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On August 21 2013 19:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn, so you think WoS is bullshitting about his supposed gambit? What makes you think that? What gambit? He pretended to be blue and then before the night he says he is vanilla townie? Damn! Those scums must be confused now. Also, if he thinks rayn is scum and bluehunting, shouldn't WoS continue pretending he is blue? PS: my picture has a Rainbow, Snowman and a swirly WaveofShadows. *wink wink* | ||
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jow rayn. WoS achieved to gain some scumpoints but Rainbows and The Snowman are more scummy in less posts. | ||
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On August 21 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why wouldn't i? Scum KP is not fixed at 1 and there is a possibility of SK. Meh, Titanic had 1 KP and was 10 vs 4. | ||
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On August 21 2013 12:44 WaveofShadow wrote: + Show Spoiler + I started to read through Sn0's filter but I think that's going to require some actual thought and a little more time on my part. In the meantime since Geript so nicely brought up that my 'let's not talk N0' post was bullshit, guess what? It was. I didn't really have much of an overarching plan going into that post but I did want to see how various people reacted to it. Geript brings up a good point about Crazy---problem is he's apparently new (at least to TL, I don't know about mafia in general). Fuba sees right through me though, and I fucking love playing with this guy. On August 21 2013 08:05 mkfuba07 wrote: @WoS: I assume you're implying that you breadcrumbed something about your role (which I would presume is veteran, due to the emphasis on rayn wanting a shot used on you), and you believe rayn found it and is trying to take advantage of that situation to get rid of a vig shot (if there is one), the veteran (if you are it), and your usual town play in one night. I guess you could be any blue role in this situation, but since you emphasized rayn wanting you shot (as opposed to lynched tomorrow) I guessed veteran. I probably overlooked something, but I try (with limited success) to not speculate on things I have no way of knowing. Hot/cold? What are your thoughts on Rainbows? He's sort of got the thought process right, though with a few details that are wrong. First of all I didn't breadcrumb anything: I will claim right here. I am sadly but a simple VT. My play though certainly looked like blue play, wouldn't you say? As a blue I certainly don't want to draw attention to myself on the first night so I can put whatever ability I've got to good use---I suppose in that way you could call my 'not talking at night' post a breadcrumb, albeit a fake one. I make my post and the thread direction abruptly changes---Rayn begins to incessantly push me from that point on. On August 20 2013 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, seriously. Why did you suggest that we should not talk? Why are you avoiding the question? I can clearly show from your filter in CCM that you did start scumhunting on N0 when hosts told you also roles can start acting then. You clearly thought you were wrong and staerted acting in the correct manner as town. Why are you proposing the same anti-town idea here again? Just answer me and do not run in circles around the question. I have no good read on Koshi yet. Why am I avoiding the question? Not only do I not want to reveal my mini-gambit this early as it is generating good discussion (and not only do I doubt a tunnely Rayn would even bother to believe me at this point since it is apparent in thread that he has 'found scum'), but I don't want to explain it's because I as a 'blue' do not want my identity revealed. Now Rayn is a smart player. He knows something is up obviously. The thing is, what he is doing? It's scum bluefishing. Not scumhunting. This is exactly why he calls for a vig shot---if he can paint the blue towny as scum then the scumteam doesn't even have to waste a shot. If I'm vet they can RB me and I'll die as well. Have doubts that he is scum simply bluefishing under the guise of tunnel town? On August 21 2013 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: If WoS claims something shoot him regardless. That does not make him town. I have no blue role to claim but he has already thought ahead of time that I will attempt to use it to get myself out long before it is necessary. He knows exactly what I was thinking with my earlier comment. His joke of a case (which basically amounts to me being mad at me for not answering him lolol) is a sham to hide the fact that he expected me to defend myself with the defense he listed at the bottom of his case, when in fact that is an absolutely shit defense and he would have very likely called me out on it for such. On August 21 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is why WaveofShadow is mafia: This is one of the first posts from him in CCM: (Here is a link to the post for the following: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407685¤tpage=11#210 ) After that, when hosts confirm that roles can also act on N0, WoS retracts from his stance and starts scumhunting. If you read the game from that point on it can clearly be seen. This is what i call WoS out for: WoS does not want to answer me, he keeps dodging the question, and this is all i get out of him: Look at the answer. He is saying "look, i am playing to my town meta as i played the same way in CCM". The answer i was looking for (in case he was town was in this post (from CCM): This is a perfectly fine explanation for his behaviour. Why does he not say that here, in this game? Why is he not trying to explain why town!WoS would bring that "let's not talk on N0" stuff again? Answer is: - Because he is mafia and he is trying to play the "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game". - He didn't even think of needing to have an explanation because of "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game" would be enough. - If he was town he could, should and would explain himself. Lynch D1. Or better, vig N0. Why would I use the exact same explanation for a bad post in a second game when he himself says he expects that I should have learned from the first time I did it? Ridiculous. Another point I have already stated earlier---the way he was playing when he stated he was going to ignore me and everything I say because I didn't take him up on the chances he gave me---is that good town play in any way? The post is a little disjointed but everything in here points to Rayn scum. Discuss accordingly, especially those of you who view Rayn to be town. DP I'm looking at you. Let me recap how I see this WoS case on rayn. So guys I wanted to look into The Snowman but i cba. Geript is a really cool guy and understands me completely. So, I made a post to bait rections but I have still no clue about how I am going to interpret those actions. That cool guy geript made a good point on Crazy though. But let's not go too crazy about Crazy because he is new. Another really really cool cuz is mkfuba07. He gets me completely except everything he said is wrong and I am just a VT. But didn't I really fake being blue well? So, because I faked being blue so well I am going to tell my scumread rayn that I am actually just a VT so he can go and search after the real blue role for the first nightkill. So rayn is scumhunting and is also trying to get the vigi shoot me. This means that town loses 2 blue skills. Rayn is so certain I am a blue role that I will get roleblocked and in case I am the Veteran I will die this night anyway. But let me tell all of you this 28 hours before deadline because as a VT I really don't want to get RB+shot at me in the first night because that would be so bad for town. But WAIT I actually don't have a bluerole and rayn knows this!!!! So he plans ahead and already gives the reasons I am going to give to defend myself as a VT. But WAIT AGAIN Why would I want to give the same reasons anyway? So joke is on him. I don't make a bad opening post two games in a row. + Show Spoiler + Except I did. But guys this time to see reactions. Please ignore that I actually don't follow up on those reactions at all So please discuss why rayn is scum guys. Because this case is full of shit and I know it. DP I am looking at you to help me out here. | ||
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really really cool cuz = really really cool guy So rayn is scumhunting = So rayn is bluehunting | ||
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I really want to see WoS explain to me 50% of his case against rayn was about how rayn was making the vigi shoot him because scum has a RB. | ||
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On August 21 2013 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi you need to work also on knowing who is left in the game and who is not. Other than that your post is spot on. w0t? I know DP is dead. Last sentence of my post was paraphrasing the last post of WoS his case. | ||
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On August 21 2013 23:28 yamato77 wrote: I'm really tired of reading WoS vs. Rayn. I don't think either of you are scum and neither is going anywhere with his case on the other. Koshi is highly suspect for just jumping on the WoS wagon without so much as a second thought. I'll forgive you because you probably didn't see my picture yet. Also, I gave a second thought in the same post as my vote D: | ||
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On August 21 2013 23:33 yamato77 wrote: Your "second thought" isn't to consider that WoS might be town, it is that two other people are scum. It doesn't really qualify as a real second thought about the alignment of WoS. All it proves is that you've moved beyond having no reads into the territory of accusing people already under suspicion. I said he gained some scumpoints. Not that he was 100% scum. How am I 100% certain he is scum. Also, it was the Snowman who jumped the Koshi wagon after my "fake-claim" who said I was 100% scum. Just saying. No need 2b hating. | ||
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You didn't "liked" the picture I uploaded. Blame the facebookgeneration. | ||
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On August 22 2013 00:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright guys I'm up. Rayn are we done here? I will not be shitting up the thread with you today; there are far more important things to be done. Not going to vote you either; I believe yamato/fuba/oats may have the right of it. I fell asleep before I could properly look into Sn0_man, sorry. It seems him and Rainbows may be the candidates for today? Townie points for WoS. | ||
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On August 22 2013 00:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Townie points for what? For retracting from the only conclusion he got from his "big play"? He still got many scummie points. No need to panic rayn. Let's see what he has to say about the snowman. Or rainbows magic. | ||
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The only reason why I don't want to lynch Rainbows atm is because DP had a good case on him. Which is a silly reason but meh. | ||
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