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On August 08 2013 14:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Rules clarification re: endgaming the jester
A jester endgamed by town loses.
A jester endgamed by scum gets a "partial victory"
I suspect scum asked this question as i can't imagine town thinking about this.. I know I certainly didnt
Hmmm I imagine this changes the game somewhat as now scum have the option to bandy up day2 and are probably playing the lurking game..
Where are u phagga....
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I'm back, reading up. This first:
On August 08 2013 14:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Rules clarification re: endgaming the jester
A jester endgamed by the town loses.
A jester endgamed by scum gets a "partial victory"
This basically means we have to lynch scum D1. If we don't, we have to hope that scum hits the jester. If the jester survives the night, town is in an almost unwinnable position as it is not possible to get a majority on scum (1-1-1 or 2-1-1 if we lynch the unlynchable), since the jester will not vote scum with us (if he is able to properly identify the scum).
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On August 08 2013 12:37 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Mocsta
Well there are several ideas being bounced around right now.for example, there's been some "Phagga is Jester" talk that I'd like to hear your thoughts on. As well as any other sCum-reads you might have. sure. Phagga has a consistent vibe in his posts which is a plus. however I'm still struggling to get why he was hesitant to claim when he supported the plan . This seems more to do with paranoia considering He also admits to looking carefully for the lynchproof which falls into my mafia mindset criteria. Im not sure whether a jester would be playing this reckless either. So for now I'm willing to consider phagga as non jester....Maybe mafia though. I do feel phagga has not sufficiently addressed why he was hesitant to claim either whether talking to myself or oats. Phagga. The crux of my problem is. U agree with the lynchproof plan yet did not want to contribute to it?? I just don't understand how u could withhold that information if the key to the plans success in it eyes was to have information??
Seriously Mocsta, it's not hard to read my posts in chronological order. I'm sick of having to explain this over and over again, I've written enough about it to Oats. Read my filter.
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Phagga.
I thought I explained my inability to comprehend your actions in some detail.. however u still choose not to change your approach...
Lets try something new.
Now that all 5 ppl have posted somewhat. Who do u think fits the mould of jester and goon.
Do u think lynchproof is going to play the same way as a vt?.
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On August 08 2013 13:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
wait so hapa, you would play jester as townie as possible?
No, but a Jester won't necessarily reveal his/her hand this soon. You have to balance being scummy with being laughably obvious.
On August 08 2013 13:11 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 12:59 Hapahauli wrote:
That's a huge misrepresentation of what I've been posting considering your "plan."
Like I said, every single role wants to claim VT. You seem to think that we should have the unlynchable claim, but that just makes them a target on N1. They can always claim if they're about to get lynched. I don't see the difference. If you dismiss the plan without explaining why you think it's bad then that's the same to me.
Just because you don't understand my explanation doesn't mean I didn't explain it. As said twice before, there's simply no merit in having the unlynchable townie claim now. Why out a blue when we don't need to? He can claim at [i]any time. Best case scenario for town is to have him live to tomorrow and THEN claim.[/b]
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On August 08 2013 16:00 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 13:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
wait so hapa, you would play jester as townie as possible? No, but a Jester won't necessarily reveal his/her hand this soon. You have to balance being scummy with being laughably obvious. Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 13:11 geript wrote:On August 08 2013 12:59 Hapahauli wrote:
That's a huge misrepresentation of what I've been posting considering your "plan."
Like I said, every single role wants to claim VT. You seem to think that we should have the unlynchable claim, but that just makes them a target on N1. They can always claim if they're about to get lynched. I don't see the difference. If you dismiss the plan without explaining why you think it's bad then that's the same to me. Just because you don't understand my explanation doesn't mean I didn't explain it. As said twice before, there's simply no merit in having the unlynchable townie claim now. Why out a blue when we don't need to? He can claim at [i]any time. Best case scenario for town is to have him live to tomorrow and THEN claim. [/b]
So we have determined that Jester wont play like town.
Who are you possible jesters Hapa?
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On August 08 2013 15:39 Mocsta wrote:
Phagga.
I thought I explained my inability to comprehend your actions in some detail.. however u still choose not to change your approach...
Lets try something new.
Now that all 5 ppl have posted somewhat. Who do u think fits the mould of jester and goon.
Do u think lynchproof is going to play the same way as a vt?.
The lynchproof should play the same as VT, as if he's town he should be able to show that and therefore be in no danger of getting lynched.
I can't say who's jester and who's goon, I think however that you are one of the anti-town forces. You are not trying to figure the game out, instead you ask me over and over again about my actions around the plan, and you ask things I've clearly answered already.
U agree with the lynchproof plan yet did not want to contribute to it?? I just don't understand how u could withhold that information if the key to the plans success in it eyes was to have information??
I mean, this question is useless. I already explained I withheld my claim to get more info from geript about his plan, and after that deciced that the plan has it's merits and claimed. I've clearly written this, read my filter.
On August 08 2013 12:45 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 10:53 geript wrote:
Mocsta Who are you interested Lynching and why? I think it is too haste to push a lynch with the current info. So far. My towniest read is oats though. So just need to figure out between hapa.geript. phagga which is jester which is mafia. If I was to have a punt now. I would pen hapa as jester.. mainly because of his reluctance to consider phagga as jester and he just feels off from the limited posts so far. Still want to pursue phagga first though.
I don't understand why you can't follow up on both of us. Why this focus on me when you say yourself that something might be up with Hapa? we're not in a game with dozends of pages, it should be easy to follow two people at the same time.
So yeah, I think you are either jester or scum.
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phagga, hapa more likely jester or scum?
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So phagga. I can't vote for me. U gonna show some balls and start this?
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On August 08 2013 16:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
phagga, hapa more likely jester or scum?
If I have to choose between the two, I'd say jester, because he reads me correctly. Scum would use the opportunity to further push me as lynch.
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On August 08 2013 16:12 Mocsta wrote:
So phagga. I can't vote for me. U gonna show some balls and start this?
Why don't you push hapa if you think something is wrong with him?
I vote when I feel sure I've found scum.
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Hapa: What do you think of Mocsta? What do you make of his reaction to my accusation?
Oats: you said earlier that Hapa and me are the anti-town forces. Why do you think Mocsta is town?
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On August 08 2013 16:20 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 16:12 Mocsta wrote:
So phagga. I can't vote for me. U gonna show some balls and start this? Why don't you push hapa if you think something is wrong with him? I vote when I feel sure I've found scum.
Frankly I feel I have gone out of my way to express why I dont understand u.. and u keep backpedaling to your discourse with oats..that's shoddy to me and hence That's why I'm not interested in hapa currently.
In fairness I'm restricted to phone posting at work . So I will make a deal with u. When I get home. I will summarise my grievance for u one last time via computer so I can quote etc
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On August 08 2013 16:25 phagga wrote:
Hapa: What do you think of Mocsta? What do you make of his reaction to my accusation?
Oats: you said earlier that Hapa and me are the anti-town forces. Why do you think Mocsta is town?
cause mocsta feels like town.
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On August 08 2013 16:25 phagga wrote:
Hapa: What do you think of Mocsta? What do you make of his reaction to my accusation?
Oats: you said earlier that Hapa and me are the anti-town forces. Why do you think Mocsta is town?
U have a terrible penchant to misread.
He thinks I'm antitown and if u read the quote he supplied that would be apparrent.
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On August 08 2013 16:33 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 16:25 phagga wrote:
Hapa: What do you think of Mocsta? What do you make of his reaction to my accusation?
Oats: you said earlier that Hapa and me are the anti-town forces. Why do you think Mocsta is town? U have a terrible penchant to misread. He thinks I'm antitown and if u read the quote he supplied that would be apparrent.
That's the latest summary of reads I found of Oats:
On August 08 2013 12:02 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 06:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Obviously things early in the game won't be damning, but of all the players in the game that have posted so far, Mocsta looks by far the worst. Oats is being very confrontational/spazzy, which is pretty semblant of his townplay. Phagga sounds extremely paranoid (townie) in reaction to Mocsta's "jester" thing. You have your try-hard pants on. This statment. Im town, phagga's town, geript's town. Oh wait. Hapa cant be town then. Yeah so phagga and hapa are the anti town factions. Which one is scum and which one is jester though.
So much for missreading.
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I wrote lol afterwards dude.
When he wrote "this statement." I thought he shared hapa sentiment of me.
Regardless. Here's a q for u phagga.
U choose to outline me as scum. But then ask me to also chase hapa.
Why r u being so reactive? If u had concerns with me or any others. Why r u not leading the charge to ascertain alignment?
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On August 08 2013 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 16:25 phagga wrote:
Hapa: What do you think of Mocsta? What do you make of his reaction to my accusation?
Oats: you said earlier that Hapa and me are the anti-town forces. Why do you think Mocsta is town? cause mocsta feels like town.
On August 08 2013 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2013 16:25 phagga wrote:
Hapa: What do you think of Mocsta? What do you make of his reaction to my accusation?
Oats: you said earlier that Hapa and me are the anti-town forces. Why do you think Mocsta is town? cause mocsta feels like town.
What makes you feel his town? Can you elaborate a bit? Can you point to something?
I wrote some posts up why I think Mocsta is not town because he's not trying to figure things out, what do you say about that?
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Phagga
U do realise everything u have submitted in the thread is a +1 right?
Ur idea of a good plan....+1 to geript
Ur best scum lead.... +1 to hapa
Ur scum justification...,+1 to hapa
So if u want to use hapa logic so flippantly.. Is he a town read for u or not....
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