EPTAperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 - Page 242
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On September 12 2013 08:29 Koshi wrote: Yeah getting killed early was silly. D: Yeah, my bad on that, VE. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Sometime in the future kitaman27 will write: FTFY Preempted that for ya. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On September 11 2013 23:42 Clarity_nl wrote: It should never have gotten to the point where axle was forced to claim or get lynched. He was pretty clearly town. Yeah, him just afking looked bad but you have to consider the possibility that he's actually just not around. Playing for a significant fraction of 48 hrs of a game day then getting lynched when I am either not there, and people seemingly being oblivious to the time zone I live in where it is between 3AM and 10AM my time so if I have been awake for the 5 hrs before 3am I might currently be ..... I used to just accept that my time zone was something I would need to keep pointing out but then later when I read my own games back, doing so (frequently explaining why you are or are not in the thread) reads as scummy, so I stopped doing that. But yeah currently I am having a hard time seeing how I can ever decide to divert that fraction of my RL time to a game to then get lynched for not spending effectively every hour out of 48 in the game. It has taken me a while to piece together what I did real early D1, as I was so tired from driving 1400km home and I wrote very little of my role speculations down. However as I piece it together. It was really early D1 when I decided my role looked like it had a catch. It looked like it could heal a lot of people...(awesome), but, In practice it couldn't do almost anything, + Show Spoiler + If I played scummy enough (low hanging fruit scummy) to get just a few votes in a contested lynch they would most likely be by the people I thought least likely to be town/most likely to be mafia and especially most likely not to be Nk'd shot as scum would know they were voting for a towny, hence wrong about their reads. Hell I was doctor most likely to be able to save the good vig shots. It was effectively almost a VT with claimable name.+ Show Spoiler + Sweet. Really. in which in some game changing role madness thing where everybody votes as directed or gets lynched kinda BS, where large swags of stuff could be done (but only for one cycle as I was also unprotectable). As playing mafia on TL is like herding cats, that was unlikely to happen, and also not the game I wanted to play. So Yep my early D1 conclusion, I had an effective VT. + Show Spoiler + I am really rather pleased with myself that i managed to think of my D1 shenanigan. The trouble with claiming was if I explained the role mechanics, then I presumed scum really ought have some counter power. (while in D1 I didn't know what the counter might be...) Clarity's : (-2) Invert target player’s role for the current night. .... <<<fits the ticket nicely. Would have turned the Doctor that is Awesome and doesn't suck into a mass murderer any night scum:Clarity chose and had the greymist points. So yeah given the actual roles and powers that existed in the game, me deciding D1 that unless I was given a very good reason to claim, then I just never would turns out to be about right. I also decided D1 that as I am really bad at either doing or guessing how much time is required to shenanigan a lynch, I would never last minute claim. When I went to sleep, my best guess was no one would meet my criteria "given a very good reason to claim" and I really did think town really could not reasonably lynch me... especially if I might actually be asleep. Thus the best chance town had to use my power was to never claim. At that time(when I went to sleep) I had no idea how dead in the water town were, (that is a lot of scum, omn the basis of balance I had assumed scum had few extra 1shot nks, not a few extra players.) the option of me getting lynched also seemed pretty good for town, as I reckoned any scum that really wanted to lynch me that day would only have total BS reasons for doing so(and they did). If had been awake and seen Hiro was the counter wagon that would have distressed me rather a lot as even though he fitted my criteria for when people voted D1, his filter read town to me. But well apparently town had in the previous 48 hrs when I had been tracking down that WOS was not town aligned had developed no better plan than to lynch someone because they wont do what we say. (Claim) meh. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Allowing an invert every night seems "anti-fun", given that you basically get a SUPER roleblock, instead of turning someone off you actively use their role for the opposite purpose they want without a notification. But having it cost a resource here meant we had to actually decide whether an invert tonight on any given target would be better than saving points for multiple future inversions. Can see that a little bit in our QT on the last night. Just seemed like a simple-sounding but complex-to-deal-with ability that has potential for lots of good and bad nonsense. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On September 12 2013 09:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Hey you know, it's just one of those things. Whether because I'm annoying or right, I'm a favorite early NK. I offered to protect you 3 N1, for two reasons. I hoped something might fall out of a non towns willingness to go along with the plan. It was i believe harder for both VE and Clarity to reach the decision to go with my plan than BH. The logic for you three apart from the advertised, you wouldn't wreck the lynch (make it a no lynch... and try to claim ooops) was also that you three (two if Geript really did it) were if town, you were good scum nks D1. It is also fun (but not necessarily useful) the order in which BH Clarity and VE swapped to vote me at the end of D1. bearing in mind how much self preservation matches each alignment and hence how complex the decision was for each. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On September 12 2013 11:09 AxleGreaser wrote: I offered to protect you 3 N1, for two reasons. I hoped something might fall out of a non towns willingness to go along with the plan. It was i believe harder for both VE and clarity to reach the decision to go with my plan than BH. The logic for you three apart from the advertised, you wouldn't wreck the lynch (make it a no lynch... and claim ooops) was also that you three (two if geript really did it) were if town, you were good scum nks D1. It is also fun (but not neccessarily useful) the order in which BH Clarity and VE swapped to vote me at the end of D1. bearing in mind how much self preservation matches each alignment and hence how complex the decision was for each. Yeah I was kinda worried but I figured I looked townie enough so it would be okay. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
I always thought it was because your beard was so devestatingly attractive so as to be too much of a distraction for town to function properly | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On September 13 2013 02:14 WaveofShadow wrote: Photoshopped.His Skype pic..... On the internet, nobody knows you can't grow facial hair. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On September 12 2013 22:24 mkfuba07 wrote: I feel like I need to see this glorious beard now :O VE is the envy of all his homeless friends | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Aperture Games Stats: 1 town win 2 scum wins austin carrying scum for a lead on the Aperture series! Anyways I'm thankful I didn't join this game because I would have rolled town, not sleep at night trying to read and post in this behemoth of a thread, and would have miserably lost and most likely go insane. I know that feeling Cephiro... | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On September 13 2013 04:30 gonzaw wrote: Aperture 1 Y U NO HAVE SCUM AUSTINMCC!?Nice job scum. Aperture Games Stats: 1 town win 2 scum wins austin carrying scum for a lead on the Aperture series! Anyways I'm thankful I didn't join this game because I would have rolled town, not sleep at night trying to read and post in this behemoth of a thread, and would have miserably lost and most likely go insane. I know that feeling Cephiro... | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On Aperture 1, I was town, you didn't play, I won. On Aperture 2, I was town, you were scum, we both won (mindfuck right here). On Aperture 3, I didn't play, you were scum, you won. So...what will happen on Aperture 4? You are scum, I am town, we both lose? The circle must be completed... EDIT: Or: I don't play, you don't play, we both win (somehow). Yeah, that's it! | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On September 13 2013 10:24 gonzaw wrote: Think that's it. I roll scum, you roll town (although I dunno about your Aperture 2 alignment, seeing as you won with us), and...some 3P SK wins.It's kind of funny. On Aperture 1, I was town, you didn't play, I won. On Aperture 2, I was town, you were scum, we both won (mindfuck right here). On Aperture 3, I didn't play, you were scum, you won. So...what will happen on Aperture 4? You are scum, I am town, we both lose? The circle must be completed... EDIT: Or: I don't play, you don't play, we both win (somehow). Yeah, that's it! | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On September 13 2013 11:07 austinmcc wrote: Think that's it. I roll scum, you roll town (although I dunno about your Aperture 2 alignment, seeing as you won with us), and...some 3P SK wins. Okay. So next game I'll lynch you D1 to try and make that prophecy fulfill faster. I mean, I know I will be town, and I know you will be scum  | ||
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