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On September 09 2013 05:14 AxleGreaser wrote:
Sorry i seemed to have been unclear.
You are town, as nearly every other townie was on that wagon.. if there is risk to town that you dont want to take... I dont recall you emphasising that to the other townies in the game.
As I understand it you didnt want to vote for geript as that might do something to you, but what I dont see is concern for what it might do to all the townies who were voting for geript.
(Indeed my plan which you didnt have problem with meant nearly all the townies would have voted for geript...)
How did you grow to trust him(Shiaopi)? What did you observe, because from what I saw in the thread the mistrust you had for shiaopi just seemed to evaporate?
Why didn't I tell other townies not to vote for him you mean? Because I honestly wanted to see what would happen. I figured at the point where EVERYBODY voted for him he wouldn't gain something like invincibility against everyone who voted him or some shit, I figured it would be something more like 'KP fired at random into the people who voted for you' and I didn't want to be a potential target.
I guess not only did I think no one would listen to me anyway, I admit I WAS kinda curious, and in voting Shiao I was sticking with my convictions at the time and felt good about that.
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On September 09 2013 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First of all me being alive is not a reason for me being scum. The rest of the post makes no sense and i useless speculation. There is not a single reason why i am scum.
If we kill the mafia pokemon dude, i become pretty much confirmed town. There is not a single reason why should i have claimed as scum. There is not a single reason why the other guy would be town. The suggestion that "rayn is playing with the hosts" is absurd and dumb. Mafia can't NK me, because doing that does not kill me until all my pokemons are dead. They need to lynch me. That's why they try to lynch me.
I am not here "doing nothing". Just because i don't make big posts with townreads and shit does not mean i am scum.
If there is a mafia pokemon dude other than yourself, that is. There are perfectly viable reasons why you could've claimed as scum. And I like this addition that you can't be NKed... very convinient, wouldn't you say?
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On September 09 2013 05:14 AxleGreaser wrote:
How did you grow to trust him(Shiaopi)? What did you observe, because from what I saw in the thread the mistrust you had for shiaopi just seemed to evaporate?
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Ahh.... this is a nice one. Rayn, I'd like to you to answer this: Assuming you speak the truth that you can't be NKed before all your pokemons are dead... how would the scum know about it?
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On September 09 2013 05:21 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 05:14 AxleGreaser wrote:
How did you grow to trust him(Shiaopi)? What did you observe, because from what I saw in the thread the mistrust you had for shiaopi just seemed to evaporate?
The masoning made me trust him.
Sorry for some reason I thought you were referring to Geript.
Axle what do you think of Rayn?
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Also do not forget about Austin. I almost did.
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On September 09 2013 05:23 Cephiro wrote:
Ahh.... this is a nice one. Rayn, I'd like to you to answer this: Assuming you speak the truth that you can't be NKed before all your pokemons are dead... how would the scum know about it?
Because they have a role similar to mine, ofc. Why did you think i said "do not fight if you are town" in the first place?
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Well, that and the townread. I still figured he was lying when he told me he could use his KP on ANYONE after getting 4 targets, but I wasn't concerned at the time since he told me he thought I was town after a while and he still had 3 more nights to go.
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On September 09 2013 05:23 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 05:21 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 09 2013 05:14 AxleGreaser wrote:
How did you grow to trust him(Shiaopi)? What did you observe, because from what I saw in the thread the mistrust you had for shiaopi just seemed to evaporate? The masoning made me trust him. Sorry for some reason I thought you were referring to Geript. Axle what do you think of Rayn?
nah the geript bit was my bad .
As masoning can be scum or town role. I presume you mean the things he said or asked in the mason chat.
You can't quote but what in the mason chat led you to get a town read on him having had him as your strongest scum read.
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On September 09 2013 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also do not forget about Austin. I almost did.
On September 09 2013 04:10 Cephiro wrote:
Stutters & austin, would you like to tell us a bit more about what you are trying to achieve?
I really don't like the way you're defending yourself and trying to divert attention. All your defense is based on your role and the existence of this scum pokemon trainer. You haven't tried to point out if you've been useful or not at all, you're concentrating on your counterpart way too much. It's like you don't care about anything but him. Why shouldn't you try to hunt other scum as well, considering that it seems you have no clue about this scum pokemon trainer you claim there is?
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On September 09 2013 05:27 AxleGreaser wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 05:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 09 2013 05:21 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 09 2013 05:14 AxleGreaser wrote:
How did you grow to trust him(Shiaopi)? What did you observe, because from what I saw in the thread the mistrust you had for shiaopi just seemed to evaporate? The masoning made me trust him. Sorry for some reason I thought you were referring to Geript. Axle what do you think of Rayn? nah the geript bit was my bad . As masoning can be scum or town role. I presume you mean the things he said or asked in the mason chat. You can't quote but what in the mason chat led you to get a town read on him having had him as your strongest scum read.
Constant stream of questions, genuinely being concerned when I didn't answer after a while, providing clear and honest answers/reads when I asked for them in return. He volunteered his role info (minus the KP only being usable on mason members for obvious reasons) to me despite me not having provided any reads or information to him yet.
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On September 09 2013 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2013 05:27 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 09 2013 05:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 09 2013 05:21 AxleGreaser wrote:On September 09 2013 05:14 AxleGreaser wrote:
How did you grow to trust him(Shiaopi)? What did you observe, because from what I saw in the thread the mistrust you had for shiaopi just seemed to evaporate? The masoning made me trust him. Sorry for some reason I thought you were referring to Geript. Axle what do you think of Rayn? nah the geript bit was my bad . As masoning can be scum or town role. I presume you mean the things he said or asked in the mason chat. You can't quote but what in the mason chat led you to get a town read on him having had him as your strongest scum read. Constant stream of questions, genuinely being concerned when I didn't answer after a while, providing clear and honest answers/reads when I asked for them in return. He volunteered his role info (minus the KP only being usable on mason members for obvious reasons) to me despite me not having provided any reads or information to him yet.
As hes a flipped townie can you tell us what his reads were?
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He actually didn't provide many reads of his own for a few days.
He thought Geript was scum, though kita was town/hassy scum....maybe a townread on Hiro since he stopped trolling?
He seemed genuinely confused by all the debears/OO shit..
haha reading through this QT again it seems I actually provided most of the reads and details. No wonder he (said he) trusted me.
Oh and again I forget if I mentioned this but you were his second proposed mason target, Axle. His reasoning he gave when he recruited me was 'because he had trouble reading me,' so I suspect his reasoning may have been similar, possibly to keep you close so he could shoot you if necessary (if he though you might be scum). He was apparently RBed so that never happened.
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So could you provide those reads and thoughts to us too WoS? I don't see a lot from you besides your read on me.
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I have been up off and on more than 24hrs... so i really am going to have some sleep.
I now this seems anti climactic. Sorry but Id be seriously incoherent if I tried to address stuff now.
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@Cakepie
I had been hoping to catch up with you too.
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@WOS one more question were you masoned by anyone else?
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On September 09 2013 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So could you provide those reads and thoughts to us too WoS? I don't see a lot from you besides your read on me.
Yeah i wouldnt mind know what reads you gave shiaopi that helped shiaopi decide you were town.
(as i recall you guys wer at one another before the masoning.)
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Could somebody who wants to lynch me/hear from me actually ask some questions? If you are simply waiting to hear what I have to say in general then just wait a bit more for now.
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On September 09 2013 06:29 randombum wrote:
Could somebody who wants to lynch me/hear from me actually ask some questions? If you are simply waiting to hear what I have to say in general then just wait a bit more for now.
Are you about to act which is why we need to wait, or are you finishing a bigger write-up and reading through filters still? At the moment I'm personally wanting to hear from you in general, and THEN ask you for questions if I find necessary.
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