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On August 22 2013 07:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 07:52 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 22 2013 07:50 Holyflare wrote:On August 22 2013 07:49 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 22 2013 07:45 Holyflare wrote:
yeh but who would slam tell him to target first? my reads in the first day last game were all the scum team, he 'might' try and tell him to pressure me into looking scummy first It's possible. How come slam did not try and pressure you though? disassociation obviously Then why did he pressure me? lol because the rest of the town did
Ok makes sense.
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On August 22 2013 07:52 DeusXmachina wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 07:48 OmniEulogy wrote:On August 22 2013 07:35 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 22 2013 07:22 DeusXmachina wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 18 2013 07:39 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 07:02 Koshi wrote:On August 18 2013 07:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
what's up guys. I'm almost completely caught up Yeah it took me 5 minutes as well. Hahahaha yeah, unfortunately what I'm really going over right now is the massive clusterfuck at the end of D1. I agree with you completely when you say that nobody should vote for a guy with literally 0 posts. Town should NEVER lynch the "easiest" target which it seems like they did... that's complete scum mentality. Town lynch the scummiest players not the easiest ones -.- ... I'm also really upset that three people didn't even vote which makes it even harder to sort it out. so far I think I'm pretty happy with my reads right now though I think Slam really sticks out to me as scummy for jumping around on his votes so much, even to the point of voting for Xzavier on two seperate occasions, however he has been one of the most consistant contributors in the game albeit very spammy. I'm getting a newbie town feeling from him and with the amount he's posting if he is scum it wont take long for him to slip. For that reason I'm ok with him currently. I've never played with Deus but people say he's an aggressive townie. I'm not seeing any of that from this game. He's been asking really bad fluff questions which would be easy for scum to imitate to pretend to be contributing, his vote on Xzavier and his reason behind it were terrible or rather his lack of a reason. Then after the lynch on Xzavier he goes after Holy for something he was fine before and even said he thought Holy was town for. I'd say out of all the players he's my top scum read right now. And then Holy votes for Xzavier as a "place holder" never to take his vote off him. Very scummy behavior considering he goes for the easy lynch, and a way to avoid needing to actually come up with a reason to vote for somebody. As far as town reads go I had a newbie town read on Reps and so in turn I believe Koshi is town. JAT is my strongest town read in the game at the moment slight town read on iVLosK! and the rest are all neutral as I still have to go through the filters again. I'd really like to know why Slam jumped his vote around so much asap and why the hell all three of you (Holy, Deus, Slam) thought it was a good idea to lynch Xzavier. This is a post that I would point to as alignment indicative. It is his first in this game. Of the three candidates that he will focus on he focuses on Holy and Myself. At the time slam was not one of the best contributors, so this seems like a fake reason to "be ok with him currently". Another thing that really bugs me about this post, is when he says JAT is my strongest town read. I don't think JAT should have been anyone's strongest town read at this point in the game, unless you are scum and you know he is town. JAT and Holy would you interpret this post in the same way? Anything else to point out? Is this alignment indicative? Omni would you mind commenting on this? What were some of the contributions that caused you to overlook slam and focus on myself and holy? Holy because his vote was unique out of the three of you and I wanted to start with the xZavier lynch and build off it to catch scum, Holy's vote was very noticeable because of how it was placed, and then he went on to claim he was looking for the "safe" place to put his vote. That's a word town doesn't use while placing votes, and can sometimes be a scum slip. I then went after you because before I made Holy's case I had said you were my strongest scum read, with Holy answering me fairly well I let him drop although I was and still am suspicious of him and focused on you, JAT made his case, I followed up and then continued to push for your lynch through D2. Slam was a close 2nd but because he left for half of D2 I continued to pressure you as Slam wouldn't have been able to answer anything I asked him. (And he never did) So are you saying it was by a process of elimination. You thought that Holy and I were better targets so you focused on us. Then why did you say he was one of the most constant contributors (because he wasn't)?
contribution in the sense of activity out of the three of you, the more scum talks the more likely they are to screw up, and he talked a lot. I still said he was scummy and should be looked at as the other option besides you for the D2 lynch for... the entire day.
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Like I said earlier, who would be better to leave in the game? The antagonistic douche losk or the non contributer who could be modkilled into someone productive
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clearly the guy you voted for right? lol
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On August 22 2013 07:54 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 07:52 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 22 2013 07:48 OmniEulogy wrote:On August 22 2013 07:35 DeusXmachina wrote:On August 22 2013 07:22 DeusXmachina wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 18 2013 07:39 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2013 07:02 Koshi wrote:On August 18 2013 07:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
what's up guys. I'm almost completely caught up Yeah it took me 5 minutes as well. Hahahaha yeah, unfortunately what I'm really going over right now is the massive clusterfuck at the end of D1. I agree with you completely when you say that nobody should vote for a guy with literally 0 posts. Town should NEVER lynch the "easiest" target which it seems like they did... that's complete scum mentality. Town lynch the scummiest players not the easiest ones -.- ... I'm also really upset that three people didn't even vote which makes it even harder to sort it out. so far I think I'm pretty happy with my reads right now though I think Slam really sticks out to me as scummy for jumping around on his votes so much, even to the point of voting for Xzavier on two seperate occasions, however he has been one of the most consistant contributors in the game albeit very spammy. I'm getting a newbie town feeling from him and with the amount he's posting if he is scum it wont take long for him to slip. For that reason I'm ok with him currently. I've never played with Deus but people say he's an aggressive townie. I'm not seeing any of that from this game. He's been asking really bad fluff questions which would be easy for scum to imitate to pretend to be contributing, his vote on Xzavier and his reason behind it were terrible or rather his lack of a reason. Then after the lynch on Xzavier he goes after Holy for something he was fine before and even said he thought Holy was town for. I'd say out of all the players he's my top scum read right now. And then Holy votes for Xzavier as a "place holder" never to take his vote off him. Very scummy behavior considering he goes for the easy lynch, and a way to avoid needing to actually come up with a reason to vote for somebody. As far as town reads go I had a newbie town read on Reps and so in turn I believe Koshi is town. JAT is my strongest town read in the game at the moment slight town read on iVLosK! and the rest are all neutral as I still have to go through the filters again. I'd really like to know why Slam jumped his vote around so much asap and why the hell all three of you (Holy, Deus, Slam) thought it was a good idea to lynch Xzavier. This is a post that I would point to as alignment indicative. It is his first in this game. Of the three candidates that he will focus on he focuses on Holy and Myself. At the time slam was not one of the best contributors, so this seems like a fake reason to "be ok with him currently". Another thing that really bugs me about this post, is when he says JAT is my strongest town read. I don't think JAT should have been anyone's strongest town read at this point in the game, unless you are scum and you know he is town. JAT and Holy would you interpret this post in the same way? Anything else to point out? Is this alignment indicative? Omni would you mind commenting on this? What were some of the contributions that caused you to overlook slam and focus on myself and holy? Holy because his vote was unique out of the three of you and I wanted to start with the xZavier lynch and build off it to catch scum, Holy's vote was very noticeable because of how it was placed, and then he went on to claim he was looking for the "safe" place to put his vote. That's a word town doesn't use while placing votes, and can sometimes be a scum slip. I then went after you because before I made Holy's case I had said you were my strongest scum read, with Holy answering me fairly well I let him drop although I was and still am suspicious of him and focused on you, JAT made his case, I followed up and then continued to push for your lynch through D2. Slam was a close 2nd but because he left for half of D2 I continued to pressure you as Slam wouldn't have been able to answer anything I asked him. (And he never did) So are you saying it was by a process of elimination. You thought that Holy and I were better targets so you focused on us. Then why did you say he was one of the most constant contributors (because he wasn't)? contribution in the sense of activity out of the three of you, the more scum talks the more likely they are to screw up, and he talked a lot. I still said he was scummy and should be looked at as the other option besides you for the D2 lynch for... the entire day.
activity is not alignment indicative. It still seems like you ignored slam without a valid reason. In the last newbie game a player named Umasi had the second longest filter and he was scum. Slam had the longest filter and he was town. That being said, if slam cut down on his activity heavily it would have looked very suspicious.
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On August 22 2013 07:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
clearly the guy you voted for right? lol
would rather have sex than change my vote, ty
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Umm let me rephrase that. Activity can be alignment indicative. I just don't think it was so in this case, and especially in slam's case.
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On August 22 2013 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
Like I said earlier, who would be better to leave in the game? The antagonistic douche losk or the non contributer who could be modkilled into someone productive
This is a good point. But this would mean slam saved iVLosk to mislynch him later and instead he continued to say he is town and bamcis and what not.
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On August 22 2013 07:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 07:57 OmniEulogy wrote:
clearly the guy you voted for right? lol would rather have sex than change my vote, ty
Lucky bastard.
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also great to bring up an entire case on losk and hope NOBODY WOULD VOTE ON HIM BECAUSE OF IT, logic much
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On August 22 2013 07:59 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
Like I said earlier, who would be better to leave in the game? The antagonistic douche losk or the non contributer who could be modkilled into someone productive This is a good point. But this would mean slam saved iVLosk to mislynch him later and instead he continued to say he is town and bamcis and what not.
I would actually interpret that as slam using an opportunity to give town reads. It was probably easiest for him to give a believable town read on iV because it was solely based on a couple points. Plus, generally speaking, I don't think it is wise to make connections in that way. If iV would flipped scum at some point people might be suspicious of slam. And likewise, when slam flipped scum it's a reason to be suspicious of iV.
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On August 22 2013 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
also great to bring up an entire case on losk and hope NOBODY WOULD VOTE ON HIM BECAUSE OF IT, logic much
unlike you I'm still trying to scum hunt, also apparently you could still put in your 2 cents on losk but couldn't change your vote from xZavier. Smooth move there.
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Well, it's late. I'm taking off. I am really unsure about who is scum right now and I hope iV puts some effort into this tomorrow.
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On August 22 2013 08:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Well, it's late. I'm taking off. I am really unsure about who is scum right now and I hope iV puts some effort into this tomorrow.
iv is not scum
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On August 22 2013 08:02 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
also great to bring up an entire case on losk and hope NOBODY WOULD VOTE ON HIM BECAUSE OF IT, logic much unlike you I'm still trying to scum hunt, also apparently you could still put in your 2 cents on losk but couldn't change your vote from xZavier. Smooth move there.
because I honestly thought i'd be around to change it and then like I said in one of my posts 'what if i became inundated with stuff to do', turns out i was... -.-?
why scum hunt when i've found the scum
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this really is no contest, if you're green i'll vote deus and we still win so who gives a shit?
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yeah yeah, I'm going to flip town and you guys are going to have to decide between Deus, LosK, and Holy is going to look absolutely terrible for his lack of cases, other than on Slam and doesn't follow it up and then for the first time in a full week makes a very weak case about me and mostly Slam - he intentionally avoids trying to mention my filter because everything in it leans town, his rehashing of my and JAT cases on Deus (who he also pushed the majority of D2 without adding anything new), JAT seriously man I'll go over LosK's filter and hope I hit something big cause right now any three of Holy, Deus, and LosK could be the remaining scum to some degree and it will literally be down to you after today to figure that out if I get lynched.
I've said it before but if you listen to this moron and lynch me, You better be sure as fuck who you're going to lynch the next day because otherwise you lose.
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[QUOTE]On August 22 2013 08:13 Holyflare wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 22 2013 08:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 22 2013 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
also great to bring up an entire case on losk and hope NOBODY WOULD VOTE ON HIM BECAUSE OF IT, logic much[/QUOTE]
why scum hunt when i've found the scum[/QUOTE]
You've been really really bad at this part the WHOLE game. lol
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On August 22 2013 08:21 OmniEulogy wrote:
yeah yeah, I'm going to flip town and you guys are going to have to decide between Deus, LosK, and Holy is going to look absolutely terrible for his lack of cases, other than on Slam and doesn't follow it up and then for the first time in a full week makes a very weak case about me and mostly Slam - he intentionally avoids trying to mention my filter because everything in it leans town, his rehashing of my and JAT cases on Deus (who he also pushed the majority of D2 without adding anything new), JAT seriously man I'll go over LosK's filter and hope I hit something big cause right now any three of Holy, Deus, and LosK could be the remaining scum to some degree and it will literally be down to you after today to figure that out if I get lynched.
I've said it before but if you listen to this moron and lynch me, You better be sure as fuck who you're going to lynch the next day because otherwise you lose.
slam deus and losk and now yours with little conviction because like I said earlier I didn't believe it myself but now I do.
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On August 22 2013 08:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 08:21 OmniEulogy wrote:
yeah yeah, I'm going to flip town and you guys are going to have to decide between Deus, LosK, and Holy is going to look absolutely terrible for his lack of cases, other than on Slam and doesn't follow it up and then for the first time in a full week makes a very weak case about me and mostly Slam - he intentionally avoids trying to mention my filter because everything in it leans town, his rehashing of my and JAT cases on Deus (who he also pushed the majority of D2 without adding anything new), JAT seriously man I'll go over LosK's filter and hope I hit something big cause right now any three of Holy, Deus, and LosK could be the remaining scum to some degree and it will literally be down to you after today to figure that out if I get lynched.
I've said it before but if you listen to this moron and lynch me, You better be sure as fuck who you're going to lynch the next day because otherwise you lose. slam deus and losk and now yours with little conviction because like I said earlier I didn't believe it myself but now I do.
I'm just going to keep repeating this, but I know you won't get it.
I'm going to flip town. I haven't lied once this game, I'm not going to lie now. If you lynch me that's fine, as long as the rest of you understand what you are going to do and lynch the remaining scum.
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