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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
August 12 2013 07:58 GMT
#401
lynch proof is meaningless on day two
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 12 2013 08:02 GMT
#402
On August 12 2013 16:58 Blazinghand wrote:
lynch proof is meaningless on day two

confirmed town yo.
No gg, No skill.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 08:32 GMT
#403
On August 12 2013 17:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 16:58 Blazinghand wrote:
lynch proof is meaningless on day two

confirmed town yo.

Not if scum/jester counterclaims.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 12 2013 08:49 GMT
#404
and they would counterclaim the towniest townie day 2 for?
No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 12 2013 08:56 GMT
#405
U were lynchable oats based on uconstant backflipping
Can be sold as scum not wanting to hammer

If u didn't turn on the full regard switch. Then yes. U were literally unlynchable. And not just by role
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 08:59 GMT
#406
On August 12 2013 11:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:33 Mocsta wrote:
Lol Geript... I thought phagga best point was I kept saying ima townie..it was intentional
However.. the ones he quoted took the word use out of context
I'm sure there's plenty others I just used the word as sublimjnal confirmation and felt that coulda really damned me.

That's null for me entirely. You were town for me by process of elimination. Phagga's reactions read to me as if he had to think and analyze how best to respond instead of acting instinctively (which ironically was right). It was too much that he was trying to look town instead of being town.


It's interesting that you perceived it like this, because I was not intentionally trying to look like town. I thought if I'm able to point out where Mocsta is having a scum mindset, you'll rethink your position on me. However, I realize by now that I presented my points completely wrong. (I still think that some of them were actually good points at the time, I just presented them awfully).

As for kill Wifom, that's why I ended up ignoring it. Phagga looked more like scum to me and wifoming and dragging it out wouldn't I don't think have changed the decision unless you slipped really bad.

As for the insta-claim plan, the only way it fails IMO is if there are no unlynchable claims. That line of play takes all of the pressure off scum/jester to figure out how to respond. I'm not quite sure why it wasn't obvious to Oats/phagga immediately. I still caught you by the green/horny line. Oh we'll, I could've corrected at the end.


My first reaction to your plan was "hey, that's a cool idea", but then I immediatly asked myself what your exact motivation was. So I asked before claiming.

Btw, it is my experience that if player A does something scummy, and player B is trying to make player A scum for that point almost the whole game, then player B is probably scum. That was one of the main reasons why I thought Mocsta was scum in the first place. He was so focused on my reaction to the plan (which might not have been ideal), completely dismissed my explanations and ignored everything else I did. That made it obvious for me that he can't be town.

I've been caught in that trap a few times, (nominations comes to mind, or wheel of fortune), and I think I recognise it pretty well by now.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 12 2013 08:59 GMT
#407
Anyways.. I liked the game cos of size but not sure I would play again

The town established themselves way too early. And when I tried to poke for reactions I the instantly called scum..only way I stayed in the game was by forcing the jester to become important..if the same 5 ppl played again. Random roles. I think it would be easy solved early day1
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 12 2013 09:10 GMT
#408
On August 12 2013 17:56 Mocsta wrote:
U were lynchable oats based on uconstant backflipping
Can be sold as scum not wanting to hammer

If u didn't turn on the full regard switch. Then yes. U were literally unlynchable. And not just by role

no way geript or phagga wouldve voted for me anyway.

No gg, No skill.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
August 12 2013 09:42 GMT
#409
Town cred only lasts for so long...guess we will never know
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 10:27 GMT
#410
On August 12 2013 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
looking for thoughts re: the setup also. I like the idea of jester+scum+2vt+unlynchable, specifically because of the possibility of unlynchable claim shenannies


I like the setup a lot. However, a second game would probably be much more predictable/harder for scum as people would figure out faster what the optimal play for each situation is. As Mocsta said, if we'd play the game again with the exact same people, scum chances to win would be very small.

I also liked the size of the game. I dislike the recent trends of 15+ minis, so this was a nice change.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 12 2013 10:31 GMT
#411
Yup yup, setup was pretty nice, maybe have either an unlynchable or a medic.
No gg, No skill.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 12 2013 15:03 GMT
#412
On August 12 2013 18:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 17:56 Mocsta wrote:
U were lynchable oats based on uconstant backflipping
Can be sold as scum not wanting to hammer

If u didn't turn on the full regard switch. Then yes. U were literally unlynchable. And not just by role

no way geript or phagga wouldve voted for me anyway.


I would've voted you for the lulz
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