriate response to you? No, it would take 2 minutes, I just indulged in too much Dota 2. What you do in your time doesn't reflect what everyone else does. Just saying.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 06 2013 16:04 GMT
#2406
Oh yay Syl is here.

Whats up with ur fakeclaim?
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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
September 06 2013 16:05 GMT
#2407
as in the VT thing?
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
September 06 2013 16:52 GMT
#2408
Eh, I asked the mods, things happened but I'm not allowed to talk about what did or didn't happen in terms of the VT thing other than what we already know (I didn't have anything before)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
September 06 2013 17:01 GMT
#2409
Stop about the fakeclaim thing. That is not going to do any good/bad compared to what it has done.

Who is scum Sylencia?
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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
September 06 2013 17:09 GMT
#2410
Onegu, Yamato, Sn0 - pick 2.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
September 06 2013 17:15 GMT
#2411
reasoning?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 06 2013 17:16 GMT
#2412
On September 07 2013 02:09 Sylencia wrote:
Onegu, Yamato, Sn0 - pick 2.

So you want us to roll the dice twice and hope that we hit scum both times otherwise we lose?

You don't sound like you want to solve the game and win here. If nothing else you should be able to narrow down at least ONE certain scum?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2013 17:23 GMT
#2413
On September 06 2013 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey yamato are you here?

I am now

if you ask non-stupid questions, I might even entertain a conversation.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
September 06 2013 17:28 GMT
#2414
On September 07 2013 02:23 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey yamato are you here?

I am now

if you ask non-stupid questions, I might even entertain a conversation.

Who is scum and why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
September 06 2013 17:28 GMT
#2415
Also, even if you think my questions are not reasonable, can you answer Hapa's?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2013 17:30 GMT
#2416
On September 07 2013 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also, even if you think my questions are not reasonable, can you answer Hapa's?

what does Hapa question?

All he keeps saying about me is that I'm "useless" when I've probably put in more time and effort this game than he has.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
September 06 2013 17:32 GMT
#2417
You are not even looking at what "confirmed townies" post. What gives?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2013 17:39 GMT
#2418
On September 07 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are not even looking at what "confirmed townies" post. What gives?

If there's some question I missed, you can tell me instead of being an obtuse asshat.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
September 06 2013 17:45 GMT
#2419
Fine, i'll do the work for you (while you "answered him" without answering).
These posts:
On September 05 2013 11:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:26 yamato77 wrote:
On September 05 2013 07:16 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Yamato

When you get back, I need an answer to the following:

1) How is it that your Sn0 read is so different from yesterday?
2) Your votecount analysis seems really shallow. You spend zero time looking into the context of those posts and take them all at face value. You should realize that voting has been chaotic and wishy-washy as a whole this game.
3) I really don't understand the complete inability for us to have a conversation this game. For example, this post...
On September 03 2013 08:32 yamato77 wrote:
On September 03 2013 08:28 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 03 2013 08:22 yamato77 wrote:
On September 03 2013 08:16 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 03 2013 08:15 yamato77 wrote:
On September 03 2013 07:57 sciberbia wrote:
@yamato
Were you ever planning on helping me lynch your SCUMREAD oats?

This is why I pushed Hapascum

Nobody listen to scumhunter extraodinaire Yams who is so good he's already dead in Aperture


So are you going to talk to me about this scumread or not?

I saw your response. I am not impressed. I don't think you read my posts too deeply if you think that was the only point against you.


Well your other point is that "I spent no time discussion lynch targets", which I find to be pretty false given that I led the consolidation at the end of today (even if it was a mislynch). I was on the fence for most of the day because I've been pretty damn lost this game read wise. Normally I can tunnel a player and get the information I want, but players like yourself, Oats, Alakasam, Onegu, and others I need posts from either are horrendously inactive or absent from the thread when I'm here or something.

SO yeah, my current view on the game is that scum is somewhere in the lurkers and that we have a circle-jerk of active townies who are willing to post. And that's a problem given how many goddamn inactives there are.

As for my read on you... well what's wrong about it? You've been useless to your own admission this game:
On September 02 2013 10:04 yamato77 wrote:
On September 02 2013 09:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Yamato, why are you being so useless this game? Is this a work-related thing? Because I've never seen a town-game from you where you've had such abysmal thread-presence.

I really haven't played town in a while, and certainly not with this group of players who I mostly find difficult to read.

Generally, it's easy enough for me to get some townreads and go from there, but I have too many question marks and not enough time to really pin them all down.

@scib I will give those reads, probably in the morning. I am unfortunately out of time right now.


... and I'm at a loss what to think of you. You're asleep/working when I'm active in the thread, and tunnel me when I'm gone.

I'll be on for a while tonight. If you're town, we'll resolve this.

...you made after you posted your case against me, seemingly promising to show some effort and talk to me. Instead you fucked off, did god knows what, and came back the next morning and tunneled me while I was gone.

You seemed so much more interested in calling me scum than actually trying to determine my allignment.

You know why my Sn0 read is different, I fucking explained it. And yes, the vote analysis is shallow because it is just an indicator of POSSIBLE mafia. I say in the post that it's inconclusive because it is. I'm not all the way done reforming my reads.


No, you didn't explain at all why your Sn0 read is different. Let me walk you through your filter:

Before my night actions, you were all aboard the hapa/sn0 scumteam train:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426387&currentpage=91#1815

Then you "mulligan" your reads, and post your vote-analysis, in which you call Sn0 "possible mafia"
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426387&currentpage=99#1961

... after which you conclude that 3 other people are scum. Still nothing about your sn0 town read.

So no, you did not explain why your Sn0 read is different. Ever.


Show nested quote +
Rayn flip flopping about my alignment is fucking fishy, dude. That's why I voted for the guy with the 20 page filter who has been fucking around the whole damn game.


So why is it scummy as opposed to Rayn being absurdly emotional?

On September 05 2013 11:33 Hapahauli wrote:
I stand corrected. You say this about Sn0:

Show nested quote +
Sn0:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19635723

“consolidation vote” on Slam

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19637580

“consolidation vote” on FT

Both instances, doesn’t seem to care which of them gets lynched. Mentions Syl/Oats as other people he MIGHT vote for at other odd times, but never makes a real push himself. Squirms out of voting for Syl because of something Marv said. Possible mafia.


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On September 05 2013 03:25 yamato77 wrote:
I don't feel good about lynching Hapa because you're probably right about the doctor claim. That, and I've played like shit until now and I think I should completely ignore my biases against him.

Not lynching thrawn. He sucks ass at mafia and I highly doubt he would be able to pull this off.

Sylencia actually looks the best out of every save Hapa/Thrawn on the voting. That combined with his general higher activity than normal makes me think he's town.

I looked hard at you last night but I have begun to seriously doubt that you're actually mafia. You seemed to play just like this in Persona.

that really only leaves Marv/Rayn/Onegu as possible mafia, and I can believe any one of them capable of playing the way they have this game as mafia. I had townreads on them before because of how much they fuck up the thread, but I realize that Rayn is known for doing that kind of thing as scum with his scumbuddy before.


Then you threw in a line here about Sn0. However that still doesnt' really tell me anything. How is the same? Does "similar" play preclude Sn0's scumgame?


Also who is scum?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 06 2013 17:47 GMT
#2420
The point of a fucking mulligan is to change your reads.

Jesus.
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