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On September 06 2013 18:32 Hapahauli wrote:
I think asking yourself "what's the mafia motivation behind the claim" is a wrong way of looking at this. The question should be "is mafia capable of doing such a play?"
Mafia have many options at LYLO to fuck with the town. A fake claim is one of them. It might seem like an "unnecessary" play, but it's a possible play (and one we have a lot of evidence for). That's what playing mafia's all about anyway - making enough "unnecessary" plays to distract people from catching on to you pushing your objectives.
Okay. I can see it being done but I don't think it was a good idea. I think I will be 100% on syl after I get over how many times I called him town recently.
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Also Alakaslam you will be missed 90 days is so long T_T
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On September 06 2013 10:05 Hapahauli wrote:
You're preaching to the choir man.
Again, I agree with you.
You agree that me saying Rayn is a better scum player than a town player doesn't make any sense?
I know that's a lie >_>
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Really, this whole thing about "useless Yamato" that you've been spouting off the whole game is bullshit, IMO
It takes real mental fortitude to not scream at you for how lazy you are when discerning my alignment, if you are indeed town.
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And again, the ONLY reason you're not #1 on my shitlist is because you have a relatively believable doctor claim that I can't find any weakness in.
I hate that the biggest indicator that HAPAHAULI is town is that he fucking claimed blue. It reeks, Hapa.
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On September 06 2013 18:55 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 18:32 Hapahauli wrote:
I think asking yourself "what's the mafia motivation behind the claim" is a wrong way of looking at this. The question should be "is mafia capable of doing such a play?"
Mafia have many options at LYLO to fuck with the town. A fake claim is one of them. It might seem like an "unnecessary" play, but it's a possible play (and one we have a lot of evidence for). That's what playing mafia's all about anyway - making enough "unnecessary" plays to distract people from catching on to you pushing your objectives. Okay. I can see it being done but I don't think it was a good idea. I think I will be 100% on syl after I get over how many times I called him town recently.
I think i have to revisit Onegu's argument of putting 4 votes on Sylencia and 4 on marv and then townies F5ing here at the deadline. Could he make such a dumb suggestion as mafia?
I am pretty sure Sno & thrawn are town, for what i have said earlier and due to their response to the flip.
The question is, which one of Onegu / yamato is scum? I would have hoped yamato would have started playing instead of bashing Hapa. That makes no sense to me, what's the point? I still do not like his backflip on reads. That matter has still not been explained in any way and to me it seems like he is just dodging answering Hapahauli until he dies.
Onegu has some pretty strong town-tells in his play. Then again i do not know if he does those things as scum as i don't remember a game i have played with him where he was scum. I have in the past games talked about his town!passiveness and i think he could be able to fake that as scum. Then there is his awkward suggestion to the 4-4 voting (which - for real - would have been the only "strategy" that could ensure scum win if Sylencia was town).
Look at these things after night phase. Personally i am leaning on yamato being scum because of his dodgy attitude towards questions aked from him.
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Onegu why did you suggest the F5 battle for last night? You were not even gonna be here, so you would not have to take responsibility over what happens. How does that make sense?
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Because I was so sure syl was scum. And if his claim is real (which Im 99% sure it isnt) then it would take the entire scum team to move last minute which if countered would out the entire scum team and as long as there were a few attentive townies it would be countered. And last night was the only day we could verify his claim. We cant lynch him today if you believe he is town like 60%-40% because we just lose.
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Why is sn0 not in your list of possible final scum?
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Because i don't think he is scum.
The only way mafia could have won yesterday, given that marv and Syl were the candidates was that we do your 4-4 suggestion. 2 mafia on marv, 1 mafia on Syl. All mafia vote switch at the last second onto Hapa, if town fucks up, no doctor left, kill anyone but me and GG. How can you bank the game on some bullshit F5 battle if there is a possibility that Sylencia is town? If you thought Sylencia is sure scum, why did you not just try to convince townies to vote for him instead of doing some half-arsed plan?
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On September 06 2013 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i don't think he is scum.
The only way mafia could have won yesterday, given that marv and Syl were the candidates was that we do your 4-4 suggestion. 2 mafia on marv, 1 mafia on Syl. All mafia vote switch at the last second onto Hapa, if town fucks up, no doctor left, kill anyone but me and GG. How can you bank the game on some bullshit F5 battle if there is a possibility that Sylencia is town? If you thought Sylencia is sure scum, why did you not just try to convince townies to vote for him instead of doing some half-arsed plan?
Thats what I was doing trying to convince people to vote him. I explained this. He should die tomorrow. He is scum.
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Rayn do you think Syl is scum?
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Ofc i do. We are murdering him tomorrow either way.
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I mean, you tried to convince us to have 4 votes on Sylencia, and 4 votes on marv in case Sylencia is town.
If you were sure he is scum why did you not try to convince all of us to vote for Sylencia instead?
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On September 06 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean, you tried to convince us to have 4 votes on Sylencia, and 4 votes on marv in case Sylencia is town.
If you were sure he is scum why did you not try to convince all of us to vote for Sylencia instead?
Because people said they believed his claim and didnt want to vote like that, so I thought up the safest way to kill him to allay peoples fears.
Do you think syl is scum?
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On September 06 2013 23:48 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean, you tried to convince us to have 4 votes on Sylencia, and 4 votes on marv in case Sylencia is town.
If you were sure he is scum why did you not try to convince all of us to vote for Sylencia instead? Because people said they believed his claim and didnt want to vote like that, so I thought up the safest way to kill him to allay peoples fears. Do you think syl is scum?
Yes i think Sylencia is scum. I already said that.
Actually, this makes you most likely town. If you were scum you would know marv & Syl are scum, why would you make a stupid suggestion like that (that would not even get a townie lynched because Sylencia is scum and fakeclaiming).
So you can't basically be scum.
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On September 06 2013 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 23:48 Onegu wrote:On September 06 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean, you tried to convince us to have 4 votes on Sylencia, and 4 votes on marv in case Sylencia is town.
If you were sure he is scum why did you not try to convince all of us to vote for Sylencia instead? Because people said they believed his claim and didnt want to vote like that, so I thought up the safest way to kill him to allay peoples fears. Do you think syl is scum? Yes i think Sylencia is scum. I already said that. Actually, this makes you most likely town. If you were scum you would know marv & Syl are scum, why would you make a stupid suggestion like that (that would not even get a townie lynched because Sylencia is scum and fakeclaiming). So you can't basically be scum.
Thats why I kept asking you. I believed syl is scum, marv had a good chance of flipping scum also, thats why I was ok suggesting the 4-4 vote. I was more confident in my syl read then marv.
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