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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 28 2013 21:28 GMT
#5
Oh god yes.... Finally
/in
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 29 2013 14:44 GMT
#19
I'm just going to go ahead and say it. If you're a lurker, then I'm going to tunnel you into hell. So if you have any intention of lurking, then I suggest you play another game.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 31 2013 20:48 GMT
#30
On August 01 2013 05:43 Cephiro wrote:
My return shall be made, perhaps in style, perhaps not.
/in

Look chez, you play and I'm going to shoot you.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 06 2013 15:45 GMT
#49
But Mocsta... puh puh pweese?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 09 2013 03:06 GMT
#57
Yeeeeesssssssssss
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 16 2013 15:39 GMT
#99
On August 16 2013 18:36 Koshi wrote:
Or a small normal. 18 is still not bad. 30 would have been cool though. We just need the Titanic crew and make it a 500 page game.

Your wish is my command.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 22 2013 16:09 GMT
#113
/out
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 13 2013 04:42 GMT
#177
/in
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 19 2013 11:03 GMT
#371
On September 19 2013 19:40 marvellosity wrote:
Words cannot express how unappetising that looks

We think the same of some of your food dear. Ours may make us like MC, but damn does it taste good.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 19 2013 12:11 GMT
#383
Also guys, don't expect me to be super active. My previous meta will be useless related to inability to spam. Not that anyone will believe me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 19 2013 12:17 GMT
#385
Awe. My wubbybumpkins so sweet. Just like good (non-bloody) cobbler.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 01:08 GMT
#458
Woooooo +30
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 01:13 GMT
#460
FYI. I have a final Monday so ill be less active this weekend too.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 02:41 GMT
#497
Fuck. I rolled town :/
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 02:42 GMT
#499
##vote DarthPunk
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 02:43 GMT
#501
DarthPunk not being enough of an asshole. He's not town.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 02:49 GMT
#509
On September 21 2013 11:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Oh WTF?! you voted for me? I don't even know if your scum or just retarded for doing that.

Yah you're scum. I wonder who else will see it.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 02:59 GMT
#525
On September 21 2013 11:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 11:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
My hurting butt is not a laughing matter.



I think rayn's vote on me is retarded because it's 100% idiotic. That's my defense. Suck it.


LOL. Here is how you read VE. Call him scum and if he is town he will flip shit.

Not even close to true.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 03:01 GMT
#528
VE. You're looking at the wrong post for why DP is scum.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 03:04 GMT
#532
Well at least I know that I can come back Sunday and tunnel DP. K. See you guys then.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 03:06 GMT
#539
Cos I do what I want bish.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 03:40 GMT
#563
On September 21 2013 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:
So basically I agree with rayn, I want mocsta to tell us all he is policy voting Kush.

Here's where he should've been looking. DP doesn't post like this as town. No real follow through or bite. Just throwaway generic DP townesque play.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 03:43 GMT
#567
Plus, DP makes more demanding instead of passive requirements.

But really why should I blow my wad all over DP just to see him not hang. First major push never gets lynched.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 03:45 GMT
#570
On September 21 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
DarthPunk not being enough of an asshole. He's not town.

So that's me saying I'm making a meta case. No DP is the only one who said shit about me making a meta case.

Also. WoS needs to be lynched D2.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 03:49 GMT
#574
On September 21 2013 12:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 12:40 geript wrote:
On September 21 2013 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:
So basically I agree with rayn, I want mocsta to tell us all he is policy voting Kush.

Here's where he should've been looking. DP doesn't post like this as town. No real follow through or bite. Just throwaway generic DP townesque play.

Firstly you're wrong. See GSL III. Secondly meta doesn't work on me. I keep telling you all and you all keep mis-using it. Thirdly I don't buy that you could have such a seemingly solid scum read on me based on that post.

You keep spewing complete bullshit. I'm not going to drop a big as meta case. My points aren't based on meta. I'm not making shit about meta. I only use meta to read a very few people and for the rest it's just a way to accuse people. You're scum flat out get over it.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 03:49 GMT
#575
On September 21 2013 12:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 12:45 geript wrote:
On September 21 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
DarthPunk not being enough of an asshole. He's not town.

So that's me saying I'm making a meta case. No DP is the only one who said shit about me making a meta case.

Also. WoS needs to be lynched D2.

Y

You didn't say hi to me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 03:52 GMT
#578
On September 21 2013 12:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 12:45 geript wrote:
On September 21 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
DarthPunk not being enough of an asshole. He's not town.

So that's me saying I'm making a meta case. No DP is the only one who said shit about me making a meta case.

Also. WoS needs to be lynched D2.


OK i changed my mind again you're just an idiot. That is clearly a meta case as you are saying as town I am more of an arsehole; therefore I am scum because I am not being enough of an arsehole. What the fuck does that statement even mean if it is not meta?

Nope. Thought processes between town and scum change automatically. You being a pussy about how you're approaching people shows your innate fear. Very early passive play.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 03:55 GMT
#581
On September 21 2013 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 12:49 geript wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:40 geript wrote:
On September 21 2013 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:
So basically I agree with rayn, I want mocsta to tell us all he is policy voting Kush.

Here's where he should've been looking. DP doesn't post like this as town. No real follow through or bite. Just throwaway generic DP townesque play.

Firstly you're wrong. See GSL III. Secondly meta doesn't work on me. I keep telling you all and you all keep mis-using it. Thirdly I don't buy that you could have such a seemingly solid scum read on me based on that post.

You keep spewing complete bullshit. I'm not going to drop a big as meta case. My points aren't based on meta. I'm not making shit about meta. I only use meta to read a very few people and for the rest it's just a way to accuse people. You're scum flat out get over it.


You keep saying your points are based on meta when they clearly are. I Think it is pointless talking to you anymore. Someone please vig geript.

You'll be vig'd before I will.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 04:00 GMT
#585
On September 21 2013 12:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 12:52 geript wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:45 geript wrote:
On September 21 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
DarthPunk not being enough of an asshole. He's not town.

So that's me saying I'm making a meta case. No DP is the only one who said shit about me making a meta case.

Also. WoS needs to be lynched D2.


OK i changed my mind again you're just an idiot. That is clearly a meta case as you are saying as town I am more of an arsehole; therefore I am scum because I am not being enough of an arsehole. What the fuck does that statement even mean if it is not meta?

Nope. Thought processes between town and scum change automatically. You being a pussy about how you're approaching people shows your innate fear. Very early passive play.


Wow, you're argument has fundamentally changed after you got pressured.
You are wrong so after this game if you are town I am going to shout at you about it in the post game. Anyway rayn is right. I'm not talking to you anymore as it is not productive. I would rather you get vigged than lynched. but I hope you die either way.

Ok. Well you either get lynched today or I shoot you until you're dead. Enjoy bish.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 04:04 GMT
#588
No Rayn Koshi is town. Made a good joke. Shows he's comfortable. He's very lurky hidey as scum and not comfortable with pressure.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 04:45 GMT
#610
Moc who you up for lynching?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 05:33 GMT
#636
Thought process does not ever catch me as scum. I will not move my vote period.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 05:37 GMT
#638
DP
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 06:07 GMT
#651
On September 21 2013 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:
So basically I agree with rayn, I want mocsta to tell us all he is policy voting Kush.

This is an exceptionally passive way to tell Moc to do what he wants. It's an easy way to blend in and say nothing. It's like he's ordering a pizza, "I want a large with a side of Mocsta suggestions." Yes this is the type of thing that DP says at town numerous times in numerous games but additionally in those games this tends to come after a larger read or explanation or push. There's nothing important here whatsoever.

On September 21 2013 11:44 DarthPunk wrote:
He did the same thing as town in The Game. Or something similar. I jumped all over his arse for it then and he ended up tunnelling me stupidly in response. I don't think it really means anything nor do I think it is alignment indicative. I just thought it would be funny to CC an early VE vote. Cause, you know, he would get all butthurt. Haha.

I absolutely loathe the "Haha" here. It doesn't follow from a town sentiment. It isn't a natural progression from "CC an early VE" vote to "VE gets all butthurt" to "Haha." The natural progression is: "take action to piss off VE" to "VE gets all butthurt" to "VE overreacts and shows his alignment" to "Haha." There's no push here to try and do anything to get a read here. This is just further filler fluff.

On September 21 2013 12:07 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 12:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Unvote:
DarthPunk, did i understand you right?
You want me and VE tunnel each other?

Why not? It would help me read you both, So kind of useful for me.

Town fights can be incredibly useful. It's often quite easy to convince town to detunnel and have 2 confirmed town. DP knows this. DP's gotten in shitfests a bunch. What we see here is not that DP is willing to get into a shitfest to get a read, but that he wants to start outside shitfests. He wants to create room to hide in the middle.

On September 21 2013 12:19 DarthPunk wrote:
I mean they aren't like super solid or anything, but both are in the thread posting at the start of the game which is more often townies than not. A few meta things from rayn and I liked his questioning about tunnelling VE. VE seems pretty townie due to his butthurt and the way he identified something really scummy and not super obvious about the way geript was behaving which I liked. Obviously this is all subject to change but I think it is likely that VE and rayn are town.

Next, he's all over VE and Rayn both being town. I think he wants to make a doll that reads VE and Rayn are town and then marry it he's so enamored with the idea over and over and over. It's the comfort zone he falls into. I don't have a problem with that per se (although it's hella early to have 75% or better townreads so ridiculously early in the game when both look firmly null), it's that he's not thinking about that any further or pushing or prodding other people to find reads on them. He's not painting players green and moving on to re-look at them later to reaffirm or deny that read.

On September 21 2013 12:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 12:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:03 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:01 geript wrote:
VE. You're looking at the wrong post for why DP is scum.


Please create some sort of case, which includes some sort of evidence. You mentioned meta so link some old games of mine. Until then go away plz.

This is more like something I can agree with. The post you quoted here is extremely suspicious to me. He's trying to fabricate suspicion on you THROUGH me. Why not point to the post himself? Explain his own thoughts?


I think this is really key when deciding if geript is town or scum. Like before you pointed this out VE I was basically assuming he was just bad town. But trying to push me THROUGH you is actually scummy rather than just bad.

Not only does he do a generic +1 on me through VE, ironically, he can't even make up his mind on if I'm scum or if I'm town. I play however the fuck I want when I want how I want; but he's red on me and isn't willing to pressure me one of any number of available ways (directly by interaction, indirectly by amassing votes, etc.). He's fine with putting his toes in the water but not dive head in yet again.

Scum. Straight up.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 06:09 GMT
#652
On September 21 2013 14:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
2) No I'm not saying "that early Day1: it is expected for scum to be controversial and then just say, im fucking off". That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that it's suspicious that he wanted ME to make a case on DP instead of explaining his reasoning himself. He was content that I was suspicious of DP and voting for him. That IS suspicious Mocsta, whether it's D1 or D9.

That wasn't my sentiment at all. I just thought that your suspicion on him was for the wrong post. DGAF if you wrote a case or not.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 06:23 GMT
#655
I stopped giving a fuck of what you thought a while back despite enjoying playing with you. How I read people has been changing.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 06:29 GMT
#659
VE why do you have DP as town?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 06:42 GMT
#662
I'd buy that line of reasoning normally, but considering you as 3P pushed me as town last game for equally bullshit reasons. Why should I buy your line of reasoning?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 07:01 GMT
#664
Ok I'll just assume that you're both scum then.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 15:01 GMT
#729
On September 21 2013 23:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rereading I can see where you're coming from with regard to geript Mocsta. And I find it an odd coincidence that you mention Wave as your next most suspicious. At the time all of that was going down, I thought geript and Wave were BOTH doing something you accused geript of, trying to whip DP into a fury.

Anyway I'm awake and have read. I'd be happy to answer any questions anyone has of me. In the meantime, I'm pondering and still awaiting those who haven't joined us to chime in.

Sure I just got done with CPR class. Since I've been playing less why have you become so bad at reading me?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 15:05 GMT
#732
On September 22 2013 00:00 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 23:57 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 21 2013 23:08 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 23:07 kushm4sta wrote:
becuse you talked when you said you cant talk

Have you turned a new leaf or something?

Since when do you care as town?


So I'm awake. Can you clarify this for me Mocsta. I got that you're implying that a caring kush is a scum kush, but this post imply you think he's town. Can you explain what's different about him this time to why you think he's town instead of scum?

Is this a serious question?

Out of everything in the thread, you are pulling up this quote; and completely taking it out of context? WTF

Comeback when you have read the game... NOT a good start for you.

Chill Moc, it's not that huge. I still don't get why you like DP at all. Either way lets move on a new subject some, can you fully explain why you don't like my wubbybumpkins? I have lots of little reservations about him.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 17:16 GMT
#784
On September 22 2013 02:15 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 02:11 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 22 2013 01:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 01:45 Stutters695 wrote:
So who wants to lynch Kush with me?

How about we lynch you instead?

Don't be bad plz.



Look at everything he's done. Yes he appears to give a shit (both good and bad depending on how you read his meta) but in this case that's really bad because he doesn't give a single shit about finding scum. He's playing thread police and defending a lurker/giving out town reads, all of which is significantly easier than hunting as scum.

You can thank me once he flips red.

If you think you have the right to call me bad considering the little you have done in this game you are delusional. Don't do it again.

Lol. DP not only are you bad, you're also scum. Tough titties.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 17:21 GMT
#787
On September 22 2013 02:20 DarthPunk wrote:
##Vote: Geript

Die.

There's no way you lynch me. And then you die night 1 when I shoot you in the face. Enjoy bish.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 17:38 GMT
#797
On September 22 2013 02:35 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 02:30 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:15 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:11 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 22 2013 01:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 01:45 Stutters695 wrote:
So who wants to lynch Kush with me?

How about we lynch you instead?

Don't be bad plz.



Look at everything he's done. Yes he appears to give a shit (both good and bad depending on how you read his meta) but in this case that's really bad because he doesn't give a single shit about finding scum. He's playing thread police and defending a lurker/giving out town reads, all of which is significantly easier than hunting as scum.

You can thank me once he flips red.

If you think you have the right to call me bad considering the little you have done in this game you are delusional. Don't do it again.


I didn't call you bad, I asked you not to be bad, implying you will be if you try to lynch me. I even said plz, that's pretty nice.
Do you disagree with what I said about Kush?

No. But When you popped in the thread with a one liner asking to lynch an active kush you should reasonably expect people to take issue with it. I think your case is OK. I'm not sure how much scum hunting kush does in the first half of day one usually though or what threshold kush's non-scum hunting becomes flying under the radar intentionally.

So while you're case is good and the thought process is solid I'm not sure if kush is scum or just Kush and therefore I probably don't want to lynch him yet.

Blah blah. I still refuse to take an actual stance. Blah blah
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 17:44 GMT
#802
On September 22 2013 02:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 02:38 geript wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:30 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:15 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 02:11 Stutters695 wrote:
On September 22 2013 01:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 01:45 Stutters695 wrote:
So who wants to lynch Kush with me?

How about we lynch you instead?

Don't be bad plz.



Look at everything he's done. Yes he appears to give a shit (both good and bad depending on how you read his meta) but in this case that's really bad because he doesn't give a single shit about finding scum. He's playing thread police and defending a lurker/giving out town reads, all of which is significantly easier than hunting as scum.

You can thank me once he flips red.

If you think you have the right to call me bad considering the little you have done in this game you are delusional. Don't do it again.


I didn't call you bad, I asked you not to be bad, implying you will be if you try to lynch me. I even said plz, that's pretty nice.
Do you disagree with what I said about Kush?

No. But When you popped in the thread with a one liner asking to lynch an active kush you should reasonably expect people to take issue with it. I think your case is OK. I'm not sure how much scum hunting kush does in the first half of day one usually though or what threshold kush's non-scum hunting becomes flying under the radar intentionally.

So while you're case is good and the thought process is solid I'm not sure if kush is scum or just Kush and therefore I probably don't want to lynch him yet.

Blah blah. I still refuse to take an actual stance. Blah blah

Don't talk to me please. I don't want to hear it and I don't want to be baited into more shit flinging with you. Which is clearly your intention.

So calling you out for not taking anything but the safest easiest stance and not taking any other stance on anything period is baiting you? RTFT. You just don't want to be called to the table for your shit.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 17:46 GMT
#803
To Marv. Your read on DP... Gogogogo
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 17:52 GMT
#806
You make me sad
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 18:14 GMT
#831
Why does everyone forget that I was the first person to call out my wubbybumpkins.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 18:57 GMT
#861
On September 22 2013 03:15 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 03:14 geript wrote:
Why does everyone forget that I was the first person to call out my wubbybumpkins.

You could give an updated read on WoS, and perhaps reads on other players in the game.

You know, like I asked you to do.

There hasn't been a reason to upgrade or downgrade him from suspicious. He didn't engage me at all despite the fight with DP. Plus he bypassed the whole fight entirely. And he didn't give a reason for not engaging the common topic.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 21 2013 18:59 GMT
#864
On September 22 2013 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
The stuff about geript. Feels townie to me.

Nah he's townie because of MocLogic from post 2.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 22 2013 13:11 GMT
#1187
On September 22 2013 17:54 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 17:52 Mocsta wrote:
That doesnt make him scummy FT.

I understand that meta cases aren't always the best. That's why I haven't made a case on DP and pushed him like an inbred retard (see:geript). I am simply posting my thoughts, nothing more, nothing less.

At least there's a clear causative agent in my retardation. Unfortunately for us, you stupidity is by choice.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 22 2013 13:15 GMT
#1189
Nah. Just caught up. FT looks like scum and I could join that parade. I still like WoS for scum. Otherwise naw. I'll read after D&D.
geript
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September 22 2013 23:14 GMT
#1596
Ok I'm back. I've been keeping up reading but not much else.

People I think are town for various reasons:
Koshi
Mocsta
Yamato
Marv
Rayn

People I'm happy to see lynched
DarthPunk--Obv scum
Tofu--hella weird game, I'm leaning towards scum over super butthurt
Vayne--GTFO 2 posts not even attempting to play the game. If I were a host I'd modkill him and ask for a ban for not even trying to play
WoS--I don't see him really taking any sort of responsibility in this game and that's something I associate with his town play and something I caught onto in his last game (3P) I'd be happy with a lynch there. Plus, he hasn't been bitching about the complete lurkage or really trying to push me either direction. Would shoot after DP.

Complete Lurker List
Xzavier
Cephiro
Zenatsu
gumshoe
Onegu

I'm betting that there's 2-3 scum in this list so the "safe lynch" would be among these guys as I'm mostly ok with everyone's posting.

People I want to see more out of:
Pandain--Just crazy shit left and right; feels like he's disinterested which makes far more sense from a scum perspective right now
Chairman--All I see is a mental struggle in what/how to post but that's something I expect. Need more thought process.
geript
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September 22 2013 23:14 GMT
#1597
Oh yah, and I didn't get a towny feel from Mattchew but i forget why.
geript
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September 22 2013 23:16 GMT
#1599
On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100?

Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things.
geript
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September 22 2013 23:18 GMT
#1602
On September 23 2013 08:16 marvellosity wrote:
geript, can you explain your Mocsta read please?

He's using Moc logic which is something he only does as town.
geript
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September 22 2013 23:20 GMT
#1606
On September 23 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 08:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:10 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2013 07:51 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.

Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.

##Vote: Umasi

Here for a while if you want to ask me something.


By the way, this is total bullshit.

On June 11 2013 05:11 LoneMeow wrote:

On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which.


Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now.

##Vote: Umasi


This is the only time (as town) LoneMeow has ever mentioned Umasi. "Notoriously biased" based on this? Really?!

He's probably talking about their newbie game interaction, marv.
Come on, it's not rocket science.


Read what I wrote again, learn to read, then respond again. Thanks Wave. Hint: check the timestamp of the 2nd quote.

Do you mean it is literally the only time LM EVER mentioned Umasi? I assumed you meant in this game.
Don't condescend to me marv. It's unbecoming.


I won't condescend if you don't assume I'm being an ass when I'm not known for being dumb like that

Yes, I mean it's literally the only time ever. Lone has played two towngames, of which Umasi was in one, and that quote (and the nested one inside it) were the only times he mentioned Umasi. And the mentions were "i kinda think maybe he's scum or maybe this other player, i guess umasi is mafia".

Do you understand now why I have my eyebrows massively raised at his contention that he's massively biased against Umasi?

FWIW I either coached or hosted or something one of those games as I remember and IIRC there was a big thing afterwards about Lone always and forever from then on thinking Umasi is scum. I could be wrong though and be attributing that somewhere else though.
geript
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September 22 2013 23:21 GMT
#1607
On September 23 2013 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 08:16 geript wrote:
On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100?

Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things.

No, he's basing this on our VOICE MAFIA games, in which it was explained to him that I give zero fucks as any alignment. I have stated that I don't find a great deal of correlation between VOICE MAFIA play and forum mafia play though aside from certain cases though (kush), but I don't think Mattchew knows my stance on that. I do remember reading this and thinking, 'Wait, is he really reading me based on the two VM games we played together?'

I tend to give more fucks in forum mafia though the more I play, the fewer fucks I give.

Not in my opinion. How I see it is like me you care but don't want to.
geript
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September 22 2013 23:29 GMT
#1628
On September 23 2013 08:22 yamato77 wrote:
geript, MocLogic is not a good enough explanation.

Yes it is. Moc uses specific sets of heuristics as town and completely different sets of heuristics as scum always and forever. Moc is fine.
geript
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September 22 2013 23:36 GMT
#1646
On September 23 2013 08:23 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 08:20 geript wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:10 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2013 07:51 marvellosity wrote:
On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.

Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.

##Vote: Umasi

Here for a while if you want to ask me something.


By the way, this is total bullshit.

On June 11 2013 05:11 LoneMeow wrote:

On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which.


Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now.

##Vote: Umasi


This is the only time (as town) LoneMeow has ever mentioned Umasi. "Notoriously biased" based on this? Really?!

He's probably talking about their newbie game interaction, marv.
Come on, it's not rocket science.


Read what I wrote again, learn to read, then respond again. Thanks Wave. Hint: check the timestamp of the 2nd quote.

Do you mean it is literally the only time LM EVER mentioned Umasi? I assumed you meant in this game.
Don't condescend to me marv. It's unbecoming.


I won't condescend if you don't assume I'm being an ass when I'm not known for being dumb like that

Yes, I mean it's literally the only time ever. Lone has played two towngames, of which Umasi was in one, and that quote (and the nested one inside it) were the only times he mentioned Umasi. And the mentions were "i kinda think maybe he's scum or maybe this other player, i guess umasi is mafia".

Do you understand now why I have my eyebrows massively raised at his contention that he's massively biased against Umasi?

FWIW I either coached or hosted or something one of those games as I remember and IIRC there was a big thing afterwards about Lone always and forever from then on thinking Umasi is scum. I could be wrong though and be attributing that somewhere else though.


Could you do me a favour and try to have a quick look? I can't imagine where it would be and it would be super helpful.

Here and Here. Maybe not as pronounced as I remember but I can at least understand basic illogical bias against Umasi based on history as I would basic bias against me since I seem to roll scum a bunch.
geript
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September 22 2013 23:41 GMT
#1653
Ok, well if there aren't any specific questions for me I'm going to go study
geript
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September 22 2013 23:44 GMT
#1656
On September 23 2013 08:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 08:21 geript wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:16 geript wrote:
On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100?

Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things.

No, he's basing this on our VOICE MAFIA games, in which it was explained to him that I give zero fucks as any alignment. I have stated that I don't find a great deal of correlation between VOICE MAFIA play and forum mafia play though aside from certain cases though (kush), but I don't think Mattchew knows my stance on that. I do remember reading this and thinking, 'Wait, is he really reading me based on the two VM games we played together?'

I tend to give more fucks in forum mafia though the more I play, the fewer fucks I give.

Not in my opinion. How I see it is like me you care but don't want to.

Can you rewrite that so it's understandable by someone who isn't living in your head?

It's pretty simple. I don't care about the games I play in, I just don't want to have to care about the games I play in. I think you're the same way.
geript
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September 22 2013 23:50 GMT
#1659
On September 23 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why is DP obvscum, G-ript?
And since DP refused to do it, do you mind looking at my analysis of FT's first post and telling me what you think?

I've already explained that. I don't understand how anyone reads him as trying to move the game forward and there's lots of shit that he's been doing nothing with. All of the "town reads" on him make 0 sense to me whatsoever. Really though it's not a big issue because he's dead come D2 period.

As for FT post, I didn't hate it. But I think FT is an awful player because he doesn't reassess any situation in the dynamics of how the game is playing out. For example when he refused to admit that fakeclaiming Det. was bad because it flat out allowed Onegu or Koshi or whoever to not be suspected as scum Vig. You need to reassess situations as it's moving forward and information comes out. The other problem with FT is that I think he's so awful that he can never ever de-tunnel under any situation.

As for the caring thing. I'm a player who cares about winning and taking responsibility and shit; but I don't want to be a player to who cares / gives a fuck about the game. I want this to be fun and relaxing and most of the time it's neither. I think you're the same way.
geript
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September 23 2013 00:00 GMT
#1661
Marv you down for a DP lynch or a complete lurker crapshoot?
geript
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September 23 2013 00:14 GMT
#1669
On September 23 2013 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 08:50 geript wrote:
On September 23 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why is DP obvscum, G-ript?
And since DP refused to do it, do you mind looking at my analysis of FT's first post and telling me what you think?

I've already explained that. I don't understand how anyone reads him as trying to move the game forward and there's lots of shit that he's been doing nothing with. All of the "town reads" on him make 0 sense to me whatsoever. Really though it's not a big issue because he's dead come D2 period.

As for FT post, I didn't hate it. But I think FT is an awful player because he doesn't reassess any situation in the dynamics of how the game is playing out. For example when he refused to admit that fakeclaiming Det. was bad because it flat out allowed Onegu or Koshi or whoever to not be suspected as scum Vig. You need to reassess situations as it's moving forward and information comes out. The other problem with FT is that I think he's so awful that he can never ever de-tunnel under any situation.

As for the caring thing. I'm a player who cares about winning and taking responsibility and shit; but I don't want to be a player to who cares / gives a fuck about the game. I want this to be fun and relaxing and most of the time it's neither. I think you're the same way.

You think FT is awful but you think DP is scum, so is he right?
And what about what Marv just said?

(and in regards to the 'gives-a-fuck'-ness, again, depends on the game. If you're basing it on Bluelightz then yeah, that game was shit, we both cared, didn't want to and it didn't matter. I would say for the most part though I do care about the outcome of a game and do try---I'm not sure where you get the fact that I don't. This isn't exactly topic/game-relevant in my opinion though so mabes we talk in postgame.)

No I don't think his post was right per se. He was all wrong about my previous meta. I don't think he's even right about DP's general meta. But I also don't think that FT has enough to balance his ego and actually think about what he's saying (pot... kettle... blah blah). That said, I don't think FT really took an actual stance on DP in the early post or even any reasonable logical stance on DP after that. But I think FT is an awful player who has no real desire to get better so take that how you will.
geript
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September 23 2013 00:15 GMT
#1671
On September 23 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote:
I'm nowhere near done reading, but I still think LM is a decent lynch; I know people are reading his martyring as a towntell, but usually when townies martyr they stick around to vent their martyryness (aw yea) on people, whereas LM just peaced out. Say you're a newbie townie who feels out of his depth a little in a large game full of regulars and loud posters - fine, maybe it's a little scary, but is it really as desperate as LM is coming across? Is the situation that bad? ugh

I'm very much with you on this point. I've been thinking about that some myself.
geript
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September 23 2013 00:16 GMT
#1672
On September 23 2013 09:15 marvellosity wrote:
geript, there's no need to be that harsh. Srsly man.

Call me biased, but I'm not going to go all soft and nice on someone who called me an inbred retard.
geript
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September 23 2013 00:29 GMT
#1682
On September 23 2013 09:26 marvellosity wrote:
Sidenote: I am troubled by VE's absence

I already told you that his push against me was exactly the same as in the last game where he was 3P... But apparently I'm a bad player so...
geript
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September 23 2013 00:41 GMT
#1703
On September 23 2013 09:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm catching up - I'm watching WWZ with the wife.

Mandatory "Sick delurk bro"

@Marv I disagree. Palmar knows that VE gets lazy as scum generally and I've hated all of VE's pushes as complete bullshit. Plus, he loves to 'setup' people for the flip as scum. He tried it on me in PYP; he did it in GMarshal's game (the podcast on) on I forget who; he did it here. Plus, the whole DP/VE thing early on seemed weird to me.
geript
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September 23 2013 00:43 GMT
#1705
On September 23 2013 09:39 marvellosity wrote:

It really doesn't feel like Ray has done this at all (I mean obviously he hasn't with his vote) - he hasn't tried to gain information from people either. Town will usually at least try to follow through with their plan. Look at this post:

I disagree with this point. Town generally forgets their plan or moves on in my experience. It's scum who's concerned with consistency and stuff as such.
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September 23 2013 02:01 GMT
#1801
Yah. I'll move to FT. Ray idk. Maybe I'll shoot him instead.
geript
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September 23 2013 02:03 GMT
#1808
Seems odd that Ray knew the obv self survival vote. I'm shearling Marv.
geript
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September 23 2013 02:39 GMT
#1819
Well at least I'm free to shoot DP.
geript
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September 23 2013 02:44 GMT
#1828
So DP... Any last words?
geript
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September 23 2013 02:45 GMT
#1831
On September 23 2013 11:45 yamato77 wrote:
geript might also be mafia

No even close yam...
geript
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September 23 2013 02:48 GMT
#1838
Hey Moc... Can you hear my eyes rolling from over where you're at?
geript
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September 23 2013 02:56 GMT
#1850
On September 23 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 11:48 geript wrote:
Hey Moc... Can you hear my eyes rolling from over where you're at?

Yeah, I hear grease/oil slushing around... guess its cos your so scummy.

You're so cute sometimes when you think you've caught someone. <3
geript
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September 23 2013 02:57 GMT
#1855
On September 23 2013 11:56 FirmTofu wrote:
I'm back at the worst possible time. ugh. Sorry, I had an extremely busy day today. Any questions for me?

Not bothering to read at all?
geript
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September 23 2013 03:00 GMT
#1858
On September 23 2013 11:59 FirmTofu wrote:
Wait what is going on, I thought the deadline is in 2 minutes?

So that's a no ok. Peace.
geript
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September 23 2013 03:13 GMT
#1879
On September 23 2013 12:11 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 12:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok can we talk about the fact that geript is going to vig me stupidly? Like, I am quite annoyed about that.

Can you please link me to the post where geript claims vig? Thanks.

So you gave me a town read and didn't see any ANY??? Of the times I told DP he was getting Shot?
geript
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September 23 2013 04:47 GMT
#1905
On September 23 2013 13:44 Blazinghand wrote:
wow we lynched the parity cop D1. this town would be so lost if I hadn't replaced in

Awe. Early test prevents me from spamming it up, but my bullet shall ring true. I shall remove Scum BH from the second game in a row :-P

Jk. Still shooting DP. Night
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September 23 2013 10:30 GMT
#2039
Lol. Coag's saying I'm gonna die.
geript
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September 23 2013 10:48 GMT
#2049
Oh to have an extra bullet. I'd shoot FT for these piles of bs.
geript
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September 23 2013 10:56 GMT
#2059
So is nobody else find coag's choice of shot weird? I mean, at least he's town then and shit but ugh.
geript
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September 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#2064
Ok. See you hon keys after the test.

Tofu. I want an explanation of how you gave me a townread but completely missed all my vig claims.
geript
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September 23 2013 11:05 GMT
#2071
On September 23 2013 20:02 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 20:00 geript wrote:
Ok. See you hon keys after the test.

Tofu. I want an explanation of how you gave me a townread but completely missed all my vig claims.

I skipped the majority of your posts because I assumed you were having a shitfest with someone or the other and I wanted to finish catching up as fast as possible. It's a harsh reality, I know.

So you just chose to give me a townread after skipping most of my posts? Where's the sense in that?
geript
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September 23 2013 11:26 GMT
#2100
Hey, I had good reasons to execute BH. They were wrong tho
geript
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September 23 2013 13:30 GMT
#2181
On September 23 2013 21:34 marvellosity wrote:
geript really really does need to explain his vote though.

I already did. It seemed really weird that Ray knew who the counter option was and changed my mind. Plus, I recognize that I'm biased against tofu.
geript
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September 23 2013 14:44 GMT
#2208
Now I want to shoot Koshi too because he's been blatantly wrong and stupid which are two traits I associate with his scum meta.

As for why re:CR vote: I'm always trying to be hyper aware of which scum are "at risk" and who the counter wagons are. I remembered CR being a recent show prior to lynch; but that awareness of as I saw it a late counter wagon read scummy to me.
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September 23 2013 14:54 GMT
#2211
On September 23 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote:
you've still not explained WHY it read as scummy geript.

Yes I have or at least as best as I am able. If you don't like it daddy then you should have better kids.
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September 23 2013 15:01 GMT
#2213
Because I felt like he was aware of what I would consider a late counter wagon despite only "coming back" recently. Hyper awareness to available mislynches is something I associate with scum.
geript
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September 23 2013 16:04 GMT
#2237
Did nobody like my reason for disliking Mattchew???? /sadface
geript
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September 23 2013 16:08 GMT
#2240
On September 24 2013 01:06 Mocsta wrote:
Man, this game is seriously fucked up.

Two situations.. Scum is heavily bussing D1... or.. my reads are completely wrong.


Yeah, all the smartarses will come out and say my reads are wrong.. watevz

idk you think I'm scum? In that case then they're all wrong.
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September 23 2013 16:11 GMT
#2242
What was the point in keeping it on DP? He wasn't getting lynched. It's like being able to have my cake and eat it too.
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September 23 2013 16:39 GMT
#2255
On September 24 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote:
geript, I'm curious you haven't commented on DP's whole ragequit thingy.

I'm trying not to comment on it honestly. The last rage quit burned me pretty hard.
geript
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September 23 2013 16:41 GMT
#2256
On September 24 2013 01:26 Mocsta wrote:
Geript, mav/me still waiting.

I really wonder where the Geript I nk'd night1 in his first TL game disappeared to. I miss that guy R.I.P

I'm as good as how much time I put in. Just is what it is. IDK like I really don't feel great about my reads as I was pre-aperature. That said, everyone else who played and voted for me in aperature and was town were idiotic. I'm just not feeling this game and I think a large majority of scum are inactive.
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September 23 2013 16:42 GMT
#2257
On September 24 2013 01:33 Mocsta wrote:
is there a clear tally?

im not 100% sure what time deadline mz used.

It's ok... no one else is sure what any of the deadlines are either.
geript
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September 23 2013 16:52 GMT
#2260
Loo9k i'm 5 beers in righ tnow and I dobut I'll be much help righ tnow. I get it it. My day one was pretty week. I still don't feel good. I'm pretty sure he's alseep or at work right now which I find hilarious. I actually don't have any problem with people who have reasonable suspicions on fit. but it's the unreasonable stuipd shit agait me that really pisses me off. I mean... my scum games are completeliy different in how i vew the game.
geript
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September 23 2013 17:04 GMT
#2262
I really don't cate if you thing I'm town
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September 24 2013 00:25 GMT
#2563
I'd still rather ft be shot.
geript
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September 24 2013 00:46 GMT
#2576
Marv if you die I promise to be all try hard and shit on Wednesday. Speaking of OO, I had suspicion of him but I forget why.
geript
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September 24 2013 00:57 GMT
#2589
Since we're narrowing down on the deadline... I think. I just wanted to be up front for realz. I'm not shooting DP. or FT. or Onegu. It's not for lack of desire. It's for lack of bullets; I mean I personally am not shooting blanks, but in the game I have neither a gun nor blanks. I just figured that it gives a quite good alternate way to read/medic people if appropriate and I hope DP comes back and shit. All that said, I would hope that DP would've had much more faith in me but after aperature I guess not. I'm still not happy with his replacing out and I still feel like he's getting a freebie town pass from most people inexplicably.

Surprise
geript
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September 24 2013 00:59 GMT
#2591
No. Palmar can go fuck himself.
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September 24 2013 01:01 GMT
#2600
Deadline?
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September 24 2013 01:04 GMT
#2611
So we should stop posting right?
geript
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September 24 2013 01:06 GMT
#2613
Did I misjudge the actual deadline. Dammit
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September 24 2013 02:05 GMT
#2688
On September 24 2013 11:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 10:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ugh what is it with people who join games with no intention of playing? Like, I guess I appreciate the gesture guy, but I would have preferred if the slot had been filled with someone who actually WANTED to play.


Keep in mind that this game was open for decades and when I joined it wasn't even close to full, hindsight is 20/20 lol. You aren't missing much, my town game is horrid

I'm glad you recognize how awful your play always is and will be.
geript
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September 24 2013 02:13 GMT
#2695
That's an odd set of kills for sure.
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September 24 2013 02:35 GMT
#2711
On September 24 2013 11:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
[image loading]

gg peace

Yup.... You're so right. You're always soo right. LOL. I'm going to be pushing for a permanent ban for you for this post alone. Dead bitches don't speak and you're both
geript
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September 24 2013 16:04 GMT
#2865
On September 25 2013 01:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 01:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't do it dude - refraining is for pussies. You're not a pussy are you marv?


I'm a well-known pussy

Are you my mommy instead?
geript
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September 24 2013 16:12 GMT
#2876
There's only one point I want to make before I go into work. The BH kill really bothers me. It reminds me of the kill we made in The Game on a replacement who was a good player (I forget who it was) specifically to keep the thread off track. Feels like the same situation.
geript
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September 24 2013 16:23 GMT
#2890
On September 25 2013 01:12 geript wrote:
There's only one point I want to make before I go into work. The BH kill really bothers me. It reminds me of the kill we made in The Game on a replacement who was a good player (I forget who it was) specifically to keep the thread off track. Feels like the same situation.

Did everyone miss this?
geript
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September 24 2013 16:30 GMT
#2900
Very simply you of all people should understand VE. I think scum have 2-4 active players controlling the thread similar to in The Game. I think they want to keep thread control.
geript
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September 24 2013 16:33 GMT
#2905
No it's not. We did that in the game.
geript
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September 25 2013 06:12 GMT
#3249
Mocsta... can you just do your point summaries for why you think I'm scum. I'm interested to hear it. You're wrong but I don't really care. It's just a real struggle to keep up and post and think about stuff and I'm not having a good game/set of games/whatever.
geript
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September 25 2013 06:36 GMT
#3260
Ok so here's where my mind's at. The night kills were super odd in many ways. I'm assuming that the NKs were Yam/BH/Wos; we could make an interesting argument that BH/VA/WoS were the shots and that Coag is actually scum, but I see very little reason to do so there. Yam/BH/WoS isn't awful I guess. but with both VE and Marv in a game I'd fully expect if both of them were town that both of them would be targeted as it's unlikely that both would be medic'd. In the very least I'd expect a doublestack on one of them and then a freebie shot at BH.

Here's the problem that I'm seeing: town got into a shitty place on D1 which is amazing for scum (yes part of that is my fault) and the best priority for scum in this type of situation is to do their best to keep it that way. So the highest priority for scum is not to remove blues but rather to remove people who can bring the thread on track. WoS is ignored half the time despite being a decent player. Yam can bring a thread on track but just as often derail a thread into "No You're scum" posting. Vayne (if he was a scum shot) is intentionally worthless until endgame.

Rather my priority as scum would be to remove active quality players of which the available shots would be: VE, Marv, DP (prior to rage quit), Mocsta, Rayn and a few others. So what's the point in shooting WoS or Yam/Vayne over any of those five. I'm honestly not seeing it. There's a shit ton of scum (6); there's an amazing KP rate (1/2 round up), town seems to be mostly inactive. Where's any sort of benefit of not trying to remove the "get on track" type people to keep the thread in a clusterfucked situation?

I've only seen odd kills like this in two drastically different situations: mostly inactive scum where NKs going through is far more important than anything else and mostly active experienced scum where they need a bit of time to hide before it becomes obvious. I'm not sure that Mattchew is right about Marv, but I really think that we should be taking hard looks at Marv/VE/etc. again because I'd bet that a number of the "pro scummers" are scum.
geript
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September 25 2013 06:37 GMT
#3262
And yes Mocsta before you ask, I'm clearly pulling the pro-scum Mocsta scum tell of insta-subject change in the middle of other matters.
geript
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September 25 2013 06:48 GMT
#3271
On September 25 2013 15:40 Mocsta wrote:Did is so full of dumb.

No it's not. NK analysis isn't something that happens much around here, but it's the strongest tell out there right now.

Did you know your push on Marv, aligns with the timing of MattChew push on Marv?
Did you know as scum in personality2, we left marv alive intentionally?
Did you know in desert, marv & hapa was left alive until hapa claimed doc?

1.Yah I saw his post. I didn't think much of the Mattchew stuff because I haven't opened Marv's filter (or anyone elses) yet today.
2. It's not a matter of leaving Marv alive. It's a matter of leaving VE/Marv/Rayn/You alive over WoS. It's not like scum can expect by leaving the 'pros' alive it makes it any more likely that they won't get doc'd because we likely have at least 2 docs (I'm personally betting 3 docs 3 vig's minimum)
3. Don't know, don't care.

Wtf? WoS was a solid NK, as he was a low possibilty medic rank (and also had a scum read on you at the end of his filter)

Sure he's a solid NK but not a solid NK on N1. There's better value around so why take 3 Tier 2 shots at best.

Why are you refusing to provide comment/analysis on the mattchew situation
You clearly know whats going on, as you commented on mattchew chasing marv...

Because I skimmed it and haven't read Marv's filter or any of VE/Rayn/You since D1. I see very little point but there are lots of little things that have been nagging at me all game and if I had a gun right now I'd shoot VE in the face then if he flips scum I'd shoot Marv.
geript
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September 25 2013 06:51 GMT
#3273
After I sleep and get my errands done tomorrow I intend to take a very long look at Mocsta/VE/Marv/Rayn tomorrow.
geript
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September 25 2013 06:54 GMT
#3277
On September 25 2013 15:51 Mattchew wrote:
I cant picture a world of ve and marv on the same scumteam based on their interactions.... But if im wrong that would be so wild

Actually there was an early set of interactions at they had that came off as very weird to me. I know that they've hydra'd a bunch and stuff, but I never really got the sense that they were jockeying with each other at all and that seemed very odd to me as in my experience usually the good players like to try and get a feel for the other good players. Sure maybe I'm just on a bad streak, but those NKs still really bother me and the fact that everyone's been happy to gloss over them without any thought is exceptionally disturbing.
geript
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September 25 2013 06:56 GMT
#3278
On September 25 2013 15:54 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 15:51 geript wrote:
After I sleep and get my errands done tomorrow I intend to take a very long look at Mocsta/VE/Marv/Rayn tomorrow.

Good to know you wont bother looking at the leading lynch candidate in detail

But if you change ya mind.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=143#2850

Look Moc I like you. I will even remind you that I was scum on Mattchew before I think anyone else. Maybe I just remember the thoughts I've had in my head and didn't post them in the thread. But you're not going to be able to bully me this game and the fact that you're pushing this hard in such an odd manner reminds me much more of your play in goldrush or whatever it was.
geript
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September 25 2013 07:01 GMT
#3280
You don't know Moc at all then and are using retarded heuristics.
geript
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September 25 2013 08:24 GMT
#3291
On September 25 2013 16:38 Mocsta wrote:
Thnx for the list.

I agree with a couple on ya tier1

Can u give some comment to what transpired with mattychew defense.

Moc. 1 question for you. Are you town?
geript
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September 25 2013 08:29 GMT
#3293
On September 25 2013 17:25 FirmTofu wrote:
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On September 25 2013 17:20 Mocsta wrote:
So u were comfortable with how he diffused the case? Is that correct firmtofu?

And did u think the marv content was relevant to this game. Or just generic spiel around marv in his prime?

Well, he didn't diffuse the case at all. That's another thing I have a problem with. He just decided to say, "I don't ened to defend myself, I'll just post other bullshit to look town," Again, bad play from either alignment and therefore not really alignment indicative.

Everything Mattchew posted about about marv was terrible. All wrong and twisted.

Pray tell how it was twisted and wrong. All I see is you trying to wriggle out of the noose.
geript
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September 25 2013 08:45 GMT
#3298
I'm not sure if I should vote for Moc or tofu. Ok now really night night.
geript
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September 25 2013 08:50 GMT
#3299
Actually moment of insight. Tofu is scum. I'll explain in the morning.
geript
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September 25 2013 08:56 GMT
#3302
Because I can make it all pretty sounding so people might actually listen. Plus I want to check some early D2 stuff because it's coming together in my head.
geript
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September 25 2013 08:59 GMT
#3304
Oh and Mocsta... I still want you to answer my question.
geript
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September 25 2013 22:24 GMT
#3678
On September 26 2013 07:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 07:02 Cephiro wrote:
Reply to JAT considering my vote: I am not making a placeholder vote for now. I'd obviously want a scumread of mine to be lynched, but I will have to look at the options which are realistic closer to the deadline.

What about the current candidates besides you?

You know, I haven't really coalesced my feeling about this statement and it's been thrown around a fuck ton this game; but I don't think I've really seen it before to the same extent. It's just an idiotic statement as town "Uh who of the guys who are currently up for lynch are likely scum?" It assumes that only the current candidates are scum. Either I'm having an awful game or I'm right on track. I'm voting marv and saying fuck it for the night.
geript
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September 26 2013 01:05 GMT
#3872
Yah. I could lynch Zara. Ok.
geript
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September 26 2013 02:06 GMT
#4013
On September 26 2013 11:01 iamperfection wrote:
someone vig geript tonight by the way

This
geript
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September 26 2013 02:13 GMT
#4019
On September 26 2013 11:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Second day in a row geript shows up last minute to sheep

Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 11:09 Pandain wrote:
On August 13 2011 02:47 Koshi wrote:
On August 13 2011 02:43 Caphe wrote:
Now this is really weird. Minute ago, I cant get the stream working on 500KB. Give up, turn on uTorrent to download some porns. Few minutes later try my luck again and now the stream is working perfectly on 2.2mb O_O.
Guess even stream would like some porns too

Interesting story, where do you download this porn? I think that my "stream" also needs some. :°)



wat

And. That makes me scum? No. You're scum.
geript
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September 26 2013 02:17 GMT
#4032
Moc that's some bullshit and you should know better. You're fully on my scum list too. 3docs, 3 gigs, 3cops vs 2 RB, 2 gf and 2 framers. There's no reason to fake counter a doc.
geript
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September 26 2013 02:19 GMT
#4039
On September 26 2013 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 11:17 geript wrote:
Moc that's some bullshit and you should know better. You're fully on my scum list too. 3docs, 3 gigs, 3cops vs 2 RB, 2 gf and 2 framers. There's no reason to fake counter a doc.

?

That's the setup. I'd put money on it. Cops should fully ignore any checks they get.
geript
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September 26 2013 02:19 GMT
#4041
On September 26 2013 11:18 Coagulation wrote:
sad thing is Moc is prolly town and his fakeclaim bullshit will end up getting 2 townies lynched.

You're scum too.
geript
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September 26 2013 02:20 GMT
#4044
Actually no. Imp robot crazy for thinking that. But either you have conf town status and haven't done shit.
geript
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September 26 2013 02:21 GMT
#4046
Yah. I even asked to roll. Scum this game. I was going to be all try hard and shit.
geript
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September 26 2013 02:27 GMT
#4048
Mark my words. Cops are highly unlikely to get useful checks this game period. You're stupid if you can't see why.
geript
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September 26 2013 21:25 GMT
#4443
VE made one good point, if FT is town then that lynch should've been way easier to push. That said, it could be an honest to god scum slip. Right now I don't care. I think both Marv and Mocsta are town Guess I really need to get my tryhard pants to so that I don't get lynched D3 on policy or out of spite.

Koshi is in my lynch pile. I'm hoping someone shoots S&B (DP) or that he gets modkilled. I'd like to flip Mattchew too after thinking about it.

For everyone bitching about how I can play better than this, Yes you're right. But I have ~2 hours to devote to reading per day an that can't keep up with a 200+ page thread. For me to be good, I need to be able to read the thread 5-6 times and then filter dive on top of that. Get over it. I'm doing the best I can for right now.
geript
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September 26 2013 21:42 GMT
#4449
On September 27 2013 06:34 Koshi wrote:
geript. Why do you think you might get lynched?

Calling me lynchbait this game would be slanderous to lynchbaiters around the world.
geript
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September 26 2013 21:43 GMT
#4451
On September 27 2013 06:41 Mattchew wrote:
Geript why me?

Gut read.
geript
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September 26 2013 21:48 GMT
#4454
On September 27 2013 06:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 06:41 Mattchew wrote:
Geript why me?

More relevant, why NOT me?

I don't know how I feel about you. Like you're obviously not the town VE I know and love, but this game is a series of clusterfuckedness that I have no clue how I'd expect you to be responding. I don't see you following you normal thought progressions which bothers me but you also didn't in the Other game we both hydra'd. The really odd set of vote switches that iirc you were a part of first onto FT early, then you and Rayn iirc midday to someone else the again later bug the fuck out of me but I haven't looked back at them yet.
geript
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September 26 2013 21:50 GMT
#4456
On September 27 2013 06:46 marvellosity wrote:
Anyone who thinks marv could be mafia at this stage has a decent chance of being mafia

just downgraded matt in my spreadsheet to null purely based on that

D:

This is a pretty stupid heuristic. I'm stealing it. Anyone who thinks I'm scum are now scum in my eyes.
geript
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September 26 2013 21:51 GMT
#4458
On September 27 2013 06:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 06:41 Mattchew wrote:
Geript why me?

More relevant, why NOT me?

Really and truly, I miss the days when you were all hearts and unicorns towards me.
geript
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September 26 2013 21:52 GMT
#4459
On September 27 2013 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
in my last towngame, it caught 3/3 mafia

It probably be more accurate for me if I used the "people who think I'm town are scum" derivative.
geript
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September 26 2013 22:05 GMT
#4463
Bad heuristic. I called out WoS cop claim as scum to try and lynch him.
geript
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September 27 2013 01:55 GMT
#4560
On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote:
Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order

1) cephiro
2) mocsta
3) firmtofu

And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap.

Wtf. You think Marv is scum and tell us to lynch his scum read? Lynch this motherfucker.
geript
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September 27 2013 01:56 GMT
#4562
But you should both be commenting in Arisen's last post. It's awful and scummy.
geript
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September 27 2013 02:11 GMT
#4583
On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote:
Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order

1) cephiro
2) mocsta
3) firmtofu

And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap.

Read this again folks. Risen is scum.
geript
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September 27 2013 02:31 GMT
#4597
On September 27 2013 11:12 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 10:56 geript wrote:
But you should both be commenting in Arisen's last post. It's awful and scummy.

I get that... But
Do u think scum that is killing marv.. would then do what risen did?.. I.e. advocate to kill marv?

I don't think so. It's pointless.

That's an awful heuristic. Scum talk about who the kill all the time. That isn't the point of it.

Risen wrote:
1. Marv is scum
2. If I get shot and Marv doesn't, lynch Marv's guaranteed scum lynch first

Tell me that is any sort of town thought process. He doesn't want to push the Marv point too hard but he also doesn't want to get away from the bus/mislynch/whatever Ceph flips.
geript
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September 27 2013 02:33 GMT
#4599
On September 27 2013 11:29 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 10:55 geript wrote:
On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote:
Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order

1) cephiro
2) mocsta
3) firmtofu

And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap.

Wtf. You think Marv is scum and tell us to lynch his scum read? Lynch this motherfucker.


I didn't think marv was scum. If you read the second half of my post it clearly said scum can't let marv live with the way he was directing town. Even if he was wrong it goes against scum trying to control the lynch. As you can see, he died.

TL;DR: Geript learn to read, ##vote: Cephiro

How is "And somewhere find a way to kill Marv" supposed to be read as?
geript
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September 27 2013 02:46 GMT
#4605
On September 27 2013 11:35 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 11:33 geript wrote:
On September 27 2013 11:29 Risen wrote:
On September 27 2013 10:55 geript wrote:
On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote:
Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order

1) cephiro
2) mocsta
3) firmtofu

And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap.

Wtf. You think Marv is scum and tell us to lynch his scum read? Lynch this motherfucker.


I didn't think marv was scum. If you read the second half of my post it clearly said scum can't let marv live with the way he was directing town. Even if he was wrong it goes against scum trying to control the lynch. As you can see, he died.

TL;DR: Geript learn to read, ##vote: Cephiro

How is "And somewhere find a way to kill Marv" supposed to be read as?

You should probably read the line directly after it. No one is this bad, this isn't OMGUS I'm throwing out, here. Geript is scum who got caught trying to change the lynch and now he's scrambling.

Nope you slipped your thought process. If you thought Marv was town, then you wouldn't want him dead ever. Period. Especially as he was the best active player around and a leader. I'm not scrambling here; you are. You aren't even trying to address the points. You did OMGUS and took it too "too stupid to be town." You're not even trying to make a credible argument. You slipped. I know it. You know it. The thread should know it. Your mom knows it; btw she told me to tell you that she says hi.
geript
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September 27 2013 03:10 GMT
#4608
On September 27 2013 11:52 Risen wrote:
Is this really how Geript plays? If you're town dude... yeesh, no wonder TL towns are so bad. People like you. If you're scum like I think you are, step it up. You're still bad.

Plus, if you think that Marv was on track, why not just find more stuff to further convince people on Ceph? Your post was a 'mandatory' need to make a post post. None of it makes any sense. You're just hopping on Marv's dick to look active and shit. Hell, you don't even care about the Ceph lynch, if you did, you'd be engaging on reasons for why to lynch him and then Moc and then FT. You don't have any interest in pushing a lynch, just +1 and prodding them along while they get moving.

On top of that, how do you know that this town is that bad? You scum? Really though, let's assume for a second that you are town. Why didn't you include yourself in the problem too? It's not like you've done shit to get the thread on track. I bet your voting history is pretty sweet too.

Plus, iirc Marv was scum on you too and wanted you dead. You don't seem to be hopping all over his dick on that one. What gives ?
geript
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September 27 2013 03:11 GMT
#4609
Rabid dog mode enabled.
geript
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September 27 2013 03:22 GMT
#4614
On September 27 2013 12:15 Risen wrote:
And I like how Geript ignored the possibility of marv bussing his team after realizing how screwed they are.

So now you're trying to suggest that you thought Marv was bussing a teammate? I'll be straight up before you slipped I didn't have a single solid scum read.

Also, now who's trying to... I believe the phrase you used was "nitpick?" You're not even actually trying to push a reason for why I'm scum. Just "I no scum. U scum. Ppl see how he scummy right?" Answer my questions or I will bully this whole thread to vote you unanimously.
geript
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September 27 2013 03:25 GMT
#4615
On September 27 2013 12:18 Risen wrote:
Why are mocsta and geript the only ones posting in the thread? What is this, a game run by scum? (Pro-tip: that would be why they killed marv, and why I called them killing marv if he was town)

If you're town, why can't you grow a pair and find reasons for us being scum? Hell, I even made it easy by practically playing to my perceived scum meta. If you're town, why can't you give a straight answer about your thought process so other townies can see it?
geript
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September 27 2013 03:44 GMT
#4624
On September 27 2013 12:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm taking Mocsta down. FUCK YEAH!!!

What do you think of Risen and why?
geript
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September 27 2013 04:14 GMT
#4641
On September 27 2013 13:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Mocsta is the enemy of order. He seeks your confusion and doubt. He breathes your fear and loathing. He must be stopped, or we will surely all perish.

Shut up scum. You're next after we lynch Risen.
geript
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September 27 2013 04:27 GMT
#4657
One quick point before my phone dies. Town VE wouldn't necessarily follow up on my risen read, but he'd follow up on rise a response. His response is really fucking scummy and VE ignoring it entirely to lead a third lynch is way off base. Even more off base is the fact that VE isn't making a real hard push for why Moc is scum. Risen made a bad post and got caught. Be tried to cover for him. Risen continued to pander. Scum had to improvise while VE was mysteriously absent from thread to figure out how to respond and chainsawed onto Moc.
geript
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September 27 2013 04:28 GMT
#4658
On September 27 2013 13:25 FirmTofu wrote:
Has anyone here played games with Coagulation? I have no idea how to read him. Help a brotha out?

STAHP!!!!!! Risen is scum. Read from end of night up to now.
geript
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September 27 2013 04:46 GMT
#4669
FT coag is a vig. He claimed shot vs Vayne and we have 3 confirmed a aka night 1. Read the fucking thread or get mod killed.
geript
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September 27 2013 17:50 GMT
#4752
On September 28 2013 01:17 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:12 Mocsta wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:01 Risen wrote:
Not only that Mocsta, but his play, imo, looks very similar to his scum play in our last game together. And even though I'm not one for meta reads, he was scummy last game, too. I just wanted him alive because I needed his soul :<

LOl... i appreciate the agreement.. but, was I not a scum read for you prior?

Do you think I am bussing Mr.CC with that case?

Yes. I always talk to my scum reads, I just flipped my shit b/c Geript.

No you flipped your shit because you got caught. Want to explain your reasoning before I get back from work and move the vote onto you?
geript
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September 27 2013 18:15 GMT
#4757
On September 28 2013 02:58 Risen wrote:
OO you don't want me to hold you, the proxy rage will just blow you up and you'll get banned. I'm seriously happy iamp stopped me.

You're here answer my questions. You came back with this:

On September 28 2013 01:46 Risen wrote:
Zaragon the sad thing is that I actually have a very strong null read on Mocsta, but he has to be lynched. Not while we have so many clearly scummy people (Cephiro, Mr. CC, FT, Geript) but certainly once those four are taken care of. This has to be done because we can't allow scum in the future to think they can fake claim and get away with it. Fake claiming doctor and getting a doctor claim lynch is the bottom of the barrel in terms of play.

It's so unaligned with town regardless of anything that it has to be punished. When making plays like that you're pretty much fulfilling the traitor roll. I'm a huge fan of big plays, I love them, but only when I'm scum. Scum are the only ones who can afford to make big plays because the potential payout is so huge and scum has access to nearly all information. Acting on such limited information means town should not ever make big plays like that.

Why does he have to be lynched? Why are you sad about it? Why do you care more about "punishing play" right now than actually you know winning the game and convincing people that you want to lynch scum and that the person who you're pushing is scum.

WHY THE FUCK IS NOBODY AT ALL EXCEPT FOR ME TALKING ABOUT HOW FUCKING SCUMMY RISEN IS????????????
geript
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September 27 2013 19:46 GMT
#4763
Jat. Look at risen and give me your read on him.
geript
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September 27 2013 22:02 GMT
#4780
WTF MZ?????? Srsly?
geript
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September 27 2013 22:30 GMT
#4785
On September 28 2013 07:25 kitaman27 wrote:
What have I gotten myself into -_-

Probably will take me a couple days to catch up fully.

Somebody give me major points of interest if you don't mind.

Also, do we have a full day or a few hours left in the cycle?

Risen, VE and mattchew are scum. Mocsta is town despite a bonehead play to lynch a claimed doc with confirmed heal over Ceph. Ceph is a scummy coin flip despit Marv 's 100% scum promise. VE is scum. Risen is Scum. Mattchew is scum. Coag is confirmed town. That's about it.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 28 2013 05:21 GMT
#4796
It's a recurring gut read.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 28 2013 15:02 GMT
#4823
Rayne. Look at risen too.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 29 2013 02:45 GMT
#4844
So why are we playing? Nobody knows the deadline and nobody can keep a deadline.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 29 2013 08:01 GMT
#4915
On September 29 2013 15:06 Risen wrote:
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On September 29 2013 14:58 iamperfection wrote:
On September 29 2013 14:22 Umasi wrote:
On September 29 2013 12:51 iamperfection wrote:
On September 29 2013 12:47 Umasi wrote:
On September 29 2013 12:28 Mocsta wrote:
On September 29 2013 12:08 Umasi wrote:
awesome, believe in marv and he shall deliver.
I think we should lynch mocsta tomorrow

what has marv got to do with lynching me? He was never pushing me as a primary lynch.

This is pretty fucking scummy to do.

Explain NAIO!

believe in marv and he shall deliver referring to cephiro.
lynch you 100% because of policy imo.
(policy referring to your retarded doctor fakeclaim)

why do you want a policy lynch when we need to reduce mafia kp


Because if mocsta is town, what he did is basically inexcusable, and needs to be punished.
If he's mafia, A: we caught mafia and B: the ridiculous behavior is punished.

my question for you, general masses, is IS THERE A COMPELLING REASON TO NOT VOTE FOR MOCSTA?

'there are some reasons he is townie, and he isn't 100% scum...' is an incorrect answer, btw.

wat

are one goal is to lynch scum not punish stupidity.


And what could possibly be more scummy than fakeclaiming doctor to kill a claimed doctor?

"Scum wouldn't do something like that because they know they'd get lynched!"

Really? Because it looks like Mocsta isn't getting lynched right now... so viable scum play? Fake claiming doctor was scummy as shit, Mocsta needs to die. BEFORE Mocsta, though, I think the people who tried to start movements away from Cephiro need to be examined. From a town perspective, there was going to be no other lynch. Proposing another lynch had only the potential to confuse people and allow for scum shenans (at that point they still have 6 people and once momentum starts elsewhere some idiot townie is bound to follow). The people that immediately jump to mind are Geript and VE.


Not that anyone will listen to me, but risen has been pandering to the flavor of the day forever. Just shoot him and be done with it already.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 29 2013 22:24 GMT
#4952
Let's see did risen try to point out how either Moc or me are scum? Nope. He's not even bothering.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 29 2013 23:38 GMT
#4954
On September 30 2013 07:28 Risen wrote:
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On September 30 2013 07:24 geript wrote:
Let's see did risen try to point out how either Moc or me are scum? Nope. He's not even bothering.

I normally wouldn't respond to you, but this post just strengthens my points so I'm going to quote it. In spite of trying to pressure me, he continues to not read my posts fully. I very clearly outlined why both of you are scum.
Mocsta: Most scum aligned play I've ever seen saving another scum player.
Geript: Attempted to move the wagon away from Ceph, who we now know is scum. Continues to not read the posts of the person he harps on.

So me attempting to move the wagon means that I'm specifically scum. Now you're bullshitting entirely because VE attempted to do the same exact thing but you're not 100% scum on him for that reason. You're scum and need to be shot and if a vig doesn't shoot you this game and instead listens to you and shoots me then I will rage so hard at that stupid motherfucker in postgame and obs thread that they'll wish their unborn child had died instead.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 29 2013 23:42 GMT
#4955
On September 30 2013 04:54 Risen wrote:
Geript next because he's been harping on me STILL. He tried swaying the lynch away from Ceph at a time when that was possible with bad town play. I'm serious, his defense is probably either "Oh Risen top scum read so of course town me presses on him". No. Other defense possible would be "Oh I knew no one would swap but I wanted to pressure him". Still no.

Lastly VE, who tried swapping to someone I can't remember at this point. I told him it was not town, and he continued. To me that reads as someone who figures if they stop it will be considered wishy washy and scummy. A town player wouldn't worry about that and would just keep the pressure up. Scum player would worry and keep the crazy on b/c he would try to appear consistent. This is reaching, though. After those other two are gone there will be like 6 more days of filter to look at for him, so no hurry.

On September 30 2013 07:28 Risen wrote:
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On September 30 2013 07:24 geript wrote:
Let's see did risen try to point out how either Moc or me are scum? Nope. He's not even bothering.

I normally wouldn't respond to you, but this post just strengthens my points so I'm going to quote it. In spite of trying to pressure me, he continues to not read my posts fully. I very clearly outlined why both of you are scum.
Mocsta: Most scum aligned play I've ever seen saving another scum player.
Geript: Attempted to move the wagon away from Ceph, who we now know is scum. Continues to not read the posts of the person he harps on.

On top of all of the other bullshit he's spewing, he's not even reading his own posts. He's posting with 0 thought en total. He's not trying to figure out why Moc or I are scum. He's just trying to paint us red. He says one thing is towny, then in the next post he calls it scummy.

RISEN IS NOT CONCERNED WITH GETTING A SCUM LYNCH AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RISEN IS FUCKING SCUM BECAUSE HE'S CONCERNED WITH GETTING ANY AVAILABLE LYNCH FOR WHATEVER BULLSHIT REASON HE WANTS AT THE TIME!!!!! HE DOESN'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT WHO OR WHAT OR WHY OR WHEN.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 00:07 GMT
#4957
On September 24 2013 08:17 Risen wrote:
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On September 24 2013 08:14 marvellosity wrote:
thoughts on Ceph VE? Or anyone who cares to read it?


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On September 23 2013 11:01 Cephiro wrote:
Okay, voting for LoneMeow because:

1) He's appareantly a new player I have no idea of
2) He started martyring which is something I dislike
3) This Ray guy on a quick look doesn't look like he should be killed
4) I have no idea about this FirmTofu guy
5) Some other wagons that were in the last votecount have players that I'm familiar with and am able to read during nightphase


Wat... Worst justification for not voting FT ever.

First off, Risen calls out Ceph for bad reasoning which is EASY TO DO as scum on scum. The important difference is how he follows up. He's not interested in pressuring him. He's not interested in trying to throw the "public town eye" further towards him. He doesn't do shit about it.

On September 24 2013 12:20 Risen wrote:
FT/Cephiro the lynch targets here. I'll vote Cephiro. Don't trust the #stagedhype surrounding FT lynch.

On September 24 2013 12:21 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: Nope, never mind. No way a town FT comes out with a vote on VE.

Instavote and insta switch. Again SUPER EASY justification to switch his vote off of scum. As town, I don't give a fuck who I vote for; I'll throw my weight around as I want and pressure like a hammer in thread or in vote. Nor do I generally care who the fuck votes for who because it doesn't help me. But one thing I know is that throwing out an odd vote is odd and it's fine to pressure for that but justifying voting for someone who you "don't believe the hype" on and then instaswitch on them just for a weird vote is ridiculously odd and scummy.

On September 24 2013 12:25 Risen wrote:
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On September 24 2013 12:22 yamato77 wrote:
I'm confirmed town, so what I say actually goes today.

We lynch Sentinel.


No you aren't. Unless a doctor claims the save you could easily just be saying you got protected and you're scum. Doctor don't claim, though... that would be stupid.

Next Risen tries to discredit Yam despite the fact that the only way Yam is scum pulling this off is if Coag is also scum. 2 people pulling that type of play as scum is gutsy and stupid and puts you at risk for very little reason. He's not furthering the discussion or pushing a point other than throwing dirt. SCUM SCUM SCUM

On September 25 2013 02:41 Risen wrote:
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On September 24 2013 23:59 Mocsta wrote:
On September 24 2013 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the hell Mocsta. FT is one of the key people to discuss atm..

Maybe, like if you want to discuss him. I won't stop you at all.

From my perpsective, we are 4 townies down (luckily only 1 blue.. which arguably was a good outcome.. newbie with parity in a game with framer/GF = mindfucks).

Hence, I'm looking at best chance to ensure a scum lynch this cycle.
I can say with my heart on sleeve, yes... FT can flip scum.. but the *can* is not confident; and Im not sure how much talking about it, will resolve that. Hes just a selfish*cunt* of a player. I actually really hate FT, and might consider not joining games with him again. [If town.. I just know post-game he will complain about how obvious town he was, and everyone is stupid]

Im just saying, I think ppl like pandain and sentinel and lonemeow are a much higher percentage to get that first red blood. Therefore, it makes sense to narrow/focus the towns brain trust on that subset of players.

That hasn't been confirmed. How do you know there's a framer/GF in this game?

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On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
SNIP

This is a semi closed setup, the roles are known but the exact number is not. Not all of these roles may be present in the game.

SNIP


Nitpick here, but it seems pretty scummy to me. It isn't a full blown scumslip, but it's something a townie should realize before posting whereas someone with the knowledge that both roles are actively in the game might screw up.

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On September 25 2013 01:47 marvellosity wrote:
On September 24 2013 06:34 Risen wrote:
If VA is alive at daypost I'll be pretty surprised.


Risen, can you explain this comment?


A town VA is someone I'd kill if I was scum. Dude pretty much had lynch armor because of my actions toward him. Though keeping him alive would have made a mislynch onto me much easier so maybe he wasn't a very good kill.


My scum reads are
Cephiro, FT, Mocsta, Sentinel

First three have been explained, Sentinel because of what OO just pointed out. I'm down for lynching anyone here, but would definitely prefer Cephiro or FT. Probably FT at this point.

Mocsta and Sent scum reads come out of nowhere. The Mocsta read is complete bullshit as anyone who's read the OP would fully expect Framers/GF/whatever. Hell, we didn't even fucking know that Vanilla Scum could exist. More importantly, this was at the time when many people were leaning towards on Sent. No anaylsis of him just a generic +1 of a lynch. Bottom line: FT, Moc and Sent are town because Risen is scum and scum never put more than 1 other scum in their list.

On September 25 2013 02:46 Risen wrote:
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On September 25 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:
If anyone was curious about my little unvote-vote tango, it was because I remembered/found this:

On September 24 2013 13:21 Mattchew wrote:
Lol im like conf town mutha truckahs


And thought, oh my, we're lynching the doctor! So I unvoted. Then kept browsing his filter and noted that yamato was a scumread of his, so it makes zero sense for him having protected yamato. So I revoted.

Because doctors have never tried to hide over being 100% transparent town. Cmon marv... This isn't even a defense of Matt, it's just me pointing out a flaw for your vote/unvote/vote.

Why is Matt scum, again? I see no compelling reason to lynch Matt over FT. Marv should know this, especially since he's such a town leader at the moment and of the votes on Matt his is the only one that actually matters.

Why is this phrase necessary? If it's bullshit reasoning Marv should be called on the table for his read and vote/unvote/vote. This phrase is just him trying to not draw attention to himself. "Uhh i'm not calling you scum, I just want to get this clarified without really getting in the discussion."

On September 25 2013 04:50 Risen wrote:
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On September 25 2013 04:06 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm not against lynching either of Sentinel or FirmTofu, but I think I would still prefer Umasi. He's "kind of participating" but hasn't really said much anything at all.



Regarding Cephiro:

The apathy in itself is not alignment indicative; I checked some of his earlier games and in those he was active and involved both as scum and town.

On September 24 2013 11:44 Cephiro wrote:That said, we really need to lynch scum today. And since I'm still alive, I'm going to do my best to ensure that happens. Not too far from having read the whole thread properly either.


Where did you disappear? Been a long time since that post, and I know you're not away from your computer...




On September 25 2013 03:01 Stutters695 wrote:The only thing that makes me not 100% scum on him is the potential he's just overwhelmed, but in that case, he's made no effort to explain that and there is no justifiable reason for his


I don't usually bother to explain much since in my experience it just gets one lynched, but since you asked: I'm having some pretty big IRL issues both physically and mentally due to my injury.

And I feel like a bronze player dropped into grand master league.




Please update the first post with current players after the replacements and new deadline.


What a scummy defense making it try to look like the problem with Cephiro is apathy over the glaring faults in his posting.

So LeonMeow is scummier for voting for your scum read because of the specific reasons that he gives? Apathy can be a VERY VALID reason for being scum. Yet again, this is just shit flinging on another lynchable player.

On September 25 2013 12:40 Risen wrote:
FT saved yesterday, not getting lynched today. Makes sense. DP was right about mods saving FT b/c he's scum, imo.

More bullshit "reasons" for FT to be scum.

On September 25 2013 14:24 Risen wrote:
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On September 25 2013 13:44 iamperfection wrote:
risen what do you think of firms day 2?

I think he's been told by his scum buddies to keep quiet and not to mess things up for himself and more than he already has.

On September 25 2013 15:32 Risen wrote:
Really hope Matt is scum or I'm going to be in a tight spot. In other news, lynch FT. I could see a marv lynch, too. Or Cephiro who is still absent. Mocsta with the ole' "lol your post is too long and I'm scum so that's too much effort to respond to/opens me up too much to appearing scummy so I'm not changing my mind" post.

About an hour apart from each other. FT is scum because he's quiet and absent but Cephiro isnt. He's just trying to push the FT lynch over Ceph without giving himself a backdoor into the Ceph lynch if it becomes favorable.

On September 26 2013 02:21 Risen wrote:
I'm not moving my vote until it becomes clear Cephiro is going to be lynched over FT, who still, in spite of no redeeming qualities in his posting today, is not the leading lynch candidate. Team plz

Still pushing FT over Ceph.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 00:08 GMT
#4958
Bottom line.... FUCKING SHOOT RISEN ALREADY
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 00:17 GMT
#4961
On September 30 2013 09:11 Koshi wrote:
Ok so before I sleep. Kitaman confirmed town for anybody with a brain.

Tomorrow I ll find our lynch. Mocsta/rayn/VE/Risen all energy on those 4 people. FT feels like crapshoot atm.... but he can be 5 target.
Just use all available time on those. I'll look into all. But I know I prefer Mocsta for tomorrow.

I DEMAND THAT YOU TELL USE WHY KITA IS CONFIRMED TOWN AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WHY YOU PREFER MOCSTA OVER RISEN
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 00:18 GMT
#4962
@Rayn... what's your read on Koshi?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 01:24 GMT
#4971
On September 30 2013 10:19 Mocsta wrote:
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On September 30 2013 09:57 deconduo wrote:
On September 30 2013 09:11 Koshi wrote:
Ok so before I sleep. Kitaman confirmed town for anybody with a brain.

Tomorrow I ll find our lynch. Mocsta/rayn/VE/Risen all energy on those 4 people. FT feels like crapshoot atm.... but he can be 5 target.
Just use all available time on those. I'll look into all. But I know I prefer Mocsta for tomorrow.


My brain isn't working, so can you explain why Koshi is town. He hasn't done anything scummy, but nothing screams town at me from what he's said so far either.

he's town cos he still has a presence.

basically scumhave no reason to post unless pressured. which is how most town are acting currently.

therefore, koshis attempt to keep campaigning actively for a lynch, is townie by virtue.


I wish he posted actual logic, buy its still more effort than 90% of the thread.

Read my big ass post and tell me what you think of Risen and why I'm right.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 02:29 GMT
#4999
On September 30 2013 11:27 Risen wrote:
Yeah I have no idea why Umasi/Matt would be shot outside bluehunting. Horrible shots regardless. Anyways, anyone other than Mocsta want to give a concise reasoning as to why Mocsta shouldn't be the lynch today? Geript feel free to chime in on me being more scummy than Mocsta, it makes no sense and makes lynch #2 that much easier.

Care to explain exactly why you think Mocsta is scum? You know like make a case and shit?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 02:38 GMT
#5004
On September 30 2013 11:33 Risen wrote:
So VE is the patsy. Ballsy, but understandable. It's the person I'd push as scum to save Mocsta.

So why have you been "pushing off" lynching VE for a while then if you think he's the patsy?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 02:43 GMT
#5005
On September 30 2013 11:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What if they're both scum?

I've had a townread on Mocsta since like forever. I'd much rather lynch Risen than anyone else in the thread.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 02:49 GMT
#5009
On September 30 2013 11:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On September 30 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What if they're both scum?

I've had a townread on Mocsta since like forever. I'd much rather lynch Risen than anyone else in the thread.


Lynch VE instead of Risen plx. I had a townread on him forever as well which is why I don't particularly favor lynching him right now.

Just realized looking votecounts that Risen has throw away his vote on both d1/d2 lynches.

Scum generally spread the vote out and "throwing away" the vote on D1 when no one knew when the fucking deadline was could easily mean that he just never drew it elsewhere. Also... Didn't Risen end up on neither Ceph or LeonMeow on D2 and he actively pushed "Not Ceph" D2 while having the mysterious scum read on him. Isn't that suspicious to you at all?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 02:50 GMT
#5011
On September 24 2013 08:17 Risen wrote:
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On September 24 2013 08:14 marvellosity wrote:
thoughts on Ceph VE? Or anyone who cares to read it?


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On September 23 2013 11:01 Cephiro wrote:
Okay, voting for LoneMeow because:

1) He's appareantly a new player I have no idea of
2) He started martyring which is something I dislike
3) This Ray guy on a quick look doesn't look like he should be killed
4) I have no idea about this FirmTofu guy
5) Some other wagons that were in the last votecount have players that I'm familiar with and am able to read during nightphase


Wat... Worst justification for not voting FT ever.

First off, Risen calls out Ceph for bad reasoning which is EASY TO DO as scum on scum. The important difference is how he follows up. He's not interested in pressuring him. He's not interested in trying to throw the "public town eye" further towards him. He doesn't do shit about it.

On September 24 2013 12:20 Risen wrote:
FT/Cephiro the lynch targets here. I'll vote Cephiro. Don't trust the #stagedhype surrounding FT lynch.

On September 24 2013 12:21 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: Nope, never mind. No way a town FT comes out with a vote on VE.

Instavote and insta switch. Again SUPER EASY justification to switch his vote off of scum. As town, I don't give a fuck who I vote for; I'll throw my weight around as I want and pressure like a hammer in thread or in vote. Nor do I generally care who the fuck votes for who because it doesn't help me. But one thing I know is that throwing out an odd vote is odd and it's fine to pressure for that but justifying voting for someone who you "don't believe the hype" on and then instaswitch on them just for a weird vote is ridiculously odd and scummy.

On September 24 2013 12:25 Risen wrote:
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On September 24 2013 12:22 yamato77 wrote:
I'm confirmed town, so what I say actually goes today.

We lynch Sentinel.


No you aren't. Unless a doctor claims the save you could easily just be saying you got protected and you're scum. Doctor don't claim, though... that would be stupid.

Next Risen tries to discredit Yam despite the fact that the only way Yam is scum pulling this off is if Coag is also scum. 2 people pulling that type of play as scum is gutsy and stupid and puts you at risk for very little reason. He's not furthering the discussion or pushing a point other than throwing dirt. SCUM SCUM SCUM

On September 25 2013 02:41 Risen wrote:
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On September 24 2013 23:59 Mocsta wrote:
On September 24 2013 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the hell Mocsta. FT is one of the key people to discuss atm..

Maybe, like if you want to discuss him. I won't stop you at all.

From my perpsective, we are 4 townies down (luckily only 1 blue.. which arguably was a good outcome.. newbie with parity in a game with framer/GF = mindfucks).

Hence, I'm looking at best chance to ensure a scum lynch this cycle.
I can say with my heart on sleeve, yes... FT can flip scum.. but the *can* is not confident; and Im not sure how much talking about it, will resolve that. Hes just a selfish*cunt* of a player. I actually really hate FT, and might consider not joining games with him again. [If town.. I just know post-game he will complain about how obvious town he was, and everyone is stupid]

Im just saying, I think ppl like pandain and sentinel and lonemeow are a much higher percentage to get that first red blood. Therefore, it makes sense to narrow/focus the towns brain trust on that subset of players.

That hasn't been confirmed. How do you know there's a framer/GF in this game?

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On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
SNIP

This is a semi closed setup, the roles are known but the exact number is not. Not all of these roles may be present in the game.

SNIP


Nitpick here, but it seems pretty scummy to me. It isn't a full blown scumslip, but it's something a townie should realize before posting whereas someone with the knowledge that both roles are actively in the game might screw up.

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On September 25 2013 01:47 marvellosity wrote:
On September 24 2013 06:34 Risen wrote:
If VA is alive at daypost I'll be pretty surprised.


Risen, can you explain this comment?


A town VA is someone I'd kill if I was scum. Dude pretty much had lynch armor because of my actions toward him. Though keeping him alive would have made a mislynch onto me much easier so maybe he wasn't a very good kill.


My scum reads are
Cephiro, FT, Mocsta, Sentinel

First three have been explained, Sentinel because of what OO just pointed out. I'm down for lynching anyone here, but would definitely prefer Cephiro or FT. Probably FT at this point.

Mocsta and Sent scum reads come out of nowhere. The Mocsta read is complete bullshit as anyone who's read the OP would fully expect Framers/GF/whatever. Hell, we didn't even fucking know that Vanilla Scum could exist. More importantly, this was at the time when many people were leaning towards on Sent. No anaylsis of him just a generic +1 of a lynch. Bottom line: FT, Moc and Sent are town because Risen is scum and scum never put more than 1 other scum in their list.

On September 25 2013 02:46 Risen wrote:
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On September 25 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote:
If anyone was curious about my little unvote-vote tango, it was because I remembered/found this:

On September 24 2013 13:21 Mattchew wrote:
Lol im like conf town mutha truckahs


And thought, oh my, we're lynching the doctor! So I unvoted. Then kept browsing his filter and noted that yamato was a scumread of his, so it makes zero sense for him having protected yamato. So I revoted.

Because doctors have never tried to hide over being 100% transparent town. Cmon marv... This isn't even a defense of Matt, it's just me pointing out a flaw for your vote/unvote/vote.

Why is Matt scum, again? I see no compelling reason to lynch Matt over FT. Marv should know this, especially since he's such a town leader at the moment and of the votes on Matt his is the only one that actually matters.

Why is this phrase necessary? If it's bullshit reasoning Marv should be called on the table for his read and vote/unvote/vote. This phrase is just him trying to not draw attention to himself. "Uhh i'm not calling you scum, I just want to get this clarified without really getting in the discussion."

On September 25 2013 04:50 Risen wrote:
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On September 25 2013 04:06 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm not against lynching either of Sentinel or FirmTofu, but I think I would still prefer Umasi. He's "kind of participating" but hasn't really said much anything at all.



Regarding Cephiro:

The apathy in itself is not alignment indicative; I checked some of his earlier games and in those he was active and involved both as scum and town.

On September 24 2013 11:44 Cephiro wrote:That said, we really need to lynch scum today. And since I'm still alive, I'm going to do my best to ensure that happens. Not too far from having read the whole thread properly either.


Where did you disappear? Been a long time since that post, and I know you're not away from your computer...




On September 25 2013 03:01 Stutters695 wrote:The only thing that makes me not 100% scum on him is the potential he's just overwhelmed, but in that case, he's made no effort to explain that and there is no justifiable reason for his


I don't usually bother to explain much since in my experience it just gets one lynched, but since you asked: I'm having some pretty big IRL issues both physically and mentally due to my injury.

And I feel like a bronze player dropped into grand master league.




Please update the first post with current players after the replacements and new deadline.


What a scummy defense making it try to look like the problem with Cephiro is apathy over the glaring faults in his posting.

So LeonMeow is scummier for voting for your scum read because of the specific reasons that he gives? Apathy can be a VERY VALID reason for being scum. Yet again, this is just shit flinging on another lynchable player.

On September 25 2013 12:40 Risen wrote:
FT saved yesterday, not getting lynched today. Makes sense. DP was right about mods saving FT b/c he's scum, imo.

More bullshit "reasons" for FT to be scum.

On September 25 2013 14:24 Risen wrote:
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On September 25 2013 13:44 iamperfection wrote:
risen what do you think of firms day 2?

I think he's been told by his scum buddies to keep quiet and not to mess things up for himself and more than he already has.

On September 25 2013 15:32 Risen wrote:
Really hope Matt is scum or I'm going to be in a tight spot. In other news, lynch FT. I could see a marv lynch, too. Or Cephiro who is still absent. Mocsta with the ole' "lol your post is too long and I'm scum so that's too much effort to respond to/opens me up too much to appearing scummy so I'm not changing my mind" post.

About an hour apart from each other. FT is scum because he's quiet and absent but Cephiro isnt. He's just trying to push the FT lynch over Ceph without giving himself a backdoor into the Ceph lynch if it becomes favorable.

On September 26 2013 02:21 Risen wrote:
I'm not moving my vote until it becomes clear Cephiro is going to be lynched over FT, who still, in spite of no redeeming qualities in his posting today, is not the leading lynch candidate. Team plz

Still pushing FT over Ceph.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 02:56 GMT
#5015
On September 30 2013 11:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We don't know if FT is scum or not. So pushing FT over Ceph isn't scummy.

But the fact that he was pushing FT over Ceph while he had a mysterious scum read on Ceph isn't scummy to you? Does anyone even fucking read what I post?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 03:00 GMT
#5018
On September 30 2013 11:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On September 30 2013 11:49 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What if they're both scum?

I've had a townread on Mocsta since like forever. I'd much rather lynch Risen than anyone else in the thread.


Lynch VE instead of Risen plx. I had a townread on him forever as well which is why I don't particularly favor lynching him right now.

Just realized looking votecounts that Risen has throw away his vote on both d1/d2 lynches.

Scum generally spread the vote out and "throwing away" the vote on D1 when no one knew when the fucking deadline was could easily mean that he just never drew it elsewhere. Also... Didn't Risen end up on neither Ceph or LeonMeow on D2 and he actively pushed "Not Ceph" D2 while having the mysterious scum read on him. Isn't that suspicious to you at all?


Show me where he pushed "Not Ceph". I see he wanted FT/Ceph lynched.

Read his filter. I've quoted practically half of it it seems like. Yes he was "pushing" Ceph, but people bus. The primary goal of scum is to give themselves an out to bus WHILE PUSHING A DIFFERENT LYNCH!!!!! Multiple time's he's randomly promoted other people over Ceph for no good reason whatsoever while maintaining a mysterious never explained scum read on Ceph.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 03:02 GMT
#5021
On September 30 2013 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On September 30 2013 11:56 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We don't know if FT is scum or not. So pushing FT over Ceph isn't scummy.

But the fact that he was pushing FT over Ceph while he had a mysterious scum read on Ceph isn't scummy to you? Does anyone even fucking read what I post?



You can have a scumread on a guy but push your top scum read, it's not the end of the world.

And nobody reads what you post because you are fucking anti-town the entire game and when you finally decide to start playing nobody wants to hear it anymore. Sorry.


Fine then your loss for being anti-town for not listening at all. Lynch who you want. I'm fucking down.

MZ/Sol please modkill me I'm done with this shit and am not going to post ever again in this thread
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 30 2013 04:04 GMT
#5036
On September 30 2013 12:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On September 30 2013 12:02 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:56 geript wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We don't know if FT is scum or not. So pushing FT over Ceph isn't scummy.

But the fact that he was pushing FT over Ceph while he had a mysterious scum read on Ceph isn't scummy to you? Does anyone even fucking read what I post?



You can have a scumread on a guy but push your top scum read, it's not the end of the world.

And nobody reads what you post because you are fucking anti-town the entire game and when you finally decide to start playing nobody wants to hear it anymore. Sorry.


Fine then your loss for being anti-town for not listening at all. Lynch who you want. I'm fucking down.

MZ/Sol please modkill me I'm done with this shit and am not going to post ever again in this thread

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On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.

If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance!


This is blatantly against the rules. If you come back now I'm not gonna have a problem but if you actually bail then I WILL seek a ban for you after the game.

First off, now you've modconfirmed I'm town and Risen is scum
Second off, getting myself modkilled in no way helps town since there's no way I'd get lynched ever
Third, go ahead and get me banned. I don't give a fuck about that. This game as been so awfully run that I wouldn't want to continue regardless
Fourth, are you on fucking crack?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 05 2013 03:44 GMT
#6352
Really... You replaced scum in after you mod killed town... Not cool
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
October 05 2013 05:07 GMT
#6365
On October 05 2013 13:16 kitaman27 wrote:
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On October 05 2013 12:44 geript wrote:
Really... You replaced scum in after you mod killed town... Not cool


This was certainly the correct thing to do.

Malongo had zero posts and he was a replacement of a player also with zero posts.

kush was an active player who had to replace out for a legit reason.

Mods don't modkill to maintain balance, they do so to enforce the rules.

And the rules were no replacements after N2.
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