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On August 01 2013 05:43 Cephiro wrote: My return shall be made, perhaps in style, perhaps not. /in Look chez, you play and I'm going to shoot you. | ||
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On August 16 2013 18:36 Koshi wrote: Or a small normal. 18 is still not bad. 30 would have been cool though. We just need the Titanic crew and make it a 500 page game. Your wish is my command. | ||
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On September 19 2013 19:40 marvellosity wrote: Words cannot express how unappetising that looks We think the same of some of your food dear. Ours may make us like MC, but damn does it taste good. | ||
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On September 21 2013 11:47 DarthPunk wrote: Oh WTF?! you voted for me? I don't even know if your scum or just retarded for doing that. Yah you're scum. I wonder who else will see it. | ||
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On September 21 2013 11:56 DarthPunk wrote: LOL. Here is how you read VE. Call him scum and if he is town he will flip shit. Not even close to true. | ||
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On September 21 2013 11:34 DarthPunk wrote: So basically I agree with rayn, I want mocsta to tell us all he is policy voting Kush. Here's where he should've been looking. DP doesn't post like this as town. No real follow through or bite. Just throwaway generic DP townesque play. | ||
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But really why should I blow my wad all over DP just to see him not hang. First major push never gets lynched. | ||
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On September 21 2013 11:43 geript wrote: DarthPunk not being enough of an asshole. He's not town. So that's me saying I'm making a meta case. No DP is the only one who said shit about me making a meta case. Also. WoS needs to be lynched D2. | ||
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On September 21 2013 12:44 DarthPunk wrote: Firstly you're wrong. See GSL III. Secondly meta doesn't work on me. I keep telling you all and you all keep mis-using it. Thirdly I don't buy that you could have such a seemingly solid scum read on me based on that post. You keep spewing complete bullshit. I'm not going to drop a big as meta case. My points aren't based on meta. I'm not making shit about meta. I only use meta to read a very few people and for the rest it's just a way to accuse people. You're scum flat out get over it. | ||
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On September 21 2013 12:47 DarthPunk wrote: OK i changed my mind again you're just an idiot. That is clearly a meta case as you are saying as town I am more of an arsehole; therefore I am scum because I am not being enough of an arsehole. What the fuck does that statement even mean if it is not meta? Nope. Thought processes between town and scum change automatically. You being a pussy about how you're approaching people shows your innate fear. Very early passive play. | ||
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On September 21 2013 12:51 DarthPunk wrote: You keep saying your points are based on meta when they clearly are. I Think it is pointless talking to you anymore. Someone please vig geript. You'll be vig'd before I will. | ||
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On September 21 2013 12:56 DarthPunk wrote: Wow, you're argument has fundamentally changed after you got pressured. You are wrong so after this game if you are town I am going to shout at you about it in the post game. Anyway rayn is right. I'm not talking to you anymore as it is not productive. I would rather you get vigged than lynched. but I hope you die either way. Ok. Well you either get lynched today or I shoot you until you're dead. Enjoy bish. | ||
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On September 21 2013 11:34 DarthPunk wrote: So basically I agree with rayn, I want mocsta to tell us all he is policy voting Kush. This is an exceptionally passive way to tell Moc to do what he wants. It's an easy way to blend in and say nothing. It's like he's ordering a pizza, "I want a large with a side of Mocsta suggestions." Yes this is the type of thing that DP says at town numerous times in numerous games but additionally in those games this tends to come after a larger read or explanation or push. There's nothing important here whatsoever. On September 21 2013 11:44 DarthPunk wrote: He did the same thing as town in The Game. Or something similar. I jumped all over his arse for it then and he ended up tunnelling me stupidly in response. I don't think it really means anything nor do I think it is alignment indicative. I just thought it would be funny to CC an early VE vote. Cause, you know, he would get all butthurt. Haha. I absolutely loathe the "Haha" here. It doesn't follow from a town sentiment. It isn't a natural progression from "CC an early VE" vote to "VE gets all butthurt" to "Haha." The natural progression is: "take action to piss off VE" to "VE gets all butthurt" to "VE overreacts and shows his alignment" to "Haha." There's no push here to try and do anything to get a read here. This is just further filler fluff. On September 21 2013 12:07 DarthPunk wrote: Why not? It would help me read you both, So kind of useful for me. Town fights can be incredibly useful. It's often quite easy to convince town to detunnel and have 2 confirmed town. DP knows this. DP's gotten in shitfests a bunch. What we see here is not that DP is willing to get into a shitfest to get a read, but that he wants to start outside shitfests. He wants to create room to hide in the middle. On September 21 2013 12:19 DarthPunk wrote: I mean they aren't like super solid or anything, but both are in the thread posting at the start of the game which is more often townies than not. A few meta things from rayn and I liked his questioning about tunnelling VE. VE seems pretty townie due to his butthurt and the way he identified something really scummy and not super obvious about the way geript was behaving which I liked. Obviously this is all subject to change but I think it is likely that VE and rayn are town. Next, he's all over VE and Rayn both being town. I think he wants to make a doll that reads VE and Rayn are town and then marry it he's so enamored with the idea over and over and over. It's the comfort zone he falls into. I don't have a problem with that per se (although it's hella early to have 75% or better townreads so ridiculously early in the game when both look firmly null), it's that he's not thinking about that any further or pushing or prodding other people to find reads on them. He's not painting players green and moving on to re-look at them later to reaffirm or deny that read. On September 21 2013 12:14 DarthPunk wrote: I think this is really key when deciding if geript is town or scum. Like before you pointed this out VE I was basically assuming he was just bad town. But trying to push me THROUGH you is actually scummy rather than just bad. Not only does he do a generic +1 on me through VE, ironically, he can't even make up his mind on if I'm scum or if I'm town. I play however the fuck I want when I want how I want; but he's red on me and isn't willing to pressure me one of any number of available ways (directly by interaction, indirectly by amassing votes, etc.). He's fine with putting his toes in the water but not dive head in yet again. Scum. Straight up. | ||
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On September 21 2013 14:44 VisceraEyes wrote: 2) No I'm not saying "that early Day1: it is expected for scum to be controversial and then just say, im fucking off". That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that it's suspicious that he wanted ME to make a case on DP instead of explaining his reasoning himself. He was content that I was suspicious of DP and voting for him. That IS suspicious Mocsta, whether it's D1 or D9. That wasn't my sentiment at all. I just thought that your suspicion on him was for the wrong post. DGAF if you wrote a case or not. | ||
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On September 21 2013 23:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Rereading I can see where you're coming from with regard to geript Mocsta. And I find it an odd coincidence that you mention Wave as your next most suspicious. At the time all of that was going down, I thought geript and Wave were BOTH doing something you accused geript of, trying to whip DP into a fury. Anyway I'm awake and have read. I'd be happy to answer any questions anyone has of me. In the meantime, I'm pondering and still awaiting those who haven't joined us to chime in. Sure I just got done with CPR class. Since I've been playing less why have you become so bad at reading me? | ||
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On September 22 2013 00:00 Mocsta wrote: Is this a serious question? Out of everything in the thread, you are pulling up this quote; and completely taking it out of context? WTF Comeback when you have read the game... NOT a good start for you. Chill Moc, it's not that huge. I still don't get why you like DP at all. Either way lets move on a new subject some, can you fully explain why you don't like my wubbybumpkins? I have lots of little reservations about him. | ||
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On September 22 2013 02:15 DarthPunk wrote: If you think you have the right to call me bad considering the little you have done in this game you are delusional. Don't do it again. Lol. DP not only are you bad, you're also scum. Tough titties. | ||
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On September 22 2013 02:20 DarthPunk wrote: ##Vote: Geript Die. There's no way you lynch me. And then you die night 1 when I shoot you in the face. Enjoy bish. | ||
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On September 22 2013 02:35 DarthPunk wrote: No. But When you popped in the thread with a one liner asking to lynch an active kush you should reasonably expect people to take issue with it. I think your case is OK. I'm not sure how much scum hunting kush does in the first half of day one usually though or what threshold kush's non-scum hunting becomes flying under the radar intentionally. So while you're case is good and the thought process is solid I'm not sure if kush is scum or just Kush and therefore I probably don't want to lynch him yet. Blah blah. I still refuse to take an actual stance. Blah blah | ||
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On September 22 2013 02:39 DarthPunk wrote: Don't talk to me please. I don't want to hear it and I don't want to be baited into more shit flinging with you. Which is clearly your intention. So calling you out for not taking anything but the safest easiest stance and not taking any other stance on anything period is baiting you? RTFT. You just don't want to be called to the table for your shit. | ||
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On September 22 2013 03:15 yamato77 wrote: You could give an updated read on WoS, and perhaps reads on other players in the game. You know, like I asked you to do. There hasn't been a reason to upgrade or downgrade him from suspicious. He didn't engage me at all despite the fight with DP. Plus he bypassed the whole fight entirely. And he didn't give a reason for not engaging the common topic. | ||
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On September 22 2013 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote: The stuff about geript. Feels townie to me. Nah he's townie because of MocLogic from post 2. | ||
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On September 22 2013 17:54 FirmTofu wrote: I understand that meta cases aren't always the best. That's why I haven't made a case on DP and pushed him like an inbred retard (see:geript). I am simply posting my thoughts, nothing more, nothing less. At least there's a clear causative agent in my retardation. Unfortunately for us, you stupidity is by choice. | ||
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People I think are town for various reasons: Koshi Mocsta Yamato Marv Rayn People I'm happy to see lynched DarthPunk--Obv scum Tofu--hella weird game, I'm leaning towards scum over super butthurt Vayne--GTFO 2 posts not even attempting to play the game. If I were a host I'd modkill him and ask for a ban for not even trying to play WoS--I don't see him really taking any sort of responsibility in this game and that's something I associate with his town play and something I caught onto in his last game (3P) I'd be happy with a lynch there. Plus, he hasn't been bitching about the complete lurkage or really trying to push me either direction. Would shoot after DP. Complete Lurker List Xzavier Cephiro Zenatsu gumshoe Onegu I'm betting that there's 2-3 scum in this list so the "safe lynch" would be among these guys as I'm mostly ok with everyone's posting. People I want to see more out of: Pandain--Just crazy shit left and right; feels like he's disinterested which makes far more sense from a scum perspective right now Chairman--All I see is a mental struggle in what/how to post but that's something I expect. Need more thought process. | ||
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On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote: I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100? Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:16 marvellosity wrote: geript, can you explain your Mocsta read please? He's using Moc logic which is something he only does as town. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote: I won't condescend if you don't assume I'm being an ass when I'm not known for being dumb like that Yes, I mean it's literally the only time ever. Lone has played two towngames, of which Umasi was in one, and that quote (and the nested one inside it) were the only times he mentioned Umasi. And the mentions were "i kinda think maybe he's scum or maybe this other player, i guess umasi is mafia". Do you understand now why I have my eyebrows massively raised at his contention that he's massively biased against Umasi? FWIW I either coached or hosted or something one of those games as I remember and IIRC there was a big thing afterwards about Lone always and forever from then on thinking Umasi is scum. I could be wrong though and be attributing that somewhere else though. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote: No, he's basing this on our VOICE MAFIA games, in which it was explained to him that I give zero fucks as any alignment. I have stated that I don't find a great deal of correlation between VOICE MAFIA play and forum mafia play though aside from certain cases though (kush), but I don't think Mattchew knows my stance on that. I do remember reading this and thinking, 'Wait, is he really reading me based on the two VM games we played together?' I tend to give more fucks in forum mafia though the more I play, the fewer fucks I give. Not in my opinion. How I see it is like me you care but don't want to. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:22 yamato77 wrote: geript, MocLogic is not a good enough explanation. Yes it is. Moc uses specific sets of heuristics as town and completely different sets of heuristics as scum always and forever. Moc is fine. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:23 marvellosity wrote: Could you do me a favour and try to have a quick look? I can't imagine where it would be and it would be super helpful. Here and Here. Maybe not as pronounced as I remember but I can at least understand basic illogical bias against Umasi based on history as I would basic bias against me since I seem to roll scum a bunch. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:24 WaveofShadow wrote: Can you rewrite that so it's understandable by someone who isn't living in your head? It's pretty simple. I don't care about the games I play in, I just don't want to have to care about the games I play in. I think you're the same way. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote: Why is DP obvscum, G-ript? And since DP refused to do it, do you mind looking at my analysis of FT's first post and telling me what you think? I've already explained that. I don't understand how anyone reads him as trying to move the game forward and there's lots of shit that he's been doing nothing with. All of the "town reads" on him make 0 sense to me whatsoever. Really though it's not a big issue because he's dead come D2 period. As for FT post, I didn't hate it. But I think FT is an awful player because he doesn't reassess any situation in the dynamics of how the game is playing out. For example when he refused to admit that fakeclaiming Det. was bad because it flat out allowed Onegu or Koshi or whoever to not be suspected as scum Vig. You need to reassess situations as it's moving forward and information comes out. The other problem with FT is that I think he's so awful that he can never ever de-tunnel under any situation. As for the caring thing. I'm a player who cares about winning and taking responsibility and shit; but I don't want to be a player to who cares / gives a fuck about the game. I want this to be fun and relaxing and most of the time it's neither. I think you're the same way. | ||
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On September 23 2013 09:00 WaveofShadow wrote: You think FT is awful but you think DP is scum, so is he right? And what about what Marv just said? (and in regards to the 'gives-a-fuck'-ness, again, depends on the game. If you're basing it on Bluelightz then yeah, that game was shit, we both cared, didn't want to and it didn't matter. I would say for the most part though I do care about the outcome of a game and do try---I'm not sure where you get the fact that I don't. This isn't exactly topic/game-relevant in my opinion though so mabes we talk in postgame.) No I don't think his post was right per se. He was all wrong about my previous meta. I don't think he's even right about DP's general meta. But I also don't think that FT has enough to balance his ego and actually think about what he's saying (pot... kettle... blah blah). That said, I don't think FT really took an actual stance on DP in the early post or even any reasonable logical stance on DP after that. But I think FT is an awful player who has no real desire to get better so take that how you will. | ||
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On September 23 2013 09:13 marvellosity wrote: I'm nowhere near done reading, but I still think LM is a decent lynch; I know people are reading his martyring as a towntell, but usually when townies martyr they stick around to vent their martyryness (aw yea) on people, whereas LM just peaced out. Say you're a newbie townie who feels out of his depth a little in a large game full of regulars and loud posters - fine, maybe it's a little scary, but is it really as desperate as LM is coming across? Is the situation that bad? ugh I'm very much with you on this point. I've been thinking about that some myself. | ||
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On September 23 2013 09:15 marvellosity wrote: geript, there's no need to be that harsh. Srsly man. Call me biased, but I'm not going to go all soft and nice on someone who called me an inbred retard. | ||
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On September 23 2013 09:26 marvellosity wrote: Sidenote: I am troubled by VE's absence I already told you that his push against me was exactly the same as in the last game where he was 3P... But apparently I'm a bad player so... | ||
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On September 23 2013 09:29 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm catching up - I'm watching WWZ with the wife. Mandatory "Sick delurk bro" @Marv I disagree. Palmar knows that VE gets lazy as scum generally and I've hated all of VE's pushes as complete bullshit. Plus, he loves to 'setup' people for the flip as scum. He tried it on me in PYP; he did it in GMarshal's game (the podcast on) on I forget who; he did it here. Plus, the whole DP/VE thing early on seemed weird to me. | ||
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On September 23 2013 09:39 marvellosity wrote: It really doesn't feel like Ray has done this at all (I mean obviously he hasn't with his vote) - he hasn't tried to gain information from people either. Town will usually at least try to follow through with their plan. Look at this post: I disagree with this point. Town generally forgets their plan or moves on in my experience. It's scum who's concerned with consistency and stuff as such. | ||
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On September 23 2013 11:45 yamato77 wrote: geript might also be mafia No even close yam... | ||
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On September 23 2013 11:55 Mocsta wrote: Yeah, I hear grease/oil slushing around... guess its cos your so scummy. You're so cute sometimes when you think you've caught someone. <3 | ||
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On September 23 2013 11:56 FirmTofu wrote: I'm back at the worst possible time. ugh. Sorry, I had an extremely busy day today. Any questions for me? Not bothering to read at all? | ||
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On September 23 2013 11:59 FirmTofu wrote: Wait what is going on, I thought the deadline is in 2 minutes? So that's a no ok. Peace. | ||
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On September 23 2013 12:11 FirmTofu wrote: Can you please link me to the post where geript claims vig? Thanks. So you gave me a town read and didn't see any ANY??? Of the times I told DP he was getting Shot? | ||
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On September 23 2013 13:44 Blazinghand wrote: wow we lynched the parity cop D1. this town would be so lost if I hadn't replaced in Awe. Early test prevents me from spamming it up, but my bullet shall ring true. I shall remove Scum BH from the second game in a row :-P Jk. Still shooting DP. Night | ||
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Tofu. I want an explanation of how you gave me a townread but completely missed all my vig claims. | ||
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On September 23 2013 20:02 FirmTofu wrote: I skipped the majority of your posts because I assumed you were having a shitfest with someone or the other and I wanted to finish catching up as fast as possible. It's a harsh reality, I know. So you just chose to give me a townread after skipping most of my posts? Where's the sense in that? | ||
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On September 23 2013 21:34 marvellosity wrote: geript really really does need to explain his vote though. I already did. It seemed really weird that Ray knew who the counter option was and changed my mind. Plus, I recognize that I'm biased against tofu. | ||
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As for why re:CR vote: I'm always trying to be hyper aware of which scum are "at risk" and who the counter wagons are. I remembered CR being a recent show prior to lynch; but that awareness of as I saw it a late counter wagon read scummy to me. | ||
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On September 23 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote: you've still not explained WHY it read as scummy geript. Yes I have or at least as best as I am able. If you don't like it daddy then you should have better kids. | ||
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On September 24 2013 01:06 Mocsta wrote: Man, this game is seriously fucked up. Two situations.. Scum is heavily bussing D1... or.. my reads are completely wrong. Yeah, all the smartarses will come out and say my reads are wrong.. watevz idk you think I'm scum? In that case then they're all wrong. | ||
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On September 24 2013 01:15 marvellosity wrote: geript, I'm curious you haven't commented on DP's whole ragequit thingy. I'm trying not to comment on it honestly. The last rage quit burned me pretty hard. | ||
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On September 24 2013 01:26 Mocsta wrote: Geript, mav/me still waiting. I really wonder where the Geript I nk'd night1 in his first TL game disappeared to. I miss that guy R.I.P I'm as good as how much time I put in. Just is what it is. IDK like I really don't feel great about my reads as I was pre-aperature. That said, everyone else who played and voted for me in aperature and was town were idiotic. I'm just not feeling this game and I think a large majority of scum are inactive. | ||
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On September 24 2013 01:33 Mocsta wrote: is there a clear tally? im not 100% sure what time deadline mz used. It's ok... no one else is sure what any of the deadlines are either. | ||
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On September 24 2013 11:01 VayneAuthority wrote: Keep in mind that this game was open for decades and when I joined it wasn't even close to full, hindsight is 20/20 lol. You aren't missing much, my town game is horrid I'm glad you recognize how awful your play always is and will be. | ||
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On September 24 2013 11:16 VayneAuthority wrote: gg peace Yup.... You're so right. You're always soo right. LOL. I'm going to be pushing for a permanent ban for you for this post alone. Dead bitches don't speak and you're both | ||
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On September 25 2013 01:12 geript wrote: There's only one point I want to make before I go into work. The BH kill really bothers me. It reminds me of the kill we made in The Game on a replacement who was a good player (I forget who it was) specifically to keep the thread off track. Feels like the same situation. Did everyone miss this? | ||
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Here's the problem that I'm seeing: town got into a shitty place on D1 which is amazing for scum (yes part of that is my fault) and the best priority for scum in this type of situation is to do their best to keep it that way. So the highest priority for scum is not to remove blues but rather to remove people who can bring the thread on track. WoS is ignored half the time despite being a decent player. Yam can bring a thread on track but just as often derail a thread into "No You're scum" posting. Vayne (if he was a scum shot) is intentionally worthless until endgame. Rather my priority as scum would be to remove active quality players of which the available shots would be: VE, Marv, DP (prior to rage quit), Mocsta, Rayn and a few others. So what's the point in shooting WoS or Yam/Vayne over any of those five. I'm honestly not seeing it. There's a shit ton of scum (6); there's an amazing KP rate (1/2 round up), town seems to be mostly inactive. Where's any sort of benefit of not trying to remove the "get on track" type people to keep the thread in a clusterfucked situation? I've only seen odd kills like this in two drastically different situations: mostly inactive scum where NKs going through is far more important than anything else and mostly active experienced scum where they need a bit of time to hide before it becomes obvious. I'm not sure that Mattchew is right about Marv, but I really think that we should be taking hard looks at Marv/VE/etc. again because I'd bet that a number of the "pro scummers" are scum. | ||
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On September 25 2013 15:40 Mocsta wrote:Did is so full of dumb. No it's not. NK analysis isn't something that happens much around here, but it's the strongest tell out there right now. Did you know your push on Marv, aligns with the timing of MattChew push on Marv? Did you know as scum in personality2, we left marv alive intentionally? Did you know in desert, marv & hapa was left alive until hapa claimed doc? 1.Yah I saw his post. I didn't think much of the Mattchew stuff because I haven't opened Marv's filter (or anyone elses) yet today. 2. It's not a matter of leaving Marv alive. It's a matter of leaving VE/Marv/Rayn/You alive over WoS. It's not like scum can expect by leaving the 'pros' alive it makes it any more likely that they won't get doc'd because we likely have at least 2 docs (I'm personally betting 3 docs 3 vig's minimum) 3. Don't know, don't care. Wtf? WoS was a solid NK, as he was a low possibilty medic rank (and also had a scum read on you at the end of his filter) Sure he's a solid NK but not a solid NK on N1. There's better value around so why take 3 Tier 2 shots at best. Why are you refusing to provide comment/analysis on the mattchew situation You clearly know whats going on, as you commented on mattchew chasing marv... Because I skimmed it and haven't read Marv's filter or any of VE/Rayn/You since D1. I see very little point but there are lots of little things that have been nagging at me all game and if I had a gun right now I'd shoot VE in the face then if he flips scum I'd shoot Marv. | ||
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On September 25 2013 15:51 Mattchew wrote: I cant picture a world of ve and marv on the same scumteam based on their interactions.... But if im wrong that would be so wild Actually there was an early set of interactions at they had that came off as very weird to me. I know that they've hydra'd a bunch and stuff, but I never really got the sense that they were jockeying with each other at all and that seemed very odd to me as in my experience usually the good players like to try and get a feel for the other good players. Sure maybe I'm just on a bad streak, but those NKs still really bother me and the fact that everyone's been happy to gloss over them without any thought is exceptionally disturbing. | ||
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On September 25 2013 15:54 Mocsta wrote: Good to know you wont bother looking at the leading lynch candidate in detail But if you change ya mind. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=143#2850 Look Moc I like you. I will even remind you that I was scum on Mattchew before I think anyone else. Maybe I just remember the thoughts I've had in my head and didn't post them in the thread. But you're not going to be able to bully me this game and the fact that you're pushing this hard in such an odd manner reminds me much more of your play in goldrush or whatever it was. | ||
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On September 25 2013 16:38 Mocsta wrote: Thnx for the list. I agree with a couple on ya tier1 Can u give some comment to what transpired with mattychew defense. Moc. 1 question for you. Are you town? | ||
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On September 25 2013 17:25 FirmTofu wrote: Well, he didn't diffuse the case at all. That's another thing I have a problem with. He just decided to say, "I don't ened to defend myself, I'll just post other bullshit to look town," Again, bad play from either alignment and therefore not really alignment indicative. Everything Mattchew posted about about marv was terrible. All wrong and twisted. Pray tell how it was twisted and wrong. All I see is you trying to wriggle out of the noose. | ||
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On September 26 2013 07:06 justanothertownie wrote: What about the current candidates besides you? You know, I haven't really coalesced my feeling about this statement and it's been thrown around a fuck ton this game; but I don't think I've really seen it before to the same extent. It's just an idiotic statement as town "Uh who of the guys who are currently up for lynch are likely scum?" It assumes that only the current candidates are scum. Either I'm having an awful game or I'm right on track. I'm voting marv and saying fuck it for the night. | ||
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On September 26 2013 11:01 iamperfection wrote: someone vig geript tonight by the way This | ||
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On September 26 2013 11:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Second day in a row geript shows up last minute to sheep wat And. That makes me scum? No. You're scum. | ||
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That's the setup. I'd put money on it. Cops should fully ignore any checks they get. | ||
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On September 26 2013 11:18 Coagulation wrote: sad thing is Moc is prolly town and his fakeclaim bullshit will end up getting 2 townies lynched. You're scum too. | ||
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Koshi is in my lynch pile. I'm hoping someone shoots S&B (DP) or that he gets modkilled. I'd like to flip Mattchew too after thinking about it. For everyone bitching about how I can play better than this, Yes you're right. But I have ~2 hours to devote to reading per day an that can't keep up with a 200+ page thread. For me to be good, I need to be able to read the thread 5-6 times and then filter dive on top of that. Get over it. I'm doing the best I can for right now. | ||
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On September 27 2013 06:34 Koshi wrote: geript. Why do you think you might get lynched? Calling me lynchbait this game would be slanderous to lynchbaiters around the world. | ||
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On September 27 2013 06:41 Mattchew wrote: Geript why me? Gut read. | ||
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I don't know how I feel about you. Like you're obviously not the town VE I know and love, but this game is a series of clusterfuckedness that I have no clue how I'd expect you to be responding. I don't see you following you normal thought progressions which bothers me but you also didn't in the Other game we both hydra'd. The really odd set of vote switches that iirc you were a part of first onto FT early, then you and Rayn iirc midday to someone else the again later bug the fuck out of me but I haven't looked back at them yet. | ||
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On September 27 2013 06:46 marvellosity wrote: Anyone who thinks marv could be mafia at this stage has a decent chance of being mafia just downgraded matt in my spreadsheet to null purely based on that D: This is a pretty stupid heuristic. I'm stealing it. Anyone who thinks I'm scum are now scum in my eyes. | ||
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Really and truly, I miss the days when you were all hearts and unicorns towards me. | ||
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On September 27 2013 06:50 marvellosity wrote: in my last towngame, it caught 3/3 mafia It probably be more accurate for me if I used the "people who think I'm town are scum" derivative. | ||
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On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote: Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order 1) cephiro 2) mocsta 3) firmtofu And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap. Wtf. You think Marv is scum and tell us to lynch his scum read? Lynch this motherfucker. | ||
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On September 27 2013 10:42 Risen wrote: Should be clear but if I die and marv doesn't then lynch in this order 1) cephiro 2) mocsta 3) firmtofu And somewhere find a way to kill marv. Scum can't allow someone that active to be kept alive. He has to much pull in the thread. Mocsta and ft can be switched. Ft can be lynched before ceph, even. Just kill those three asap. Read this again folks. Risen is scum. | ||
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On September 27 2013 11:12 Mocsta wrote: I get that... But Do u think scum that is killing marv.. would then do what risen did?.. I.e. advocate to kill marv? I don't think so. It's pointless. That's an awful heuristic. Scum talk about who the kill all the time. That isn't the point of it. Risen wrote: 1. Marv is scum 2. If I get shot and Marv doesn't, lynch Marv's guaranteed scum lynch first Tell me that is any sort of town thought process. He doesn't want to push the Marv point too hard but he also doesn't want to get away from the bus/mislynch/whatever Ceph flips. | ||
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On September 27 2013 11:29 Risen wrote: I didn't think marv was scum. If you read the second half of my post it clearly said scum can't let marv live with the way he was directing town. Even if he was wrong it goes against scum trying to control the lynch. As you can see, he died. TL;DR: Geript learn to read, ##vote: Cephiro How is "And somewhere find a way to kill Marv" supposed to be read as? | ||
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On September 27 2013 11:35 Risen wrote: You should probably read the line directly after it. No one is this bad, this isn't OMGUS I'm throwing out, here. Geript is scum who got caught trying to change the lynch and now he's scrambling. Nope you slipped your thought process. If you thought Marv was town, then you wouldn't want him dead ever. Period. Especially as he was the best active player around and a leader. I'm not scrambling here; you are. You aren't even trying to address the points. You did OMGUS and took it too "too stupid to be town." You're not even trying to make a credible argument. You slipped. I know it. You know it. The thread should know it. Your mom knows it; btw she told me to tell you that she says hi. | ||
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On September 27 2013 11:52 Risen wrote: Is this really how Geript plays? If you're town dude... yeesh, no wonder TL towns are so bad. People like you. If you're scum like I think you are, step it up. You're still bad. Plus, if you think that Marv was on track, why not just find more stuff to further convince people on Ceph? Your post was a 'mandatory' need to make a post post. None of it makes any sense. You're just hopping on Marv's dick to look active and shit. Hell, you don't even care about the Ceph lynch, if you did, you'd be engaging on reasons for why to lynch him and then Moc and then FT. You don't have any interest in pushing a lynch, just +1 and prodding them along while they get moving. On top of that, how do you know that this town is that bad? You scum? Really though, let's assume for a second that you are town. Why didn't you include yourself in the problem too? It's not like you've done shit to get the thread on track. I bet your voting history is pretty sweet too. Plus, iirc Marv was scum on you too and wanted you dead. You don't seem to be hopping all over his dick on that one. What gives ? | ||
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On September 27 2013 12:15 Risen wrote: And I like how Geript ignored the possibility of marv bussing his team after realizing how screwed they are. So now you're trying to suggest that you thought Marv was bussing a teammate? I'll be straight up before you slipped I didn't have a single solid scum read. Also, now who's trying to... I believe the phrase you used was "nitpick?" You're not even actually trying to push a reason for why I'm scum. Just "I no scum. U scum. Ppl see how he scummy right?" Answer my questions or I will bully this whole thread to vote you unanimously. | ||
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On September 27 2013 12:18 Risen wrote: Why are mocsta and geript the only ones posting in the thread? What is this, a game run by scum? (Pro-tip: that would be why they killed marv, and why I called them killing marv if he was town) If you're town, why can't you grow a pair and find reasons for us being scum? Hell, I even made it easy by practically playing to my perceived scum meta. If you're town, why can't you give a straight answer about your thought process so other townies can see it? | ||
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On September 27 2013 12:40 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm taking Mocsta down. FUCK YEAH!!! What do you think of Risen and why? | ||
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On September 27 2013 13:11 VisceraEyes wrote: Mocsta is the enemy of order. He seeks your confusion and doubt. He breathes your fear and loathing. He must be stopped, or we will surely all perish. Shut up scum. You're next after we lynch Risen. | ||
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On September 27 2013 13:25 FirmTofu wrote: Has anyone here played games with Coagulation? I have no idea how to read him. Help a brotha out? STAHP!!!!!! Risen is scum. Read from end of night up to now. | ||
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On September 28 2013 01:17 Risen wrote: Yes. I always talk to my scum reads, I just flipped my shit b/c Geript. No you flipped your shit because you got caught. Want to explain your reasoning before I get back from work and move the vote onto you? | ||
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On September 28 2013 02:58 Risen wrote: OO you don't want me to hold you, the proxy rage will just blow you up and you'll get banned. I'm seriously happy iamp stopped me. You're here answer my questions. You came back with this: On September 28 2013 01:46 Risen wrote: Zaragon the sad thing is that I actually have a very strong null read on Mocsta, but he has to be lynched. Not while we have so many clearly scummy people (Cephiro, Mr. CC, FT, Geript) but certainly once those four are taken care of. This has to be done because we can't allow scum in the future to think they can fake claim and get away with it. Fake claiming doctor and getting a doctor claim lynch is the bottom of the barrel in terms of play. It's so unaligned with town regardless of anything that it has to be punished. When making plays like that you're pretty much fulfilling the traitor roll. I'm a huge fan of big plays, I love them, but only when I'm scum. Scum are the only ones who can afford to make big plays because the potential payout is so huge and scum has access to nearly all information. Acting on such limited information means town should not ever make big plays like that. Why does he have to be lynched? Why are you sad about it? Why do you care more about "punishing play" right now than actually you know winning the game and convincing people that you want to lynch scum and that the person who you're pushing is scum. WHY THE FUCK IS NOBODY AT ALL EXCEPT FOR ME TALKING ABOUT HOW FUCKING SCUMMY RISEN IS???????????? | ||
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On September 28 2013 07:25 kitaman27 wrote: What have I gotten myself into -_- Probably will take me a couple days to catch up fully. Somebody give me major points of interest if you don't mind. Also, do we have a full day or a few hours left in the cycle? Risen, VE and mattchew are scum. Mocsta is town despite a bonehead play to lynch a claimed doc with confirmed heal over Ceph. Ceph is a scummy coin flip despit Marv 's 100% scum promise. VE is scum. Risen is Scum. Mattchew is scum. Coag is confirmed town. That's about it. | ||
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On September 29 2013 15:06 Risen wrote: And what could possibly be more scummy than fakeclaiming doctor to kill a claimed doctor? "Scum wouldn't do something like that because they know they'd get lynched!" Really? Because it looks like Mocsta isn't getting lynched right now... so viable scum play? Fake claiming doctor was scummy as shit, Mocsta needs to die. BEFORE Mocsta, though, I think the people who tried to start movements away from Cephiro need to be examined. From a town perspective, there was going to be no other lynch. Proposing another lynch had only the potential to confuse people and allow for scum shenans (at that point they still have 6 people and once momentum starts elsewhere some idiot townie is bound to follow). The people that immediately jump to mind are Geript and VE. Not that anyone will listen to me, but risen has been pandering to the flavor of the day forever. Just shoot him and be done with it already. | ||
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On September 30 2013 07:28 Risen wrote: I normally wouldn't respond to you, but this post just strengthens my points so I'm going to quote it. In spite of trying to pressure me, he continues to not read my posts fully. I very clearly outlined why both of you are scum. Mocsta: Most scum aligned play I've ever seen saving another scum player. Geript: Attempted to move the wagon away from Ceph, who we now know is scum. Continues to not read the posts of the person he harps on. So me attempting to move the wagon means that I'm specifically scum. Now you're bullshitting entirely because VE attempted to do the same exact thing but you're not 100% scum on him for that reason. You're scum and need to be shot and if a vig doesn't shoot you this game and instead listens to you and shoots me then I will rage so hard at that stupid motherfucker in postgame and obs thread that they'll wish their unborn child had died instead. | ||
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On September 30 2013 04:54 Risen wrote: Geript next because he's been harping on me STILL. He tried swaying the lynch away from Ceph at a time when that was possible with bad town play. I'm serious, his defense is probably either "Oh Risen top scum read so of course town me presses on him". No. Other defense possible would be "Oh I knew no one would swap but I wanted to pressure him". Still no. Lastly VE, who tried swapping to someone I can't remember at this point. I told him it was not town, and he continued. To me that reads as someone who figures if they stop it will be considered wishy washy and scummy. A town player wouldn't worry about that and would just keep the pressure up. Scum player would worry and keep the crazy on b/c he would try to appear consistent. This is reaching, though. After those other two are gone there will be like 6 more days of filter to look at for him, so no hurry. On September 30 2013 07:28 Risen wrote: I normally wouldn't respond to you, but this post just strengthens my points so I'm going to quote it. In spite of trying to pressure me, he continues to not read my posts fully. I very clearly outlined why both of you are scum. Mocsta: Most scum aligned play I've ever seen saving another scum player. Geript: Attempted to move the wagon away from Ceph, who we now know is scum. Continues to not read the posts of the person he harps on. On top of all of the other bullshit he's spewing, he's not even reading his own posts. He's posting with 0 thought en total. He's not trying to figure out why Moc or I are scum. He's just trying to paint us red. He says one thing is towny, then in the next post he calls it scummy. RISEN IS NOT CONCERNED WITH GETTING A SCUM LYNCH AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RISEN IS FUCKING SCUM BECAUSE HE'S CONCERNED WITH GETTING ANY AVAILABLE LYNCH FOR WHATEVER BULLSHIT REASON HE WANTS AT THE TIME!!!!! HE DOESN'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT WHO OR WHAT OR WHY OR WHEN. | ||
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On September 24 2013 08:17 Risen wrote: Wat... Worst justification for not voting FT ever. First off, Risen calls out Ceph for bad reasoning which is EASY TO DO as scum on scum. The important difference is how he follows up. He's not interested in pressuring him. He's not interested in trying to throw the "public town eye" further towards him. He doesn't do shit about it. On September 24 2013 12:20 Risen wrote: FT/Cephiro the lynch targets here. I'll vote Cephiro. Don't trust the #stagedhype surrounding FT lynch. On September 24 2013 12:21 Risen wrote: EBWOP: Nope, never mind. No way a town FT comes out with a vote on VE. Instavote and insta switch. Again SUPER EASY justification to switch his vote off of scum. As town, I don't give a fuck who I vote for; I'll throw my weight around as I want and pressure like a hammer in thread or in vote. Nor do I generally care who the fuck votes for who because it doesn't help me. But one thing I know is that throwing out an odd vote is odd and it's fine to pressure for that but justifying voting for someone who you "don't believe the hype" on and then instaswitch on them just for a weird vote is ridiculously odd and scummy. On September 24 2013 12:25 Risen wrote: No you aren't. Unless a doctor claims the save you could easily just be saying you got protected and you're scum. Doctor don't claim, though... that would be stupid. Next Risen tries to discredit Yam despite the fact that the only way Yam is scum pulling this off is if Coag is also scum. 2 people pulling that type of play as scum is gutsy and stupid and puts you at risk for very little reason. He's not furthering the discussion or pushing a point other than throwing dirt. SCUM SCUM SCUM On September 25 2013 02:41 Risen wrote: That hasn't been confirmed. How do you know there's a framer/GF in this game? Nitpick here, but it seems pretty scummy to me. It isn't a full blown scumslip, but it's something a townie should realize before posting whereas someone with the knowledge that both roles are actively in the game might screw up. A town VA is someone I'd kill if I was scum. Dude pretty much had lynch armor because of my actions toward him. Though keeping him alive would have made a mislynch onto me much easier so maybe he wasn't a very good kill. My scum reads are Cephiro, FT, Mocsta, Sentinel First three have been explained, Sentinel because of what OO just pointed out. I'm down for lynching anyone here, but would definitely prefer Cephiro or FT. Probably FT at this point. Mocsta and Sent scum reads come out of nowhere. The Mocsta read is complete bullshit as anyone who's read the OP would fully expect Framers/GF/whatever. Hell, we didn't even fucking know that Vanilla Scum could exist. More importantly, this was at the time when many people were leaning towards on Sent. No anaylsis of him just a generic +1 of a lynch. Bottom line: FT, Moc and Sent are town because Risen is scum and scum never put more than 1 other scum in their list. On September 25 2013 02:46 Risen wrote: Because doctors have never tried to hide over being 100% transparent town. Cmon marv... This isn't even a defense of Matt, it's just me pointing out a flaw for your vote/unvote/vote. Why is Matt scum, again? I see no compelling reason to lynch Matt over FT. Marv should know this, especially since he's such a town leader at the moment and of the votes on Matt his is the only one that actually matters. Why is this phrase necessary? If it's bullshit reasoning Marv should be called on the table for his read and vote/unvote/vote. This phrase is just him trying to not draw attention to himself. "Uhh i'm not calling you scum, I just want to get this clarified without really getting in the discussion." On September 25 2013 04:50 Risen wrote: What a scummy defense making it try to look like the problem with Cephiro is apathy over the glaring faults in his posting. So LeonMeow is scummier for voting for your scum read because of the specific reasons that he gives? Apathy can be a VERY VALID reason for being scum. Yet again, this is just shit flinging on another lynchable player. On September 25 2013 12:40 Risen wrote: FT saved yesterday, not getting lynched today. Makes sense. DP was right about mods saving FT b/c he's scum, imo. More bullshit "reasons" for FT to be scum. On September 25 2013 14:24 Risen wrote: I think he's been told by his scum buddies to keep quiet and not to mess things up for himself and more than he already has. On September 25 2013 15:32 Risen wrote: Really hope Matt is scum or I'm going to be in a tight spot. In other news, lynch FT. I could see a marv lynch, too. Or Cephiro who is still absent. Mocsta with the ole' "lol your post is too long and I'm scum so that's too much effort to respond to/opens me up too much to appearing scummy so I'm not changing my mind" post. About an hour apart from each other. FT is scum because he's quiet and absent but Cephiro isnt. He's just trying to push the FT lynch over Ceph without giving himself a backdoor into the Ceph lynch if it becomes favorable. On September 26 2013 02:21 Risen wrote: I'm not moving my vote until it becomes clear Cephiro is going to be lynched over FT, who still, in spite of no redeeming qualities in his posting today, is not the leading lynch candidate. Team plz Still pushing FT over Ceph. | ||
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On September 30 2013 09:11 Koshi wrote: Ok so before I sleep. Kitaman confirmed town for anybody with a brain. Tomorrow I ll find our lynch. Mocsta/rayn/VE/Risen all energy on those 4 people. FT feels like crapshoot atm.... but he can be 5 target. Just use all available time on those. I'll look into all. But I know I prefer Mocsta for tomorrow. I DEMAND THAT YOU TELL USE WHY KITA IS CONFIRMED TOWN AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WHY YOU PREFER MOCSTA OVER RISEN | ||
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On September 30 2013 10:19 Mocsta wrote: he's town cos he still has a presence. basically scumhave no reason to post unless pressured. which is how most town are acting currently. therefore, koshis attempt to keep campaigning actively for a lynch, is townie by virtue. I wish he posted actual logic, buy its still more effort than 90% of the thread. Read my big ass post and tell me what you think of Risen and why I'm right. | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:27 Risen wrote: Yeah I have no idea why Umasi/Matt would be shot outside bluehunting. Horrible shots regardless. Anyways, anyone other than Mocsta want to give a concise reasoning as to why Mocsta shouldn't be the lynch today? Geript feel free to chime in on me being more scummy than Mocsta, it makes no sense and makes lynch #2 that much easier. Care to explain exactly why you think Mocsta is scum? You know like make a case and shit? | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:33 Risen wrote: So VE is the patsy. Ballsy, but understandable. It's the person I'd push as scum to save Mocsta. So why have you been "pushing off" lynching VE for a while then if you think he's the patsy? | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: What if they're both scum? I've had a townread on Mocsta since like forever. I'd much rather lynch Risen than anyone else in the thread. | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Lynch VE instead of Risen plx. I had a townread on him forever as well which is why I don't particularly favor lynching him right now. Just realized looking votecounts that Risen has throw away his vote on both d1/d2 lynches. Scum generally spread the vote out and "throwing away" the vote on D1 when no one knew when the fucking deadline was could easily mean that he just never drew it elsewhere. Also... Didn't Risen end up on neither Ceph or LeonMeow on D2 and he actively pushed "Not Ceph" D2 while having the mysterious scum read on him. Isn't that suspicious to you at all? | ||
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On September 24 2013 08:17 Risen wrote: Wat... Worst justification for not voting FT ever. First off, Risen calls out Ceph for bad reasoning which is EASY TO DO as scum on scum. The important difference is how he follows up. He's not interested in pressuring him. He's not interested in trying to throw the "public town eye" further towards him. He doesn't do shit about it. On September 24 2013 12:20 Risen wrote: FT/Cephiro the lynch targets here. I'll vote Cephiro. Don't trust the #stagedhype surrounding FT lynch. On September 24 2013 12:21 Risen wrote: EBWOP: Nope, never mind. No way a town FT comes out with a vote on VE. Instavote and insta switch. Again SUPER EASY justification to switch his vote off of scum. As town, I don't give a fuck who I vote for; I'll throw my weight around as I want and pressure like a hammer in thread or in vote. Nor do I generally care who the fuck votes for who because it doesn't help me. But one thing I know is that throwing out an odd vote is odd and it's fine to pressure for that but justifying voting for someone who you "don't believe the hype" on and then instaswitch on them just for a weird vote is ridiculously odd and scummy. On September 24 2013 12:25 Risen wrote: No you aren't. Unless a doctor claims the save you could easily just be saying you got protected and you're scum. Doctor don't claim, though... that would be stupid. Next Risen tries to discredit Yam despite the fact that the only way Yam is scum pulling this off is if Coag is also scum. 2 people pulling that type of play as scum is gutsy and stupid and puts you at risk for very little reason. He's not furthering the discussion or pushing a point other than throwing dirt. SCUM SCUM SCUM On September 25 2013 02:41 Risen wrote: That hasn't been confirmed. How do you know there's a framer/GF in this game? Nitpick here, but it seems pretty scummy to me. It isn't a full blown scumslip, but it's something a townie should realize before posting whereas someone with the knowledge that both roles are actively in the game might screw up. A town VA is someone I'd kill if I was scum. Dude pretty much had lynch armor because of my actions toward him. Though keeping him alive would have made a mislynch onto me much easier so maybe he wasn't a very good kill. My scum reads are Cephiro, FT, Mocsta, Sentinel First three have been explained, Sentinel because of what OO just pointed out. I'm down for lynching anyone here, but would definitely prefer Cephiro or FT. Probably FT at this point. Mocsta and Sent scum reads come out of nowhere. The Mocsta read is complete bullshit as anyone who's read the OP would fully expect Framers/GF/whatever. Hell, we didn't even fucking know that Vanilla Scum could exist. More importantly, this was at the time when many people were leaning towards on Sent. No anaylsis of him just a generic +1 of a lynch. Bottom line: FT, Moc and Sent are town because Risen is scum and scum never put more than 1 other scum in their list. On September 25 2013 02:46 Risen wrote: Because doctors have never tried to hide over being 100% transparent town. Cmon marv... This isn't even a defense of Matt, it's just me pointing out a flaw for your vote/unvote/vote. Why is Matt scum, again? I see no compelling reason to lynch Matt over FT. Marv should know this, especially since he's such a town leader at the moment and of the votes on Matt his is the only one that actually matters. Why is this phrase necessary? If it's bullshit reasoning Marv should be called on the table for his read and vote/unvote/vote. This phrase is just him trying to not draw attention to himself. "Uhh i'm not calling you scum, I just want to get this clarified without really getting in the discussion." On September 25 2013 04:50 Risen wrote: What a scummy defense making it try to look like the problem with Cephiro is apathy over the glaring faults in his posting. So LeonMeow is scummier for voting for your scum read because of the specific reasons that he gives? Apathy can be a VERY VALID reason for being scum. Yet again, this is just shit flinging on another lynchable player. On September 25 2013 12:40 Risen wrote: FT saved yesterday, not getting lynched today. Makes sense. DP was right about mods saving FT b/c he's scum, imo. More bullshit "reasons" for FT to be scum. On September 25 2013 14:24 Risen wrote: I think he's been told by his scum buddies to keep quiet and not to mess things up for himself and more than he already has. On September 25 2013 15:32 Risen wrote: Really hope Matt is scum or I'm going to be in a tight spot. In other news, lynch FT. I could see a marv lynch, too. Or Cephiro who is still absent. Mocsta with the ole' "lol your post is too long and I'm scum so that's too much effort to respond to/opens me up too much to appearing scummy so I'm not changing my mind" post. About an hour apart from each other. FT is scum because he's quiet and absent but Cephiro isnt. He's just trying to push the FT lynch over Ceph without giving himself a backdoor into the Ceph lynch if it becomes favorable. On September 26 2013 02:21 Risen wrote: I'm not moving my vote until it becomes clear Cephiro is going to be lynched over FT, who still, in spite of no redeeming qualities in his posting today, is not the leading lynch candidate. Team plz Still pushing FT over Ceph. | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: We don't know if FT is scum or not. So pushing FT over Ceph isn't scummy. But the fact that he was pushing FT over Ceph while he had a mysterious scum read on Ceph isn't scummy to you? Does anyone even fucking read what I post? | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:50 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Show me where he pushed "Not Ceph". I see he wanted FT/Ceph lynched. Read his filter. I've quoted practically half of it it seems like. Yes he was "pushing" Ceph, but people bus. The primary goal of scum is to give themselves an out to bus WHILE PUSHING A DIFFERENT LYNCH!!!!! Multiple time's he's randomly promoted other people over Ceph for no good reason whatsoever while maintaining a mysterious never explained scum read on Ceph. | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: You can have a scumread on a guy but push your top scum read, it's not the end of the world. And nobody reads what you post because you are fucking anti-town the entire game and when you finally decide to start playing nobody wants to hear it anymore. Sorry. Fine then your loss for being anti-town for not listening at all. Lynch who you want. I'm fucking down. MZ/Sol please modkill me I'm done with this shit and am not going to post ever again in this thread | ||
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On September 30 2013 12:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This is blatantly against the rules. If you come back now I'm not gonna have a problem but if you actually bail then I WILL seek a ban for you after the game. First off, now you've modconfirmed I'm town and Risen is scum Second off, getting myself modkilled in no way helps town since there's no way I'd get lynched ever Third, go ahead and get me banned. I don't give a fuck about that. This game as been so awfully run that I wouldn't want to continue regardless Fourth, are you on fucking crack? | ||
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On October 05 2013 13:16 kitaman27 wrote: This was certainly the correct thing to do. Malongo had zero posts and he was a replacement of a player also with zero posts. kush was an active player who had to replace out for a legit reason. Mods don't modkill to maintain balance, they do so to enforce the rules. And the rules were no replacements after N2. | ||
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