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On August 12 2013 09:39 phagga wrote:
In the end it was probably my most frustrating game so far. I had the whole game solved, knew who was scum, but was unable to convince the other townies. I raged so hard at times in front of the computer. That's probably part of the reason why my case was so overdone, i was so angry when I wrote it.
I did my job then 
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On August 12 2013 09:42 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 09:39 phagga wrote:
In the end it was probably my most frustrating game so far. I had the whole game solved, knew who was scum, but was unable to convince the other townies. I raged so hard at times in front of the computer. That's probably part of the reason why my case was so overdone, i was so angry when I wrote it. I did my job then
Of course. As I said, I failed to convince the others. Although I would have wished that geript would not have ignored me so often. But I probably should have insisted stronger.
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I am the low hanging fruit 
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
looking for thoughts re: the setup also. I like the idea of jester+scum+2vt+unlynchable, specifically because of the possibility of unlynchable claim shenannies
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I still get the shennanies to be honest?it's only helps town as far as I could see...I'm also pretty short sighted so happy to be enlightened.
Setup wise. I liked it...it's lonely playing scum solo from start though
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
Well I mean part of the hilarity is that the presence of the jester combined with the unlynchable VT means it's reasonable for scum OR jester to claim lynchproof. The best part is a 1-1-1 day 2, where both the town and scum player's optimal play is to claim scum and try to convince the jester to lynch the other guy for a joint scum+jester victory.
PS thinking just a warning for hapa. He was obviously around and interested in the game, and was trying to play low-activity jester (which failed horribly), but ultimately being forced to modkill him made the game worse. If anyone has input on this we can chat in the ban list thread.
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On August 12 2013 09:32 phagga wrote:
The oats kill was not odd at all. oats was the one refusing to kill me, while you were completely open to it. Of course he kills him.
Killing me was barely an option when I was an (at that point) easy misslynch, and killing you could have complicated things for Mocsta massively.
No you have to view it from an objective standpoint.
If I'm scum, I'm free to kill either Mocsta or Oats. Neither of which is particularly damning.
If Oats is scum, he NKs, Mocsta or myself.
If Mocsta is scum, it's 50/50 to kill you or Oats (there's no real gain to kill me).
But if Phagga is scum, he really needs to kill me as I'm far less damning to him than Mocsta.
So the situation where Oats dies and I'm town is specifically odd because its a huge Wifom risk coming from you.
More than anything else, I think your odd case strategies did you in. Nothing that you focused on was important IMO. The best points (what I quoted to Moc) were Wifom.
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Bh I had a chat to hapa and seemed innocent..I think he got the post restriction time wrong. Warning sounds fine to me
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Yah no issues w/ warning. Odd set of post restrictions.
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I get the whole best play for Nk Geript.. but I think that type of stuff is relatively easy to wifom out of..
I was considering killing phagha and then trying to get oats to lynch u..playing the whole... Scum framed me my killing phagha card
Main reason I killed oats was not because he was universal townie..but because his vote was not predictable at all.
I guess we all view the game differently.. which is what makes solving the game interesting.
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Lol Geript... I thought phagga best point was I kept saying ima townie..it was intentional
However.. the ones he quoted took the word use out of context
I'm sure there's plenty others I just used the word as sublimjnal confirmation and felt that coulda really damned me.
As for bh and the shennanies of day2.. I get that can work.. but not with the crop of players we had...ppl like Geript/oats were too townie. No way jester would believe counter claim...also the sharedwin makes the game somewhat easier in. My opinion.. in fact I was annoyed hapa died because I was banking on him for shared win con.
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On August 12 2013 11:33 Mocsta wrote:
Lol Geript... I thought phagga best point was I kept saying ima townie..it was intentional
However.. the ones he quoted took the word use out of context
I'm sure there's plenty others I just used the word as sublimjnal confirmation and felt that coulda really damned me.
That's null for me entirely. You were town for me by process of elimination. Phagga's reactions read to me as if he had to think and analyze how best to respond instead of acting instinctively (which ironically was right). It was too much that he was trying to look town instead of being town.
As for kill Wifom, that's why I ended up ignoring it. Phagga looked more like scum to me and wifoming and dragging it out wouldn't I don't think have changed the decision unless you slipped really bad.
As for the insta-claim plan, the only way it fails IMO is if there are no unlynchable claims. That line of play takes all of the pressure off scum/jester to figure out how to respond. I'm not quite sure why it wasn't obvious to Oats/phagga immediately. I still caught you by the green/horny line. Oh we'll, I could've corrected at the end.
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I do t get why that green horn line was bad though?
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It's not a bad line, but that's not how you'd put it as town. You could use that same phrase, but you'd do it differently... That's all I can explain.
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I told you mocsta was scum =/
But yeah, sorry about the modkill - I forgot that the game was on a 24 hour post rule as opposed to a 48. Needless to say I wasn't expecting to win the game, but I should have been more aware of the rules D=
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Hehe. U woulda won with me day2
Lynching phagga and then the night kill
We would outnumber town 2 to 1.
Bh is saying that's where the fun starts as town can fake claim. But I still think we had it in the bag
Anyways. Why call me out as jester?
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On August 12 2013 15:12 Mocsta wrote:Hehe. U woulda won with me day2 Lynching phagga and then the night kill We would outnumber town 2 to 1. Bh is saying that's where the fun starts as town can fake claim. But I still think we had it in the bag Anyways. Why call me out as jester?
I can't really say I had a gameplan going into this. I jumped on the first thing scummy I found in-thread, and then realized I was right when you made that phagga case. Then I just stopped pushign you... or even posting =P
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well fuck you too geript for being an asshole.
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Lol... Man mafia creates so much beef
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The reason why I didnt claim unlynchable is because I was in no danger of being lynched and claiming unlynchable wouldve meant I was shot n1 definitely so there was really no point.
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