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+ Show Spoiler +On September 02 2013 11:56 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 11:42 Felkyr wrote:
Did you already explain why you tried to dissuade AG from using his power? Please do so.
Yes, I already explained this. Read my filter. Show nested quote +
I also have made no attempt to offer an opinion on geript's alignment. I have thought about it, but everything I could think of has already been said one way or the other. It's complicated and I don't think I could figure it out at the moment. Cakepie might think the same. I find this a useless/weak reason to attack Cakepie. I do not like it.
You're a completely new player in a fairly ridiculous themed game and indicated day 1 that you wouldn't lynch geript. That's understandable. cakepie seems to at least have a moderate understanding of how to play and has played in more than 1 game, had access to coaches, and observed games beforehand.
Would it be this?
On September 01 2013 08:28 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
Well I'd like to hear the reasons from each of them respectively Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb.
It's the only thing I found between a lot of rubble. It's already late and I'm sorry if there is anything else. I find this very weak... AG made very clear that he thought very deeply about the effect of his power. For me, this is a very bad reason to tell him not to use his power. Or you didn't read, or you didn't care.
On September 01 2013 09:17 HiroPro wrote:
role!=alignment. The fact that he can rig votes doesn't tell you anything about his alignment, especially not in a game like this -_-
You said this... I don't see anything else where YOU form an opinion of geript's alignment. What is your opinion? You have to be kidding, right?
And finally:
On September 02 2013 06:49 HiroPro wrote:Father...Father oh where have you gone. All I have left are your teachings and readings. When all I really wanted was your tools. sniff, it's ok. I'M NOT YOU, I CAN BE MY OWN MAN. Legendary, Revolutionary, Insurgent, Suicidal, Scribe, I will avenge you! I have your masks, this game can still be brown! Long Live The New Brown State! ![[image loading]](http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1751/brownflag.png)
I suppose you don't want to explain this to me? I'm new and don't know all this metagame stuff.
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On September 02 2013 12:06 Felkyr wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 02 2013 11:56 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 11:42 Felkyr wrote:
Did you already explain why you tried to dissuade AG from using his power? Please do so.
Yes, I already explained this. Read my filter. Show nested quote +
I also have made no attempt to offer an opinion on geript's alignment. I have thought about it, but everything I could think of has already been said one way or the other. It's complicated and I don't think I could figure it out at the moment. Cakepie might think the same. I find this a useless/weak reason to attack Cakepie. I do not like it.
You're a completely new player in a fairly ridiculous themed game and indicated day 1 that you wouldn't lynch geript. That's understandable. cakepie seems to at least have a moderate understanding of how to play and has played in more than 1 game, had access to coaches, and observed games beforehand. Would it be this? Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:28 HiroPro wrote:On September 01 2013 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
Well I'd like to hear the reasons from each of them respectively Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb. It's the only thing I found between a lot of rubble. It's already late and I'm sorry if there is anything else. I find this very weak... AG made very clear that he thought very deeply about the effect of his power. For me, this is a very bad reason to tell him not to use his power. Or you didn't read, or you didn't care. He may have thought it about, but Axlegreaser did not seem have the same opinion of BH/VE being very likely mafia that I did. Furthermore from the posts of his that I read he did seem to indicate that there would be some sort of small risk if there were multiple mafia there:
Why?Does that mean you dont trust them?(BTW I am happy if only two of the three are town)
"Thus unless you mistrust say 2 or more of them then I say (with more knowledge than you) that the plan is pro town and you should help me by allowing the max number of them to swap."
Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 09:17 HiroPro wrote:
role!=alignment. The fact that he can rig votes doesn't tell you anything about his alignment, especially not in a game like this -_- You said this... I don't see anything else where YOU form an opinion of geript's alignment. What is your opinion? You have to be kidding, right?
On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:
I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread).
And finally: Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 06:49 HiroPro wrote:Father...Father oh where have you gone. All I have left are your teachings and readings. When all I really wanted was your tools. sniff, it's ok. I'M NOT YOU, I CAN BE MY OWN MAN. Legendary, Revolutionary, Insurgent, Suicidal, Scribe, I will avenge you! I have your masks, this game can still be brown! Long Live The New Brown State! I suppose you don't want to explain this to me? I'm new and don't know all this metagame stuff.
There's no point in explaining. You wouldn't understand without having played in games with Chezinu.
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On September 02 2013 12:06 Felkyr wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 02 2013 11:56 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 11:42 Felkyr wrote:
Did you already explain why you tried to dissuade AG from using his power? Please do so.
Yes, I already explained this. Read my filter. Show nested quote +
I also have made no attempt to offer an opinion on geript's alignment. I have thought about it, but everything I could think of has already been said one way or the other. It's complicated and I don't think I could figure it out at the moment. Cakepie might think the same. I find this a useless/weak reason to attack Cakepie. I do not like it.
You're a completely new player in a fairly ridiculous themed game and indicated day 1 that you wouldn't lynch geript. That's understandable. cakepie seems to at least have a moderate understanding of how to play and has played in more than 1 game, had access to coaches, and observed games beforehand. Would it be this? Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:28 HiroPro wrote:On September 01 2013 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
Well I'd like to hear the reasons from each of them respectively Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb. It's the only thing I found between a lot of rubble. It's already late and I'm sorry if there is anything else. I find this very weak... AG made very clear that he thought very deeply about the effect of his power. For me, this is a very bad reason to tell him not to use his power. Or you didn't read, or you didn't care. Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 09:17 HiroPro wrote:
role!=alignment. The fact that he can rig votes doesn't tell you anything about his alignment, especially not in a game like this -_- You said this... I don't see anything else where YOU form an opinion of geript's alignment. What is your opinion? You have to be kidding, right? And finally: Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 06:49 HiroPro wrote:Father...Father oh where have you gone. All I have left are your teachings and readings. When all I really wanted was your tools. sniff, it's ok. I'M NOT YOU, I CAN BE MY OWN MAN. Legendary, Revolutionary, Insurgent, Suicidal, Scribe, I will avenge you! I have your masks, this game can still be brown! Long Live The New Brown State! I suppose you don't want to explain this to me? I'm new and don't know all this metagame stuff.
Felkyr, we should have a discussion. Firstly, I suggest just ignoring whatever stuff you don't understand when it comes to that. Confusing brown stuff is an intricate troll that really isn't worth the time to delve into.
Secondly, I see you have become more active which is good if you are town. I wanted (and still do) want to lynch you based on scummy D1 play and a gutread. Tell me: Who is mafia and should be lynched today? Take a hard stance on somebody -- there are a ton of scum out there, so pick me one and tell me why he is scum. If I like your answer, I might not lynch you today with the luxury of the double-lynch.
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On September 02 2013 12:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 12:06 Felkyr wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 02 2013 11:56 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 11:42 Felkyr wrote:
Did you already explain why you tried to dissuade AG from using his power? Please do so.
Yes, I already explained this. Read my filter. Show nested quote +
I also have made no attempt to offer an opinion on geript's alignment. I have thought about it, but everything I could think of has already been said one way or the other. It's complicated and I don't think I could figure it out at the moment. Cakepie might think the same. I find this a useless/weak reason to attack Cakepie. I do not like it.
You're a completely new player in a fairly ridiculous themed game and indicated day 1 that you wouldn't lynch geript. That's understandable. cakepie seems to at least have a moderate understanding of how to play and has played in more than 1 game, had access to coaches, and observed games beforehand. Would it be this? On September 01 2013 08:28 HiroPro wrote:On September 01 2013 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote:
Well I'd like to hear the reasons from each of them respectively Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb. It's the only thing I found between a lot of rubble. It's already late and I'm sorry if there is anything else. I find this very weak... AG made very clear that he thought very deeply about the effect of his power. For me, this is a very bad reason to tell him not to use his power. Or you didn't read, or you didn't care. On September 01 2013 09:17 HiroPro wrote:
role!=alignment. The fact that he can rig votes doesn't tell you anything about his alignment, especially not in a game like this -_- You said this... I don't see anything else where YOU form an opinion of geript's alignment. What is your opinion? You have to be kidding, right? And finally: On September 02 2013 06:49 HiroPro wrote:Father...Father oh where have you gone. All I have left are your teachings and readings. When all I really wanted was your tools. sniff, it's ok. I'M NOT YOU, I CAN BE MY OWN MAN. Legendary, Revolutionary, Insurgent, Suicidal, Scribe, I will avenge you! I have your masks, this game can still be brown! Long Live The New Brown State! I suppose you don't want to explain this to me? I'm new and don't know all this metagame stuff. Felkyr, we should have a discussion. Firstly, I suggest just ignoring whatever stuff you don't understand when it comes to that. Confusing brown stuff is an intricate troll that really isn't worth the time to delve into. Secondly, I see you have become more active which is good if you are town. I wanted (and still do) want to lynch you based on scummy D1 play and a gutread. Tell me: Who is mafia and should be lynched today? Take a hard stance on somebody -- there are a ton of scum out there, so pick me one and tell me why he is scum. If I like your answer, I might not lynch you today with the luxury of the double-lynch.
Judging from your tone, I'd say you think Hiropro is mafia, yes?
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Dude... that's like 'ages' before stuff happened, and you don't give an alignment opinion there either. It is before you said you can't determine his alignment based on the rig. You haven't given a decent alignment opinion yourself. And still you attack Cakepie for the same reason. You don't make sense to me.
##Vote: HirePro
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On September 02 2013 12:48 Felkyr wrote:
Dude... that's like 'ages' before stuff happened, and you don't give an alignment opinion there either. It is before you said you can't determine his alignment based on the rig. You haven't given a decent alignment opinion yourself. And still you attack Cakepie for the same reason. You don't make sense to me.
##Vote: HirePro
I agree that Hiro is scummy.
Tell me why in a bullet list so I know why you're voting him.
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gg dead bros.
VE died and flipped black but no role. This is portant. Could everybody in Black Mesa QT please post, and people report back to thread if any pseudonyms don't show up? Gives us a clue of someone who was unknown and in BM, and maybe indicated that BM don't flip with roles? Will do what I can to set aside paranoia concerning that for now, but if VE was the guy who claimed 3P in BM chat, that seems kinda nice.
If everyone in BM shows up, we know there's some other faction, but if someone specific is missing, we maybe know that VE was BM and maybe BM don't flip (could be someone in BM just not posting to make it seem like they're VE, which would be mean).
Still minorly interested in geript's thought process. I'll read hiro and some other folks when I'm more functional. Been scum with scumhiro a couple times, don't know that I have any super insight into him though.
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On September 02 2013 12:48 Felkyr wrote:
Dude... that's like 'ages' before stuff happened, and you don't give an alignment opinion there either. It is before you said you can't determine his alignment based on the rig. You haven't given a decent alignment opinion yourself. And still you attack Cakepie for the same reason. You don't make sense to me.
##Vote: HirePro
It should be fairly obvious from the points that I raise in that post, the manner that I talk about him, and the fact that I spent most of my day 1 attacking BH that I consider geript town. Just because I don't explicitly say "this guy is town" doesn't mean I haven't offered an opinion on him on or indicated what I think his alignment is -_- What "stuff" are you talking about other than the fact that he rigged the vote to kill BH? Has cakepie ever once said anything about geript's play this game?
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On September 02 2013 12:55 austinmcc wrote:
gg dead bros.
VE died and flipped black but no role. This is portant. Could everybody in Black Mesa QT please post, and people report back to thread if any pseudonyms don't show up? Gives us a clue of someone who was unknown and in BM, and maybe indicated that BM don't flip with roles? Will do what I can to set aside paranoia concerning that for now, but if VE was the guy who claimed 3P in BM chat, that seems kinda nice.
If everyone in BM shows up, we know there's some other faction, but if someone specific is missing, we maybe know that VE was BM and maybe BM don't flip (could be someone in BM just not posting to make it seem like they're VE, which would be mean).
Still minorly interested in geript's thought process. I'll read hiro and some other folks when I'm more functional. Been scum with scumhiro a couple times, don't know that I have any super insight into him though.
I bolded everything that doesn't help us find mafia.
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Hiro spent the latter part of day 1 shitting on BH. If Hiro is mafia, he knows BH is about to flip because either him and geript are mafia and he knows geript's powers, or Hiro knows geript is town and geript isn't lying. Does mafia Hiro take an E-dump all over BH before he flips town? Wifom?
Reading between the brown, I think the Cakepie idea has some merit and I'm willing to give it some thought. Cheesecake > Cake > Pie btw.
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Last aperture had both red and black mafia factions. Black Mesa is apparently no longer another mafia faction, but I'd like to know if we can figure out what it do. Plus, I hear that people not flipping at all ain't bueno. If dude who claimed 3P in BM chat no longer around, makes it more likely VE's no flip is connected to that and he was 3P, not some other faction.
Go read that last game. Black Mesa was a mafia faction that functioned around repositioning people in the player list. We have people who reposition people on the player list in Black Mesa this time around. If we can figure out whether we have multiple mafia factions or just VE as some unknown 3P, is good. Plus you are a dessert.
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On September 02 2013 13:12 austinmcc wrote:
Last aperture had both red and black mafia factions. Black Mesa is apparently no longer another mafia faction, but I'd like to know if we can figure out what it do. Plus, I hear that people not flipping at all ain't bueno. If dude who claimed 3P in BM chat no longer around, makes it more likely VE's no flip is connected to that and he was 3P, not some other faction.
Go read that last game. Black Mesa was a mafia faction that functioned around repositioning people in the player list. We have people who reposition people on the player list in Black Mesa this time around. If we can figure out whether we have multiple mafia factions or just VE as some unknown 3P, is good. Plus you are a dessert.
I don't think it's worth speculating on until we have something conrete. If someone from BM comes screaming in the thread about Tyranny and 3p's and multiple mafia factions then so be it. But let's not 3p speculate or whatever just yet -- kill a scum dude first plx.
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I didn't read last Aperture, but it's good to know it was a multiple mafia fact game. Something to keep in mind but it's not at the forefront.
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On September 02 2013 12:48 Felkyr wrote:
Dude... that's like 'ages' before stuff happened, and you don't give an alignment opinion there either. It is before you said you can't determine his alignment based on the rig. You haven't given a decent alignment opinion yourself. And still you attack Cakepie for the same reason. You don't make sense to me.
##Vote: HirePro
I still want to know the exact reasons for why you are voting Hiro, please give me them at your earlier convenience. From what I can tell it has something to do with the Cakepie case and the Geript situation.
If you truly want to lynch him you're going to have to convince peeps.
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On September 02 2013 12:55 austinmcc wrote:
gg dead bros.
VE died and flipped black but no role. This is portant. Could everybody in Black Mesa QT please post, and people report back to thread if any pseudonyms don't show up? Gives us a clue of someone who was unknown and in BM, and maybe indicated that BM don't flip with roles? Will do what I can to set aside paranoia concerning that for now, but if VE was the guy who claimed 3P in BM chat, that seems kinda nice.
If everyone in BM shows up, we know there's some other faction, but if someone specific is missing, we maybe know that VE was BM and maybe BM don't flip (could be someone in BM just not posting to make it seem like they're VE, which would be mean).
Still minorly interested in geript's thought process. I'll read hiro and some other folks when I'm more functional. Been scum with scumhiro a couple times, don't know that I have any super insight into him though.
VE was one of the people on my LoL list so he very well could have been Master Yi.
It would be very nice to know WTF is going on in BM chat.
Also I have been masoned by someone. I choose not to reveal his or her identity because said person has not responded to me yet and I'm not entirely sure as to the reason I have been masoned (though I think I have an idea).
I'll give it a few more hours and if they choose not to reveal it themselves, I'll out them.
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Kill scum, but I want to know why we have a no flip. Either he was killed by something that = no flip, or he doesn't flip because of whatever he is. If it's ALL black mesa people, that appears to be a bunch of no-flips and means we lack a lot of info in case of deaths (was indicated that scum was in black mesa, if black mesa is just a mason QT and none of them flip that means we don't know who in black mesa is scum or town). But if VE was the guy who claimed 3P, it's possible his no-flip is connected to being 3P, not being black mesa.
The difference between those two options is sizeable, imo. Again, you a dessert.
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Hassy can you please explain what it was you did to VE?
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There's a lot of points being made about other people that apply equally to me. I find it interesting that cheesecake is the only one consistently pressuring me. I'd be very interested in the filters of those people who mention me off hand but don't follow through at all.
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I think I need a new persona. The Brown has bored me and I'm only half-following it anyway. I have a better idea.
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You just aren't Chezinuing hard enough. I have seen zero posts in which you claim to be a bank.
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