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On September 12 2013 05:15 strongandbig wrote: also no goon game pretty sweet for mafia lol | ||
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On September 13 2013 11:00 justanothertownie wrote: But how long would we have to wait? And what about this? He can't play till the 30th. Clarity slacking. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + I voted "Next weekend" but I am being sneaky. Unless you open this spoiler. Then sneakyness is gone. | ||
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(you might get in trouble with the host of the newbie though) | ||
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evil evil Meapak_Ziphh | ||
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Now we need replacements for the inactives. | ||
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On September 17 2013 18:42 marvellosity wrote: That sounds like the worst thing ever. I'm ever so slowly moving into the less is more camp. I'll agree with you if I roll scum. | ||
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It was a joke | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:09 LoneMeow wrote: Has anyone ever been policy lynched for lurking or spamming on TL? spamming - not recently lurking - only town But I dnu about times before me. Many tiems were there before me. | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Quick! We need 300 pages by Sunday so even if MZ mod kills half the crowd there will be enough to hit 500 I think you misspelled tomorrow. | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not going to spam, i'll post less when there is a fuckton of players. Works far better for me. Mini's are an exception where i can actually analyze everyone for their behavior/interactions with me. Yeah I also never spam in big games. town/scum/sk. never a huge filter. | ||
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I am going to have to go to Germany for 2 days for work. I'll have to catch a plane on Monday and will be back Wednesday. I am still going to stay in this game and fucking hope the hotel has wifi and post from phone. Activity will be lowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww during these 2 days though. You superanalitical guys better enjoy those first days of peace and quiet. D: | ||
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On September 20 2013 19:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: If i am a dayvigi, i'll shoot Koshi right atthe game start. Just because he has waited too hard. Dayvig isn't a role you can fakeclaim this game rayn. Not that it will stop you. | ||
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When this game starts, it will be happening in my pants. | ||
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What comes after 2? | ||
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u so smart | ||
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On September 21 2013 07:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: betches I am here, I will be starting this game tonight at 9:00pm EST. Get ready to rumble ah cool 3 hours. | ||
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On September 21 2013 11:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: I DIDN'T Read! ##Vote: Koshi! I love you too bro. | ||
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On September 21 2013 11:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi are tou my town bro or scum bro? This is important! THSISI S O MIPORTANT! I am always your bro. | ||
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On September 21 2013 11:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes. This is an opening to a game. Nothing but townclaims. Everyone who has posted is in my CIRCLE OF TRUST. I am approximately 86% sure that everyone who has posted above me is town, INCLUDING anyone who's posted between the time of writing this and the time of posting it. So yous guys - you're gonna help me find scum amongst e'rybudy else. Are you ready? My superbrain says that you pre-wrote this text and waited till 7 people replied. 6/7 town = 86%, 1/7 is scum = 14%. Cookie 4 Koshi? | ||
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#KoshisavingTLmafia. | ||
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I got first post. I already won this game. | ||
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On September 21 2013 12:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Apparently Voice mafia isn't happening tonight so here I am! Except I have absolutely no desire to sift through this shitfest. Quick someone say something I care about! Voice mafia. | ||
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On September 21 2013 12:11 DarthPunk wrote: How is it idiotic? Two people going at each other usually leads to heaps of information by which you can make really solid reads. Don't see how it is idiotic. But I don't think it is necessary anymore regardless. You both seem pretty townie to me. Why? Gut? | ||
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My only reads so far are that everybody seems angry. | ||
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On September 21 2013 12:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay. I wanna try somehing this game. Let's scumhunt as a team ok? In case you are scum, you'll fuck up at some point, in case i am scum, i'll fuck up at some point. In case we are both town, HALLELUJAH! Why even add the option that you are scum? Strange, I dont remember you doing that. For realz I am in bed now. | ||
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Are there monsters under my bed? Otherwise no. | ||
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Reason: People that make special posts always end up being scum. Acrofoles: GoT Persona: Crazometer Aperture: Alakaslam (he was even more special than otherwise, with the evul bee posts) Golden Sun: BH | ||
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On September 21 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote: Right... So lets get you useful. Is Geript scum? I have 0 clues. The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended. But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me. | ||
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On September 21 2013 22:51 Mocsta wrote: yeah OK, more stuff that means nothing. That was a different game. You know; i have seen you replace in as town, and your game play was very different to what you are doing now. Day1 spaztic mode is over. So lets try again, one more time. - cos you didn't give a definitive answer on where you stand. Read on Geript. Then Read on WaveofShadow. :D I do not want to lynch geript. Reason: He is making cases + he is a friendly fellow. I could lynch WoS atm. He tried to fling shit at VE for not going to bed when he said he was going to bed. Unless he is VE his mother there is no reason to make that post. | ||
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On September 21 2013 23:01 Mocsta wrote: Case(s) ??? i thought he made one case based on DPs second post of the game? Why is making cases alignment indicative? Are you content with the cases? => Do you think DP is scum? So why is flinging shit at VE for not goign to bed, alignment indicative? Yes, I do not know if geript scum. So the only reason to lynch him would be to look at if he is useful or not. He makes cases so I do not want to lynch him. Same story for WoS but he turns to the go!go! lynch part. Dnu what is so hard to understand. | ||
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On September 21 2013 23:08 Mocsta wrote: Have you turned a new leaf or something? Since when do you care as town? He did the same think in last game. btw, why are you discussing something that was OBVIOUS. What did you think was the reason why Kush wanted you 2 modkilled before asking that question? Or is your brain not big enough to consider the fact that you both typed "..." when hosts said to be silent? Give me 1 more reason. I can vote for Mocsta for faking activity on top of the "special" posting. | ||
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On September 21 2013 23:08 Mocsta wrote: Why is making cases alignment indicative? Learn to read. | ||
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<Addendum> The case wasn't total shit for being a couple hours into the game. So extra points for geript. Also, I am not defending geript. You keep asking me about geript. I simply answer. Why is Geript making cases alignment indicative. It isn't. I just don't want to lynch geript atm. I have 0 clues about geript his allignment. Is DP scum? I am not lynching DP. Scum got 6 nk next 2 nights unless crazy vigi happens n1. Let's see if DP is still alive day 3. I like DP posting as well. Now ask me new shit. And answer my question. Why didn't you consider the fact that Kush wanted to see you 2 modkilled for posting "..." in the silent period. And why are you so butthurt about that fact? You even voted kush. Rules are Rules. | ||
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On September 21 2013 23:35 Mocsta wrote: No you came back into the thread, and ignored the entire whirlwind of Geript/DP to want to lynch me because of "special posts".. Disagree. You are making some sort of connection for him being town. I will leave this alone for a little though. Technically, you did answer the questions, regardless of whether it satisfies me. Kush has been banned before for abusing rules. Hes the last person i would expect to give a shit about others doing the same. + last game I replaced into where kush was scum, IIRC he tried to get me modkilled ASAP as well. I just dont see a town kush giving a shit about stuff like that. Personal heuristic. Regardless, I voted wave of shadow yonks ago. I got no new questions. Need more ppl to come back into the thread. I didn't want to lynch either geript or DP. I had my eye on you. I am not defending geript. I am defending myself not having a read on geript. I don't make a connection for a town geript. I point out that geript is not easily readable and an hothead. Well he does. Still you didn't answer my question. What other option was there for Kush to ask for you 2 to get modkilled? Everybody knew it was because you 2 typed in the silent period. Most of us probably after 0.5 seconds thinking, why did it take you 6 hours to not eliminate all other options for Kush asking that? On September 21 2013 23:01 Mocsta wrote: Kush; indulge me. Why did you want me modkilled, along with pandain. So third time. Why did you ask this? Did you really have no clue? Scum motivation ---> Interacting with others. | ||
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Well that isn't true. | ||
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On September 22 2013 01:37 kushm4sta wrote: voice mafia never again hahaha. | ||
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On September 22 2013 01:39 Mattchew wrote: i have opened zaragon, mocsta, raynpelikoneet and lone meow's filters Pretty sure you are not yet in this game? Unless you replaced with somebody. Be careful! | ||
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Pretty nice to point that out Stutters. You cool. | ||
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Pandain sexy fellow. | ||
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On September 22 2013 06:58 justanothertownie wrote: And you think that makes him stop? I am not so sure. You know that he just didn't give a fuck in titanic too and he was town there sadly... So? He clearly is playing anti town. Lynch him. Ez. | ||
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On September 22 2013 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote: I might regret this, but does anyone have any like...previous games of Lone's I can peruse? The previous newbie game. | ||
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On September 22 2013 06:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi why did you vote for Mocsta in the first place? He was being special. | ||
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On September 22 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Just names would suffice - I'm not above doing the legwork. I just am not familiar with his typical play. I'm hung up right now because his tenacity on the Pandain vote reads kinda more townie than scummy in a vacuum...but his refusal to comment on like anything else is very troubling to me. The newbie game that shiaopi hosted. Last one that finished. James bond themed. He was scum. Cant give links cuz on phone. | ||
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On September 22 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Special in what way? What's scummy in that? And is he not special any more? Special posting. And I dont have the mocsta feeling yet. I remember him from Sicilian and GoT, not the same guy. But who knowz? VA best lynch now. | ||
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On September 22 2013 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Special in what way? What's scummy in that? And is he not special any more? Special posting. And I dont have the mocsta feeling yet. I remember him from Sicilian and GoT, not the same guy. But who knowz? VA best lynch now. | ||
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On September 22 2013 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: How does Vayne's posts make him scum? There are only two posts of his in this game. Dude. VA can be an useless fuck when he appears to be trying (persona) now we.are keeping him around when he is rping? Vote VA. You should now why. | ||
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And thats why you pile votes on VA. VA too proud he doesnt get misslynched as town to not break character. If he stays in character he is scum. But you peepz dont get it... so w.e. | ||
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On September 22 2013 08:15 marvellosity wrote: This game is too large to play games like this imo. I don't know why you'd even try. Since when do people massively bandwagon someone for roleplaying a post? Just weird Koshi. Ofc not. I just needed 3-4 smart people to vote VA. Next time VA posted he would have broken characer as town and posted reads or he would claim scum. But better to do nothing with votes atm it seems. | ||
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Reread stuff. Tldr: VA2proud | ||
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About thread: I once heard that yamato as scum does 1 tryhard post and then fucks off as scum. But in this game I feel like it is town yamato. That first post wasnt a scummy trying to not get lynched day 1 post. FirmTofu was scum in Titanic and Persona. I dont feel like he is scum here. Need to reread a bit though. Because FT likes to OMGUS himself when he is scum and I thought I read that once. Not sure yet. | ||
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On September 23 2013 00:29 marvellosity wrote: Koshi, could you tell me what you make of rayn's push on you? Is it warranted? Do you think town-rayn would be able to distinguish from your... lower activity let's say this game compared to normal, and distinguish town/mafia? Rayn his case on me is ok. I am not very transparant atm. It must unsettle rayn a bit. VA vote was to shake VA out of rp, I just read his new log. Funny. Seems like rayn thinks I am scum not based on low activity. Meh. Will be home in 2 hours, hopefully I find a better lynch. Dont know who yet. | ||
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On September 23 2013 00:53 marvellosity wrote: Are you not transparent because of your lack of activity? Apparently not. Why do you think you're coming across that way? Otherwise rayn wouldnt vote me. His vote is based on it. He thinks I am going after easy targets with flawed reasoning. I think that I voted Mocsta before our little chat. But not certain. If so, that is bad for rayn his case. And VA was explained. I dont have other reads. Maybe rayn is a little rattled after my quick jabs at him the first couple hours of the game. Dnu. | ||
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On September 23 2013 01:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: You voted for Mocsta in the middle of your argument, at the late-parts of it. Can you respond to the case. I ll do it when I am home. But your case was pretty okish, the theory. | ||
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On September 23 2013 01:09 marvellosity wrote: Well, I'm assuming only 1 or 2 of the non-posters will be mafia, at most. It's just... mafia is kinda relational, so when pieces are missing, it's just odd. Anyway it doesn't matter because we make do with what we have. Koshi feels really passive here. Phoneposting really boring. | ||
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On September 23 2013 01:31 justanothertownie wrote: Time to get near a computer and be townie like the last games i saw of you. Soon. I don't know how I will be towny yet though. I have no strong feelings about anybody yet. | ||
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On September 23 2013 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Elaborate fully on my case on you. Then tell us who do you want to lynch. Otherwise i make sure you'll get lynched. I will, tsss, we should be friends rayn. | ||
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On September 22 2013 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Don't worry, you'll do it when you do it. Here's the thing. You and Koshi went back and forth. After that Koshi voted for you for (1) posting specially, for you (2) faking activity, and for you (3) thinking Kush is scum for caring about rules. Point (3) was proven wrong as your thingy went on. I did ask Koshi later on why he did vote for you. He only mentioned (1), and that is bullshit. He did not mention (2) at all, while that was the only point that actually could make you scum from the reasons he gave. In other words, his vote was totally crap. After that he swithed his vote to VA. Fair enough, he could do that as town, but he had other scumreads at that moment (WoS) and he never interacts with him at any point at the game. After his rant with you he only talks about VA (and he knows that's useless). TLDR; His votes end up on someone with either shitty reasons or they end up on someone easy to plant a vote on. Or both. That's not what Koshi does as town. Look at the last game where he flipped town. After Titanic Koshi has been the shiny beacon of towniness when he is town. Here he is discussing stupid stuff or discussing no stuff at all and voting for an easy target. I think that makes him scum. ##Vote: Koshi Now, Mocsta, when you are able to; I find it weird that you are saying "Koshi has discussed important matters" because that's horribly wrong. I agree with your vote on Sentinel and if he does not improve his posting / give thoughts on something that's easy to hide behind we lynch him. But Koshi looks worse. He's actively posting but not saying shit. (1) Mocsta was posting baby seals and was using colors and other shit. So why not vote for him? (2) with faking activity I was only referring to him and Kush having a conversation. Even though Mocsta is quite present this game. (3) It's incorrect. So yeah. I even told Mocsta it was incorrect. Kush also cared about the rules in Golden Sun. So I voted Mocsta. Totally understandable. _______ Voting VA was to smack him out of his RP. Would have worked if a couple people joined me. Don't know why you so mad about that. _______ I don't have time to be spammy. Between the spam I sometimes say good shit and that's how you get town reads on me rayn, now that I don't spam it seems like you can't read me. Bit sad. Or maybe it is because the good shit is lacking. Bad news: I will be gone for another 2 days Tuesday/Wednesday. yay! Now let's see if I can find a scummer. | ||
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On September 06 2013 05:53 LoneMeow wrote: As to my top lynch candidate right now, I think I'd want to go for Chairman Ray: His early posts are reasonable, but he seems to be carefully avoiding taking sides and never really calls anyone scum (besides a 0-poster...) before jumping on Lord Velocity for that ridiculous edit mishap. I can easily see scum motivation for wanting not to implicate anyone until an easy target shows up to jump on. I could also consider Infii, but his "big post" does bring up some decent points that would have to be considered. ##Vote: Chairman Ray On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote: Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing. Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious. I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does, ##Vote: Pandain Is this similar? First quote is from LoneMeow his previous scumgame. This is how he votes in his previous town game. On August 20 2013 23:31 LoneMeow wrote: Also, right now I'm agreeing with lynching Deus. ##Vote: DeusXmachina On August 17 2013 18:37 LoneMeow wrote: Ok, that's better. Careful with meta in newbie games though. Now, Squibbles needs to start posting. Or I'll have him hung. ##Vote: Squibbles Looks like scum LoneMeow needs more reasons to plant down a vote than a town LoneMeow who gives less fucks. Thee was one more vote he did in the James Bond scumgame but there he was bussing a mate, that was short and sweet as well. | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi are you making a case or asking people "can i lynch this guy"? Also do you still think VA is scum? 1) I asked if it was similar. imo it is very similar. I will vote for the Stray Kitten, but I am looking into yamato atm. First opinion he is not scum. 2) I never thought VA is scum. You still don't get what I was trying to do? | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: On (2), no, i do not get it. Explain it to me please. VA is proud about 2 things. 1) he always plays a different style. 2) he doesn't get misslynched as town. Obviously he is doing 1) again, but by piling votes on him he is forced to give out stronger reads / break character to make sure 2) doesn't happen. If he would have continued doing nothing he was probably scum. | ||
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Sentinel overall disappointing. Expected more. FirmTofu same shizzle. Also somewhat funny he says DP isn't scary while he was only 50% through the thread. Strong stance for being behind on reading. Let's see who to sheep though. marv hasn't voted yet. I am probably going to sheep DP. But I feel strongest about LoneMeow atm. | ||
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[QUOTE]On September 23 2013 03:53 Koshi wrote: [QUOTE]On September 23 2013 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: [QUOTE]On September 23 2013 03:48 Koshi wrote: [QUOTE]On September 23 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi are you making a case or asking people "can i lynch this guy"? Also do you still think VA is scum?[/QUOTE] 1) I asked if it was similar. imo it is very similar. I will vote for the Stray Kitten, but I am looking into yamato atm. First opinion he is not scum. 2) I never thought VA is scum. You still don't get what I was trying to do?[/QUOTE] On (2), no, i do not get it. Explain it to me please.[/QUOTE] VA is proud about 2 things. 1) he always plays a different style. 2) he doesn't get misslynched as town. Obviously he is doing 1) again, but by piling votes on him he is forced to give out stronger reads / break character to make sure 2) doesn't happen. If he would have continued doing nothing he was probably scum.[/QUOTE] So why did you not push more votes on him instead of giving up when someone disagrees with you? You got Pandain to vote with you, why is it impossible for you to push your agenda if i disagree with you? That's not town!Koshi'y. I wasn't home and enough people already said that it wasn't going to happen. So nha. | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: So why did you not push more votes on him instead of giving up when someone disagrees with you? You got Pandain to vote with you, why is it impossible for you to push your agenda if i disagree with you? That's not town!Koshi'y. I wasn't home and enough people already said that it wasn't going to happen. So nha. | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who did say that? Me, marv and Mocsta. One of those guys is a dude you had a scumread on. Why can't we be scum defending Vayne? Do you think we were being reasonable? Pretty sure enough time passed that it wasn't going to happen. It would also look extremely bad if I kept hammering on it. So nha, it wasn't going to happen. Don't be silly, you know it as well. | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote: I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try. Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though. ##Vote: Umasi Here for a while if you want to ask me something. Are you aware that you post a couple paragraphs of defensive reads when you vote as scum? And that you don't do that as town? | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:19 LoneMeow wrote: Who, then? Myself? I can do that if you think it's better. Yes please do. | ||
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Dude, if you are town that is the worst thing you can do? Do you realize you did something that is close to claiming scum? Why are you doing this? | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:26 LoneMeow wrote: What's the wtf here? The way I see it, I have 3 options: 1) vote my only scum read (against whom I know I'm biased) 2) vote myself 3) vote at random None of the options is really better than the others, so... 1) Vote for 1 out of 29 people and know that you hit 6/29 scum. 2) Vote for yourself that is 1/1 town. So unless you are scum. How is voting yourself going to help town? | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Since when have you been concerned about looking bad as town? I am confused now. Why did you even start that shit in the first place as the outcomes are: 1) Vayne gives no shits about your vote and that doesn't tell anything about him 2) Vayne breaks his character, does that make him town? 3) You end up looking bad when people disagree with you 1) If 4-5 people would have voted VA he would have. Especially in this game where 2 votes are enough to be lynched. But thread wasn't going to do it, and even condemned doing so. So I abandoned ship/plan. 2) More likely than when he doesn't. 3) what? | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:29 LoneMeow wrote: I've read and re-read the thread and filters all the time I had. I'm simply nowhere near good enough for games with players of this caliber. Then don't get lynched as town... We need to get rid of 2 scummers rather fast because the 3 NK shizzle. It's already enough if you don't get lynched as town on D1... No need to find all the scummers. | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:39 LoneMeow wrote: How am I supposed to do that when I have no reads and no thread presence? Should have done something else... Give me 6 names that might be scum. | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am going back to sauna. Elaborate on your scumreads. I don't have any strong reads. FT, LoneMeow. One of these my vote will end up. | ||
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On September 23 2013 05:20 Stutters695 wrote: Seriously guys, can anyone give me a reason to not vote kush? It's day 1. He said more than usual anyway. | ||
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On September 23 2013 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Elaborate on FT. What do you mean by "i would expect more from him"? He had a discussion with DP and then out of this discussion he had a scumread on VE. It also seemed like he had first a scumread on DP and then in the discussion with DP he ended up with a townread and then decided that DP buddies were scum? Something like that. | ||
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Then you said: why. Then I said: I expected more. Then you said: elaborate. Then I summed up all his actions in 2 sentences. Then you said I said FT was scum. Then I made this post. | ||
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On September 23 2013 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: yamato could you comment on Koshi. This is basically what he has done: 1) Called out Mocsta for bad reasons. 2) When Vayne made a non-alignment indicative post, retracted from the vote on Mocsta and voted for Vayne. 3) Retracted from Vayne because some people called his vote out. 4) Called some random people scum and voted for LoneMeow for martyring. 5) Reasoning for FT being scum is... no, actually there is no reasoning, Koshi just summed up what FT has done this game. TLDR; Bad, useless posts, fear of being called out for his ideas/intentions, summing up what someone said and calling them scumfor it without conclusions. And that's my case, Koshi is scum. 1) Not really. Mocsta posting baby seal and posting trash was strange. Also. I had somewhat off a scumvibe on him. dat gut. 2) Wanted to shake VA out of RP. 3) Yes. so? 4) Nha, I said I could vote for these random people. LM was between them. Then LM decided to martyr. 5) Not scum. 60 posts about me rayn. Might want to start looking at others because I am not scum. | ||
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On September 23 2013 06:25 Stutters695 wrote: So because you expected more you want to lynch him? Do you think he is town or scum, this bull "I never said he's scum, but I'd lynch him" shit isn't working for me. Null, but could lynch. Dnu what is so hard to understand about that. | ||
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On September 23 2013 06:27 ObviousOne wrote: First sentence. Wow. That's scummy as fuck. Also totes true. | ||
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On September 23 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, can you just vote for Koshi everyone? He's scum. Can you be less bad? At this point it is annoying. | ||
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Cool. Chairman Ray wants to lynch me. Now look at your townreads. Do they want to lynch me? Is mocsta a townread for you? Is VA? | ||
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On September 23 2013 07:24 marvellosity wrote: Here's something interesting guys. Remember I posted about this? Well, rayn was confident later, and DP didn't back him. Well, DP read some of my filters from other games and decided not to lynch me. | ||
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On September 23 2013 07:29 marvellosity wrote: No. Should he have to be reminded of what he said? On September 22 2013 23:10 DarthPunk wrote: OK I read Koshi's filter and it seemed to contain a lot of one liners. Wasn't he going away though and stated before the game started that he would potentially be phone posting? If he is limited to phone posting then his filter makes a lot more sense as it is much more convenient to stick to one liners whilst phone posting. Like I am unfamiliar with the standard of play required from Koshi. If it is a high standard and he is usually active and curious and writes good posts then I would be concerned that he was flying under the radar. But if I discounted meta, then I would probably not want to lynch Koshi and here is why. Here he states when questioned about both myself and geript that he does not want to lynch us? Why would a scum that is trying to fly under the radar take that position on both of us? I think as scum it would be far easier and more convenient to just side with one or the other and no one would really care. Saying that you don;t want to lynch either draws attention to Koshi and if we read his filter and decide that he is trying to lay low, taking a controversial position just does not gel with that mindset. He did come back on it... He just didn't back rayn. | ||
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On September 23 2013 07:43 justanothertownie wrote: So, who are the lynch candidates worth looking into right now? Ray/Koshi/?... I won't be here for the lynch (impossible time for me) so I will have to find a target soon. Don't lynch Koshi. He is town. | ||
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On September 23 2013 07:45 yamato77 wrote: If people don't feel good about lynching Ray, I'd be more than happy leading the gallows to Mocsta. Yes! He posted a baby seal and it is against the law to post babyseals when you are town. | ||
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On September 23 2013 07:47 justanothertownie wrote: Sorry, coming from you that is not very convincing.^^ I am really missing your aggressive light hearted playstyle. You seem to be very passive this game. Why can't I be town without being aggressive & light hearted? | ||
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On September 23 2013 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote: You have a lot of history with koshi, but this is my first time playing with him. With that being given, do you think my read on him was reasonable? Right now, I still believe koshi may be scum. I might be willing to accept that he just followed your vote in the first place, but he's active in this thread right now, I'm inviting him to give me some analysis on why he's voting me, and there still hasn't been anything yet. I still disagree with your analysis on my first post. You may have an extensive experience, but that doesn't mean you are correct. In this case, you definitely do have a misread on me, but I hope that we can resolve that now instead of post game. At the same time, I made a lot of rookie mistakes that caused you to have such a strong scumread on me. I would like to win this game so if there's any way that I could make myself easier to read for you and everyone else here, feel free to say it. If I could improve now, that may mean the difference between a win and a loss. Otherwise I'll probably be seeking your help postgame. Right now my radar is still on koshi despite you disagreeing with me. However if you are confident that he's town, then I could use some of your analysis as well on why he is, so I have a more educated vote. I still would like to hear from koshi on why he's voting me. How can you be still on me? You had 2 reasons to be on me? 1) I voted you without reason Answer: I voted you because I sheeped total townread yamato. People that think yamato is scum are not very intelligent. 2) I asked for consolidation and you thought that was bad for town. Anwser: It isn't bad for town. So your 2 shitty reasons were denied and you are still on me? wtf is that all about? | ||
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@rayn: WoS made a big ass post about secret taktics and it reminded me of his sekret tactics in Persona. @marv: I am here, reading everything. I don't know what to do. @JAT: Yes, I play different this time. I think it is because it is a big game now. I don't remember what I did right in Aperture that I am not doing now, probably activity. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi what are those "secret taktics" you are referring to? ... This time he was trying to get a read on DP by posting nonsense. In Persona it was the thing with not talking in N0. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:02 yamato77 wrote: Read through his vote on LoneMeow and give me your honest interpretation. On September 23 2013 04:31 Chairman Ray wrote: Why would you say that voting Umasi is a terrible idea, yet vote him anyways? It seems to me like you are scum trying to get achieve a town mislynch D1, but unable to muster up any strong cases on anybody. So instead of posting a weak case against them and have everyone call you out on it, you beat us to the punch by telling us your case is poor to begin with. If you are really town, then a town who intentionally makes a bad vote is still hurting town. ##Vote: LoneMeow I actually have no problem with the reason why CR voted LM. But that last sentence is really strange. Remove that last sentence and I actually like it, but that last sentence is just strange. Don't know why that was added. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:29 yamato77 wrote: So, outside of his first post, is there anything meaningful that would make you lean one way or the other about him? Well he is attacking me for 2 reasons that you shut down immediately. He even brought it up again and you shot it down again. After that he is still on my ass. Dnu, what that is all about. | ||
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On September 23 2013 08:34 yamato77 wrote: Meh, he explained it well enough IMO. I'm having second thoughts about his lynch. Well, find us somebody else! | ||
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LoneMeow is still voting for himself. The guy must be depressed that he can't solve the game D1 or something. Chairman Ray. Could vote him. But would be kinda cruel if he gets misslynched D1 twice in a row lol. Mocsta: could vote. I have this urge to follow VA. Had it last time as well. Dnu what that is all about. FT, Sentinel: meh. Voting 0-posters is bad btw. Unless you got townreads on everybody it is only 1/5 scum. Also, there are plenty replacements. Good ones as well. I like the replacements way more than the people that will be replaced. On average. A lot. | ||
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On September 23 2013 09:10 WaveofShadow wrote: Marv is working slowly because he doesn't want to be the primary pusher of a lynch today, it seems. Maybe so it becomes more difficult for people like you to simply sit back and sheep? marv is so evul. | ||
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Don't want to lynch the kitten. He said that he read all the filters many times but got demotivated. Meh, can't believe he is going to flip scum. Scum QT would have guided him, doesn't feel like he is being guided. While he would be the person that searches for help there. So FT seems like a good bet. Didn't do shit. PS: Please don't lynch me. I promise I am town. pinky swear. | ||
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30 peepz, 6 scum, 1/5 scum, 5 lurkers, 1 scum. | ||
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Useless. Makes it easier for us to spot scummers on CR. Lynch was a mess. | ||
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On September 23 2013 16:47 DarthPunk wrote: Read kush's filter and then read Stutters case on kush. Then think of the last two games of his where he clearly gave a shit enough to be night killed. Then come back and tell me Kush is giving a shit this game. If you can do that then I can re think kush. Up until that point I think kush is likely to be scum. He actually got misslynched last game (golden sun), while he came off a very good town game in Persona. Dnu about Kush tbh. Wouldn't shoot him. | ||
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On September 23 2013 17:02 DarthPunk wrote: Oh ok. But yeah. He has the ability to give a shit about the game and this game he clearly doesn't. So many games that he doesn't give shit while town though, especially in big games. GoT comes to mind. Don't know if it is the best shot D1. Also, better hit scum than to do crapshoots. I don't know how many docs we have, but if 3 nk keep happenening then we don't have too many misslynches. What about holding vigi shots till N2? FT is the only one I want to see shot tbh. | ||
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On September 23 2013 17:06 LoneMeow wrote: Here now and hopefully a bit more coherent with less pain and so. Sorry about ruining the game. Also, I don't get to choose when I have to leave as long as I am staying with my parents. DP is town I think, his anger at the hosting messup seems genuine. This is why I wanted to vote Umasi, it just makes no sense from town perspective. It really looks like he was just trying to see if that'd gain any traction and let it go when it looked like it would not. Why would town do that? There is a giant mark on your head. Try to be as useful as possible please. You said you read all filters multiple times, try to give some reads. Townreads, nullreads, things that you think are suspicious. Anything. Feel free to spam everything that comes to mind. | ||
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On September 23 2013 17:35 LoneMeow wrote: Typing with one hand I manage about 5-6 WPM (instead of the usual 70+, it's quite frustrating really...) so I won't be able to spam even if I try, but I'll try to find something once I'm done with my Scala assignments. Anyone in particular I should look into first? Nha. If you have more problems with typing then try to read a lot. Mocsta, rayn, Cheesecake, VE seem like interesting people to keep a close eye on. Firmtofu, Risen, Kush, Sentinel are never going to get killed by scum most likely. Try to read their filter and get a scummotivation behind any of their posting. Or give townreads and tell us why they should not get lynched. Then there is Coag and OO that I don't want to touch. Imho those 2 are pretty decent vigi targets as well. | ||
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On September 23 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote: koshi. how the fudge can u still be doubting. man up and interrogate me. Dunno why you buddy up with rayn so much. The guy can't make 2 posts without naming me once. It's truly dumb. | ||
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On September 23 2013 17:53 Mocsta wrote: I don't think I have buddied rayn, because neither of us have gone out of our way to work with each other. I freely admit he is a town read. in fact, he is my strongest town read. dare I say, confirmed town. is this why u voted me... an omgus via rayn? Ofc not? I voted you way before rayn was in the picture lol? But you have been buddying rayn. And how the fuck can he be your strongest townread? The guy literally has done nothing but push me, and not close as agressive as he does when he is really certain about people being mafia. But he must be pretty sure because he does nothing else at all. Read Persona, rayn filter from page 6 to 11 or something. Agressive like fuck towards WoS. Thinks people are scum for not believing him (Mr Snowman) While being certain about WoS starts making cases and interrogating Snowman. Gives away townreads. Keeps hammering on why WoS is scum. Reasons are actually pretty good. Not the meta bullshit he is feeding you guys about me. Or the total shit he says about my vote on VA. Things like he is voting CR while CR is voting for me and I am voting for CR DOES NOT MAKE SENSE when I am scum. rayn knows I am not bussing anybody as scum, I even have a very hard time interacting with my fellow scumfellows. Well, I had in GoT which was my last scumgame which rayn loves to meta me on. So if rayn is certain I am scum, then he would never vote for people like Chairman Ray, or even FT. Or if he would, he would say something about it, he cant stfu about me, so he isn't going to mention this when voting for CR or FT? Fucking bullshit. But he doesn't say shit about it. He gives some silly reasons why he is not voting FT and why he is voting CR. Perfectly in line with his reads he gave me when I asked for his other scumreads. And no. Rayn shouldn't be a total bitch because I am not spamming up the thread and be my "beacon of townyness" that I might be sometimes in a fucking mini. In Persona I had my SAM claim, and in Golden Sun, rayn was quite suspicious of me early on as well. So dnu. So wtf did rayn think I could have done differently with limited time? I have no strong reads on this game yet. compared to rayn his 1 read that is totally fucking shit, and he spammed that read 70 times now. While making 1 silly case, containing 3 points, 1 was total shit, 1 is pure meta, and then he is mad that I voted Mocsta? Fuck that. Mocsta can be scum, and read that first page with the colors and the seal and w.e. Shit aint that great. And guess what? Rayn hasn't got a townread on Mocsta or VA, 2 people I targetted, so why are my votes bad? They aren't. Nha. rayn is shit. We will see if he is scum or town. But having a townread on rayn for this utter crap is shit. Mocsta the only reason why you would think rayn is town for all this silly pushing on me is because you are scum. The guy has done nothing else. Unless you got a giant scumread on me and you agree with rayn. But you don't. Also, Mocsta, you are far worse than when you replaced into games. Less strong reads. In Sicilian you helped me find Kush as last scum. In GoT you nailed 3/4 scums after your initial reads. Now there is nothing that makes me think, hey this Mocsta is a total boss. /end rant | ||
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OO Risen Coag rayn Firmtofu Those are good vigi targets. | ||
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On September 23 2013 18:22 ObviousOne wrote: Its staggeringly easy to know when I'm scum. All you have to do is look at a couple previous games. I mean if you don't actually care whether or not I'm scum, by all means put me on your little list. But maybe, hey for giggles, look at two scum games and two town games of mine (they're in my profile) before you go telling people to shoot me. Vigis do what he says. I didn't look into you. | ||
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On September 23 2013 18:24 Mocsta wrote: actually, my read on rayn has nothing to do with the koshi push. that's alignment null.. in my opinion he could push u like that as town or scum. I don't care if u think my play I'd bad. its co pletely different playing day1 to replacing in. when u replace, u can instantly analyse the thread. being here day1 means I have to generate convo... man, I wanted yo lurk this game, but after the shitfight, someone had to step up. if it wasn't clear, my first post with seals was written before joining the game. Dont understand why you think that rayn is 100% town if his 70 post towards me are total null. People like yamato, those are 100% town. | ||
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On September 23 2013 18:28 marvellosity wrote: By and large these vigi targets are shocking, as are at least one of your doc protect targets. You should be ignored. Nope my doc list is very good. Really happy about it. Vigi list is maybe a bit opportunistic with OO and coag on it. But I have no meta on them and their filter is terrible. | ||
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On September 23 2013 18:37 marvellosity wrote: I pray to god a player like Koshi doesn't roll doc if he advocates medicing geript over me, for example. Nha, I am a bit torn about you but meh, CC and marv fell off my doc list. | ||
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On September 23 2013 18:38 marvellosity wrote: You don't doc people because you think they're really town, Koshi. You doc assetts. Ahyeah true. Ok, remove geript. | ||
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100% town. His last scumgames compared to this. 100% town. The only reason he might be scum is because he found new love in rolling scum because he played voice mafia with you guys or something in those lines. | ||
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On September 23 2013 18:45 DarthPunk wrote: I agree that this is nothing like his last mafia game. But, to be fair, he didn't actually try in his previous mafia game. So if he WAS trying. Then he could play like this as scum. Fact is he rolled scum 3 times in the last 4 games and 3 times he played exactly the same which was totally different than now. Pretty good reasons to see him as 100% town till Day 4. | ||
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On September 23 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote: Because, the push itself is null.. he could easily tunnel you relentlessly as either alignment (just like myself). Rayn is town for a couple reasons; i dont need to outline them all, but the one that is pertinent here is that he has continuously tried to alter his approach to get people to understand his pov. i haven't played with a scum that does this yet scum tunnel is.. here is my info... scream im right.. if the scum player is good, they will update the case as the thread continues. rayn is proactively trying to find out why his case isnt getting traction and then making adjustments to correct that.. thats fuckn townie.. regadless of whether teh case is wrong or right... He obviously beleives in his case, and you havent given him an answer yet that has satisfied him.. As i alluded to before, i believe it is because he holds you to a higher content standard than the rest of the thread. Nope. It is 80% meta about my scumgame with him. 20% because I am not playing like I have been in my previous game as town. We will see. He can't up this shit much longer. | ||
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Yamato DP BH marv (ok, maybe I am a bit butthurt about the bad lynch, so you can be on Koshi doclist as well, it's a true honor.) Final answer. Last list. yay! | ||
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On September 23 2013 19:04 Mocsta wrote: Wtf is blahzinghand on there for.... and fuck u too koshi :D so funny. | ||
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On September 23 2013 19:22 Mocsta wrote: Yeah, like thers suspect ppl in that list for sure. BUT .. 5 to 6 ppl replaced in.. Are you suggesting it is likely they are all town? 3 people replaced in. Onegu is a big ??? | ||
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On September 23 2013 19:27 FirmTofu wrote: I would actually place myself in the category right before that one, but I can see why you might think that. The group that is most likely scum? wtf. | ||
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On September 23 2013 19:42 FirmTofu wrote: So yeah, if I had a shot right now, I'd shoot Zaragon. Marv, you need anything from me? Rayn, scum or nay? | ||
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On September 23 2013 19:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: CR i am disappoint son.. ffs. Koshi, you need to understand that Chairman Ray voting for you had -- and shouldn't have -- nothing to do with my vote on him. I don't make connection cases pre-flip, there was a possibility that he is scum and you are town, he was my second top scumread. Therefore i voted for him. Mocsta is right in what he says about me, i hold you (Koshi) up to higher standards that you showed us on D1. From your N1 posting you look better. You are not giving a fuck what anyone thinks, you are voicing your opinion. That's not what you did on D1, you were giving bad reasons and instead of doing what you are doing now (being confident in yourself) you were more blendy and non-commital in your reads. Keep that up, makes me feel much better about you. Also your FT vote looks much better now given that CR flipped town (i still don't understand it though -- but overall it looks better as there is a fair chance FT is scum). I want to hear FT's reads too.. That's all fine and dandy. But you went in a tunnel and never came out. Didn't even bother commenting on anything else. So nha, I was easy pickings for you to tunnel and as scum I can completely see you doing just that. | ||
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On September 23 2013 19:48 geript wrote: Oh to have an extra bullet. I'd shoot FT for these piles of bs. Just use the first one. | ||
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On September 23 2013 19:56 geript wrote: So is nobody else find coag's choice of shot weird? I mean, at least he's town then and shit but ugh. I don't believe you are a vigi because you said so. I don't believe Cheese is a vigi because he said so. I don't believe Coag is a vigi because he said so. | ||
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On September 23 2013 20:11 DarthPunk wrote: What is dull about it? I believe he is a Vig. I believe I am getting shot incredibly stupidly, I obviously can't do anything to get geript out of his moronic tunnel, So I need other people to do it for me. I am legitimately concerned about getting shot. And I don't know why you wouldn't be concerned about me getting shot. I think geript is total boss. He is a parity cop, he pretends to be shooting you. So scum wont kill/rb geript, and wont kill you. Total boss town play. | ||
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On September 23 2013 20:14 DarthPunk wrote: I did consider something similar. But then his attacks on me felt to genuine. Thats why it is total boss. | ||
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On September 23 2013 20:15 marvellosity wrote: Then why are you even mentioning it as a possibility Koshi? It is hard to believe. But there is a chance (even small) that there is a scummer as smart as me. Also now DP is total relaxed and can give his scumreads. | ||
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On September 23 2013 20:26 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah. I think marv could be scum. I'll post a thorough case on him by deadline. It is hard to get marv lynched so it will be a lot of work. See that's why I didn't want to put marv on my doclist. Dat feeling. | ||
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On September 23 2013 21:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know. I am willing to let you do your stuff. Don't waste it by OMGUSing me. Because if you do so then i will be mad. If you think i am scum fair enough, then give reasons for it. But don't just shit on for no reason. That's not gonna help anyone. rofl. we will see. you are on the scum side of things for sure. | ||
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On September 23 2013 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi before you go can you gimme 3 scumreads that are not me with reasoning? Sure, soonish. Don't think I will come up with groundbreaking results. | ||
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On September 23 2013 21:43 yamato77 wrote: This Marv push from DP is like, the dumbest thing I've ever seen. DP almost HAS to be scum hamming it up. He could not be this butthurt as town, no way. Hey! Be more nice to my only other townread please. Thank you! | ||
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So everybody thought there were still 3.5h before the lynch, but then out of the blue the host said that we only had 0.5h left and then 0.5h later he closed the votes. That's it right? yes/no is enough. | ||
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On September 23 2013 21:59 DarthPunk wrote: I'm going to ask for a replacement. Im done with mafia. GL town. Why? It's part of the game imho. Just become a lurker and find scummers in secret! Pretty sure we are also out of replacements. Onegu not being replaced and all. | ||
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On September 23 2013 11:02 geript wrote: ##unvote ##vote chairman ray So this vote is super super strange. geript plz explain. | ||
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On September 23 2013 11:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I think that in itself might give some discussion to LM's alignment. Please tell me why exactly you wrote this sentence. | ||
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On September 23 2013 22:17 DarthPunk wrote: I've asked for a replacement so hopefully MZ can find one. Otherwise he can modkill me and save geript the trouble. Can you please not do this? Just read the game at your own pace. Stop replying in the thread and find scummers. Unless you get replaced. Modkill pretty bad unless you are scum. Then you can get modkilled tbh and not feel bad about it. | ||
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Actually you should really wait till the flips. Maybe geript and yamato are playing you because they are scum. Stop playing when they both flip town. It's a legit scumtactic tbh. | ||
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Follow up question: did you sheep marv? Marv voted right before he knew there were only 30 minutes left. You after. You made CR the leading candidate. | ||
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This game you didn't want to vote FT because he did more than he did in other games. Which is laughable, compared to what he did in Titanic for example. | ||
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I simply don't see rayn giving me up so easily, there simply wasn't enough anger and caps to try and lynch me. Problem is I don't see you saving FT like that. Even though you are also not the bussing kind of scumplayer. Even though you like to have conversation with your fellow scummers. | ||
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Fact is this: 1) rayn doesn't buss fellow scummers. However, he interacts with them. Townreads/scumreads doesn't matter. 2) rayn didn't tried to lynch me on the towny rayn way. Not enough caps, not enough times repeating why I am scum, too many times asking people to look at me. 3) I have no clue why rayn voted CR except for the fact he said CR was another scumread of his when I asked. And CR being less scummy than FT because FT did way more he has done in his last couple of town games on D1. While it's not much, and i disagree with a lot of stuff he is saying, it still is way better and he seemed like trying. Guess what, saying this that rayn disagrees with is a really good way for rayn to lynch your ass. Also, if FT did more than his recent towngames, wouldn't that make it more likely he is mafia? So rayn gave many (untypical rayn) reasons why not to vote FT, and didn't gave any reasons why he voted CR. Except for "CR is the most scummy except Koshi". So rayn pretty scummy tbh. | ||
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On September 23 2013 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: I explained why i did vote for CR over FT. You didn't. You said why you didn't vote FT. But never why CR was scummy. | ||
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On September 23 2013 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can't quote anything because i did not make a case on him. I agreed with what yamato said on him. How FirmTofu enters the game as scum is that he calls me scum in this manner; "soon rayn is going to find some bullshit reason to vote for me" and after that he calls my reads bad and calls me bad. That's not what he has done this game. In his last couple of town games he has been afk the entire D1, and got lynched for it. Look at the chat me/him/marv had after Desert. I didn't find him to be the best lynch because in this game he did not discredit me from the game start and he seemed to follow the advice he was given after Desert mafia. While his contributions were not good, they were not normal scum-FT'ish. I do not know if he is scum or not, because on N1 he has shown some characteristics that are similar to his scumplay (for example his really weird read on me). 1) Incorrect. 2) Incorrect. 3) So what am i supposed to do if the lynch i am pushing is not gonna happen? Vote for my null/townread instead of a scumread from the candidates that ARE possibly gonna get lynched? Waste my vote? wtf? 1) correct 2) correct 3) actually say why you vote for somebody. You didn't even say "I agree with yamato" when you voted CR, you just gave shitty reasons why you didn't vote FT. ^ I can't do this all day sadly enough because I am gone in 40 minutes for 48 hours. Bolded part) Well he didn't attack you, he even gave you a townread. But I am pretty sure he came in the thread calling DP scum because of the argument with geript, then went on and said geript was an inbred retard, then went on giving DP a townread, and then said VE was scum for buddying DP. Again, I already summed up that he did that while voting for FT. Can you please explain to me why FT is town for not attacking you but attacking somebody else instead while entering the thread? Why does it have to be you when he enters the thread? Your FT meta-read is: FT attacks me while entering the thread = FT is scum FT attacks somebody else while entering the thread = FT is town How close am I? | ||
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FT attacks somebody while entering the thread = scum FT makes some silly police post/opening post for which he gets a lot of flak = town That would be more FT meta. But it changed last 2 months so meh. | ||
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So. Scummers plz stack kills or docs please do your work. Or vigis shoot scummers. Shit like that. | ||
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Don't really think you are superscummy tbh. We will see what you do tomorrow. As for the scumreads that you want me to give. geript, exceptionally strange voteswitch. Mocsta selfclaimed voice of reasoning hasn't been around last couple of hours, should be good hour for aussies. Bad feeling about him. Not sure. Its D1. Depends if he picks shit up. FT. Want to see his flip. Truly hope he gets Vigid. Like really really hope it. But Day 2 will be important after night kills. Town could already collapse + somebody should do the math but I think we really can't have too many bad lynches because with 5 alive scummers still have 3 NK, and with 4/3 alive they have 2NK so unless we really have a lot of docs it will end bad really fast. So I hope good townies don't tunnel Day 2 and keep the whip on the thread. Not focussing too much on afkers/baddies. Need a really good day 2 to win this shizzle. We got modkills and seems like replacements are not yet playing. Also good players really being on/off. Doesn't look too good atm. But like I said, really depends on how many NKs always go through. I am off now. 48 hours no Koshi. Hope I wont get lynched. Pushing my lynch Day 2 is really silly. | ||
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If FT gets vigged and he flips scum. Then the people that voted him (geript, rayn, lesser extand Sentinel) look extra bad. Because it is already strange rayn votes CR like I described, geript being a hothead as he is not voting for FT after condemning FT for calling him names but if FT flips scum it is REALLY REALLY strange. | ||
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On September 24 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Even if you are phone posting you will! I know you will if you are town! <3 Yeah but I am having a cursus with some pretty high people in my company. Cant be sneaky. Also. My hotel better has wifi cuz I am not paying international bandwith. | ||
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Good news, I have wifi. Also, I am still alive. | ||
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On September 24 2013 05:32 Coagulation wrote: So marv you dont have any reaction to me using my vigi shot on ve? just pissing off? Please use it on scum. | ||
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On September 24 2013 05:52 Coagulation wrote: general thread sentiment seems to point at lonemeow but I dont like that shot much. Thread sentiment is FT tbh. LoneMeow is a good shot but really 50/50. Also, I am not disliking the guy. He cool. If he keeps trying. Like I said, cant believe scum let him play like that, and he was scum last game and didnt play so depressed then. So meh shot indeed. | ||
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On September 24 2013 07:32 marvellosity wrote: stop doing this. it's not even funny or interesting. I giggled. | ||
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Really didnt like the coag shot, but I guess he is confirmed town with yamato claiming to be shot + protected. I also think the VA reads should have some weight, it is the first time I have seen VA actually give multiple reads. And it is very interested he added rayn because they play in a lot of minis and VA never gives strong reads like this. I am somewhat sad he got shot over people like FT. somewhat surprised that not more vigis acted n1. Also there is no RB claims? Strange? Anyway, I only glanced over the posts since p140. Nothing too special I think. For people I.would vote tomorrow. I think I am going to look deeper into the reads VA gave and 1 out of those 4 or sheep thread. I should have 2-3 hours to play the game tomorrow. Around 23 hours from now. I really have nothing to add of value atm. Please note down that in the 2 months I have played mafia I have not afked like this ever. So just give me this cycle at least. Thread sentiment is that I am town. Happy I could at least prove that again. So yeah, I do not know how.many vigs/docs/cops we should have. But lynching somebody from the WoS/VA list shouldnt be too horrible. Or at least they should be discussed if they are.on both lists. Because VA does not give reads like this easily, he could have done it to save his skin though. Out of active posters I really could lynch rayn tbh. Like today he asked good questions it seems, but I am lacking the rayn drive behind those questions. Normally in town games when he asks questions, you have this feeling if it is answered wrongly in rayns opinion, you will get tunneled. Or if he interacts with not scumreads of his, you have a general idea why he asks it, it is driven by a scumread of his. Like read the Acrofoles/rayn interactions from GoT, you really miss the drive behind some of the conversations. Also, early this day. He said I might still be scum. And that is really a strange thing for rayn to say. Mocsta knows this, but even in voice mafia I have to only open my mouth and rayn gives me a 100% townread. This does not mean rayn reads me like a book, but he picks up on some posts of mine that he can say "oh because these 5 posts, Koshi is 100%town" and after n1 in which I was really townmeta Koshi. I find it strange rayn is not more certain about his read. Like even if I am scum, because I posted this way rayn should b more certain I feel like. If you understand what I mean. I am not scum obviously, but the restriction rayn has is strange. That and his tunnel d1 on me felt forced now. But dont think he will get lynched today so it seems. So pretty sure rayn & me will have long conversations d3 lol. PS: I cant read rayn btw. But the warm comfort he reads me correct is missing. And the Koshi tunnel day 1 felt not raynlike, even though thepoints he brought up.were.valid. | ||
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On September 25 2013 14:25 kushm4sta wrote: i am for real sick. if i dont feel better by tomorrow i will ask for a replacement. which i dont do lightly Totes town. Also still reading. | ||
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That being said. Rayn is scum. It is obvious. Do I really need to explain it? Really? #vote rayn | ||
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On September 26 2013 04:18 LoneMeow wrote: Between Cephiro and FirmTofu I'd prefer to lynch FirmTofu. I'll try to be back before deadline but as I'm not even sure anymore when it is, no guarantees. ##Vote: FirmTofu No. Lynch rayn please. | ||
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On September 26 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi have you been following the game on D2? Why have you not posted? I read everything in the last hour. | ||
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You haven't posted anything that was going to help town achieve their wincon at the same time you posted it. Your read on JAT is the dumbest thing ever. I don't even know what it is with you and JAT tbh. It's horrendous. Your only 100% give aways were on general reads. Your push on me was not raynlike. You letting go of your push on me was not raynlike. That's maybe some things others can easily see. But fact is I know you are scum. | ||
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1) Pandain thought you were scum and made a case on you. 2) Pandain went back on that read and thinks you are town and makes a case on you. 3) Pandain defends you. Are these Pandain reads all town to you? Stutters, Cephiro, VE. I don't give 2 fucks what you think about Pandain his case for a sec, do you think these 3 names are town? Give me %. Then the shit about voting VA (or marv in lesser extend) was fucking brilliant. Also why is it scummy? | ||
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On September 26 2013 05:02 Pandain wrote: Let me know if anyone else finds it convincing and I'll easily rebut it. Nope Sentinel is drunk or something. I would use other words but I really want to play in his mafia game. Please help me lynch rayn. | ||
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On September 26 2013 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote: As far as I know, the lynch was never limited to Cephiro and FT. Sentinel is still an option, I'm now on the table for some, but for some reason LM chose FT between FT and Cephiro. This is scummy why? | ||
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On September 26 2013 05:42 justanothertownie wrote: Well, I guess you must be happy about this then: ##vote Cephiro I can't believe you come into the thread after such a long time and the best you have got is this. You didn't see a single thing in this thread being scummier than me not taking hard stances? Really? Is he scum for saying you are scum? | ||
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On September 26 2013 05:55 justanothertownie wrote: Partly. He is scum for doing nothing and choosing me as his target when there are much scummier possibilities. But you aren't getting lynched and he is. | ||
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Why is he picking you when there are "scummier possibilities" that might get lynched. Wouldn't that be better as scum? | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:01 VisceraEyes wrote: 1) Not alignment indicative. I would read the thread regardless of my alignment, and I'm wont to lurk these days regardless of alignment. I'm here when I can be, and I comment on pertinent issues when I can. This does not make me scum. 2) It has nothing to do with "casting doubt". It has to do with getting burned as fuck by people (myself included) confirming someone as town when they (we) absolutely should NOT have. I may believe that Yamato is town (and I do, presently) but that doesn't mean that he's "confirmed town". As I said before: the only confirmed town are the dead. 3) I don't even know what you're referring to here. Maybe a quote or something could help. 4) Again, this isn't alignment indicative in the least. Once upon a time in my mafia career, yes. Nowadays, not so much. However I have been, as you say, commenting, agreeing or disagreeing with things. I don't understand why you say this is a point against me, if anything it shows that I'm trying to figure out the game WITH others. But whatever. This is a null tell. 5) WIFOM. Also as scum I don't shoot people who are suspicious of me. I shoot people who are NOT suspicious of me. Ask anyone. WIFOM defense of a WIFOM point. Suck it bro. 6) Maybe you could explain how this "random vote" is bad. You may not like my reasons, but it's not a BAD vote - guy hasn't done anything and I think he's a fine vote for today. In short, this case is bad and you should feel bad Pandain. For shame. Yeah his case vs rayn much better. Go vote rayn! | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:02 justanothertownie wrote: There aren't that many people on to him right now. Besides there is time until the lynch. Meh. | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:03 VisceraEyes wrote: I think rayn is town...not voting rayn. Yeah, reasons were that he tunneled me and kept on me while nobody else wanted to lynch me so he was town. What about the rayn case vs JAT? How do you like that follow up? | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi if you are not willing to give your opinion on the current lynch candidates i will make fucking sure you will die. Then you know i am town. You have to wait till it is night for that. This time we lynch somebody. | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:09 yamato77 wrote: All Koshi has done this whole game is call Rayn mafia. Hey I also called you town. | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:17 yamato77 wrote: Because big games are a clusterfuck. I'm voting Cephiro, BTW. Out of all the lurky fucks who are useless, I think he's the one who could be much more useful if he was actually town. Is this a plynch? Is it COULD or WOULD | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:21 yamato77 wrote: Would implies knowing, I speak in hypothetical because that's literally the only way to play a game with limited information. would implies you know his meta. could implies you go for a crapshoot. Why would you go for a crapshoot? | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:24 VisceraEyes wrote: He has less than 1 page of content, like what do you want me to say? Yes so you vote Cephiro... | ||
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Fucking terrible plynch. Now please. Let's vote rayn. Who everybody knows is off. | ||
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Typical scum play. Jeez. So good. You people awesome scumhunters. grtz. | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:31 marvellosity wrote: Because you're such a maestro yourself? Give me a break. Nope, but I am not voting a plynch. | ||
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Am I voting for you for making a terrible case? | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:34 ObviousOne wrote: Is Koshi always such a whiner? it's spelled without the h and with an extra n. | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:35 marvellosity wrote: it's not a plynch, and the fact you're calling it one makes you shit. stop it. Yeah, because there is absolutely no1 voting ceph only because he could do better. | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:37 marvellosity wrote: You don't understand what a plynch is. Never mind. Thought for the moment - curious that LM chooses between Cephiro and FT, and does not choose the dude who made a peace out vote on him on Day 1, huh? Yes marv. Can you today think further yourself instead of asking an open question that you want to waste everybody his time on thinking about? So are you implying 1) LM is scum and wants to spare his scumbuddy Ceph 2) LM is scum and decided to just yolo vote without reading the thread 3) LM is town and decided to just yolo vote without reading the thread 4) LM is town because he doesn't even remember who votes for him Like which is it? Thank you for actually bringing the thread forward next time while you ask questions. | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:42 marvellosity wrote: Because I've done so little to move the thread forward today? You ignorant little shit. Yeah I thought you were onto something when you said JAT was scum, then rayn gave you a 1up. Then nothing happened and I was disappointed. Bad times. | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:43 justanothertownie wrote: Koshi I don't disagree but why so angry? Why not? | ||
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On September 26 2013 07:31 marvellosity wrote: Cheesecake, OO, and yam when you're around, and especially you cheesecake - you need to do some work, you're the only ones I trust right now to actually make good decisions and push good ideas. For the town. (I would say VE, but his comment on me was weird. meh) On September 26 2013 07:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Does Geript have a confirmed shot anywhere? I giggled. | ||
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On September 26 2013 07:31 marvellosity wrote: Cheesecake, OO, and yam when you're around, and especially you cheesecake - you need to do some work, you're the only ones I trust right now to actually make good decisions and push good ideas. For the town. (I would say VE, but his comment on me was weird. meh) On September 26 2013 07:38 ObviousOne wrote: VCA tonight, combining with my reads, I'll prep it and dump before daypost. Meanwhile, anyone have reasons that LM is NOT scum? | ||
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On September 26 2013 07:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: The thing is I'm so not confident as town. And if I want to lynch somebody for doing distinctly non-town things people are going to shout: "Town can do that too! He's just bad town! That's so obviously not-town oriented that scum would never do such a thing!" The problem is that they are probably right, and we end up with a mislynch. If I can't trust that characteristics associated with being mafia or being not-town are true, how on Earth can I push a correct lynch? LM is playing not-town. So therefore he should be mafia, am I missing something here? And Koshi, please fuck off kindly. You don't have a sense of humor. | ||
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Yeah, this is never going to happen. The part that TL will start playing better because we plynch. If you want TL mafia become better. You play a shitton more invitational games. The real cool games are 100% invitational. Like the next one from Sentinel. | ||
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The only guy that played scummy like fuck and obvious antitown that was actually scum was Alakaslam in Aperture. It was double lynch and he didn't get lynched while 2 scummers where bussing him. Now that is funny. | ||
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On September 26 2013 07:55 ObviousOne wrote: Me playing games to get better doesn't make any of the other 29 players play properly. Unless you mean for my sanity I should try to get into invitational games. For my sanity, I generally avoid large games. I signed up for this to try it again and, well, yeah. Less than pleased but not much I can do about it except yell and vote. No sorry. I meant that TL should host more invitational games and invite only people that played good in previous games. | ||
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Trow out the townreads. Because you are getting lynched. And it isn't going to get stopped unless you post everything you can. | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay Koshi has to be town. Obviously... | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:11 Cephiro wrote: People I have a strong townread on: DarthPunk -> strongandbig, ObviousOne, Mr.CC People I have a light townread on: yamato77, marv, Zaragon Ok not the worst at all. | ||
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No Cephiro. Should have posted after OO. | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:16 Cephiro wrote: I am not going to claim my role. It's sub-optimal for town. Why do you want me to roleclaim that badly? I don't want to wait till deadline. | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:26 justanothertownie wrote: I did not update this since a long time. You think he cares? | ||
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Tell me why you ask these questions. And what reply rayn could give if he is scum. | ||
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##vote: JAT I already don't give 2 fucks about what he pastes now. | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:36 justanothertownie wrote: Please tell me you are joking... Nope. I actually think both you and rayn are scum tbh. I breadcrumbed it in the rayn case. I am like that. | ||
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And seriously. Some colored names is not what I expected. Who the fuck does not add text? | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay JAT. nvm. Koshi get your vote off him. D: Ok but now I am off to bed. | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wouldn't it be funny if you had yourself as red there? wow, I was thinking the exact same thing. Really no kidding. Still voting you. And now I am really off to bed. | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:50 ObviousOne wrote: LOL good, Koshi's gone now we can spite lynch him. but is he? | ||
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On September 26 2013 08:56 iamperfection wrote: koshi you really gonna waste your vote on rayn? Ok. You get 2 votes if you tell me where to put it. I chechK in 1 more time after brushing teeth. | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:06 iamperfection wrote: am i your top town read or something or do you just not give a shit? ... far far from. Both. | ||
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I think it is that part that is strange. Cuz everyboody claims alignment. Also he claims a role without claiming a role and he knows it. But w.e. | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: One of Cephiro and LM is scum. And if Cephiro is town, this mysterious man... Why is that? Marv says both. | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Then why aren't you voting Cephiro off the island? Hmm did I prove cephiro is scum without knowing? | ||
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Gn all. 4.realzies. | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: You know? I have no idea at all. Scum are probably laughing their asses off. Scumslip | ||
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Rayn, Cheesecake, Mocsta Peasants are between: Malongo, JAT, FT, Risen, Umasi, Sentinel, Cephiro, Stutters, geript, VE and then some others I forgot. So, stop going for crapshoots and lynch the first 3. Thank you. Peasants will become obvious after we lynched the certain scums. | ||
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On September 26 2013 20:35 marvellosity wrote: Koshi, you think all those 3 are mafia? Or there are mafia between them? or what? Yeah they are all 3 scum. Vigs, shoot Cephiro and rayn. Just shoot both. | ||
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On September 26 2013 20:39 marvellosity wrote: Pretty sure they aren't all mafia. Can you talk to me about rayn in a fashion that I'll understand? Do you not buy his "i play differently in large games" thing? You think Mocsta pulled all that shit as mafia? Mocsta is pulling shit all game. Claiming doc to get LM lynched is in line with the start of his game. Rayn. He doesn't play different in large games. Didn't you see his tunnel on me. That is exactly like in minis. Except it wasn't. CC. Fuck the little fucker if he isn't blue or red. Read his posts. Pure evil. | ||
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On September 26 2013 20:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi seriously. I am getting very frustrated with you. You even YOURSELF said the case was justified. You were playing very fucking differently than you play as town. And you know it. Now, if you are town, look at this from my perspective. Wtf am i supposed to do? Am i supposed to call you town just because? Why? I thought you were scum. Then you upped your play on N1, now you are back to this tunnel shit because of no fucking reason. Are you scum, for real? I could see you doing this as scum. Play purposely like shit just to justify your tunnel on me after that the whole fucking game and you look good for strong townies because you are not afraid to attack me. Stop this fucking bullshit and make a decent case if you think i am scum. Otherwise i will lynch you, because if you do not make a case or stop it you are scum. I think you are scum. I can't make a case in which suddenly everybody will see you as scum. I can only repeat that you are scum. Would suck if you aren't. I will probably repeat that you are scum for a very long time. Should bother you, but try to not let it bother you too much. | ||
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On September 26 2013 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is what Koshi looks like to me in this game: D1 start. Fucking clueless as mafia. Then he gets accused. Then this happens (from GoT scum QT): + Show Spoiler + raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:20 PM ET (US) You can accuse fellow mafians if you have a "good" reason to. We are good enough to defend ourselves. Just do not make an idiot out of yourself by stupid stuff, that gets you policy lynched. For example, if there is anything that contradicts with your mindset in me, ask me questions. Be aggressive towards me. I do not mind, i can defend myself. You need to interact with your scumbuddies aswell, because we will lose member(s) at some point and you look terrible if you do not talk about your scumbuddies at all. Especially now when you are "under attack", even if you make a case on scum, you have no credit. There is no harm, IF YOUR CASE IS BELIEVEABLE from town pov. It does not have to be right, it has to be so that you look town. If you dunno how to do that, attack suspicious townies instead. :D 126 raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:15 PM ET (US) Do not afk. That´s the worst thing you can do. I´m gonna push a lynch on a lurker if necessay (FT, Risen looks really bad, nachodude, Sharrant, etc.) Just remember this: Keep track of where your town!mind is. What are your "intentions", who do you think is mafia, what has your game plan been, who does oppose your game plan and "what that might mean". You are ok if you follow these things, whether or not you are right. 125 Koshi 08-08-2013 06:08 PM ET (US) How do I enter the thread now? Or do I keep afk? 124 Koshi 08-08-2013 06:07 PM ET (US) Ok, then I hold it back for when people ask me questions. I can trow Clarity under the bus at the same time because he soft defended OAts twice already and FoS me with a silly reason. 123 raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:05 PM ET (US) TLDR; It does not matter who you accuse, but keep your story straight. 122 raynpelikoneet 08-08-2013 06:04 PM ET (US) I dunno. Seems like a forced case to me (going MIA is not a scumtell). Keeping house names secret might be, if you can convince other people that is the right thing to do (revealing them), how did you act on th ebeginning regarding that? Did you immediately reveal house names? If you didn´t, why is Oats scum because of that for you? Having no scumreads and living happily ever after in his house might be scummy, it also might be that he genuinely thought everyone is town. How do you "prove" that? Make a case if you think it´s gonna be good enough, but think about what you say. 121 Koshi 08-08-2013 05:58 PM ET (US) Could I make a case around Oats? Or do people see him as town? He is asleep atm so he can't retaliate for a couple of hours. My case would be around the fact that in the first 6 hours he prevented scumhunting by trying to keep house names a secret, while when I tried to create a better atmosphere to scumhunt he shot me down asking silly questions (page 20 pages long when there were only 6 pages) or him blaming me for having no scumreads while he was only sharing townreads based on "friendly and shit". When SnB came in saying that there were some problems in their House, Oats suddenly went MIA. Except that now he does not need anyone to tell that because i even put that in thread for DP on D1. What does Koshi do? This: + Show Spoiler + On August 12 2013 22:21 Koshi wrote: If I ever host a game it will have a minimum 10 posts a day rule. Or maybe next game I play in I will start a policy that you need to make 10 posts a day otherwise you get lynched. If you are town and you don't post 10 times you just fail at life and at this game. Always the same people talking and I can't read any of them, except give them a town read... EXCEPT I have such a problem with this post. Like which stupid vigi is going to use his shot on a guy that has almost no hp? 6 Lords should have killed gumshoe and if gumshoe was still alive at the end of the day he should have been checked by a Lord on n2. Or even n1 like iamp did but then it is VERY suspicious that after the 1 hp check on gumshoe, gumshoe dies. The chance that scum spent a part or all their KP on is 0%. The only reason scum would target gum is if they knew he was blue or they knew he had 1 hp and gambled blue. So if there was a vigi he would have shot a target on the list but not the first 2 because his shot could be less effective. I think iamp is scum. Just because of this post and the fact he used the hp check. If iamp is not scum there is scum hiding in his House and I do not see how iamp does not see this. On top of that the whole FTofu lynch felt wrong. Just like FTofu said, there were worse lurkers than him, or atleast equally worse. There was no case on FT except "the wagon of justice is here yabababababa." Then the vote on yamato from iamp was without case as well. I (Koshi) completely would have also voted yamato after a redclaim obviously but I wouldn't have shot down Oats trying to talk about it. Or at least give some sort of argument to Oats why Yamato is scum except for the redcheck. yamato could be scum in iamp his will. While the explanation to why he is scum also has a townread in it. In iamp his last will Vivax is his strongest scumread. While Vivax has been iamps strongest scumread this entire game, iamp has decided during the lynch only Vivax should be spared and FT should be lynched. The scumreason for this is if you get a town Vivax lynched you look extremely scummy, while discrediting Vivax the entire game till somebody else lynches him is way better. Also, I am a townread from iamp. That's all friendly and shit but why do I get a feeling I am getting set up for gettting lynched when it is lylo/mylo. Just like last game... PS: the friendly and shit is a *wink* at Oats who I now consider town if yamato flips scum. If Yamato flips towns this was all for nothing and Oats can be lynched. He makes a conspiracy theory that is so stupid everyone thinks he is clueless town and genuinely believes in that. He sticks with it until iamp dies but the townread stays after that. This is EXACTLY what Koshi is doing this game. Except that he has no case, BECAUSE HE CAN'T MAKE A FUCKING CASE! :D Nha. | ||
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On September 26 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: wtf is this? Are you tunneling me because you don't wanna get shot? Is that what you are saying? weak man.. really weak. No. That's not it. Anyway, the case on you is more like I count everything you post and divide it with the rayn scumhunting drived posts. The number I get then is higher than in other games of you. Aperture not included. But there you had that pokemon role, dnu if it has something to do with it but w.e. Fact is Aperture was an anomaly. So dnu how you put that in a case. It's a total package. So I am just yelling you are scum till others see it. | ||
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Was on the 2 targets that weren't lynched and weren't blue. Told you guys to lynch VA and not shoot him. Totes right to doc yamato/BH. Poor WoS. I read his filter already a bit. Need to read more. Didn't find something like his awesome Grack read in Golden Sun. But didn't read the last pages yet. Who knows I might find a gem. Anyway. I just keep being awesome. If I start making cases I would be too awesome to contain. | ||
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On September 26 2013 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: And what is this: That's an odd thing to say. Why are you proud of being on a target that was not lynched? Proud on being not on a target that was blue. It's sad that I am not on the target that get lynched, but I was on the second wagon twice. I can't vote for all the other kids. And if people are not voting on a wagon because I am on that wagon, rofl. | ||
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On September 26 2013 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah you should start making cases. I still dislike your D1 vote and want you to explain it. You voted for a guy you didn't even think is mafia. How was that good? Just like yesterday I felt like it was a better choice than the other wagon. It's going to be really difficult to tell me different. | ||
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On September 26 2013 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your mindset is already really fishy. The way you present what i quoted screams "at least i didn't mislynch a blue". You don't say if people were scum/bad - people who actually were on that wagon. You cast doubt on people who were on a mislynch(es) but you are not telling clearly what that means. At the same time you excuse yourself from taking responsibility of any lynch. That's really scummy Koshi. On top of that, you still voted for a guy you didn't think is scum on D1. And you have yet to explain that vote. What I say is simple rayn. +-20 votes were on blues, I didn't made a single vote of that. I am saying that makes me awesome, it makes the people who voted on the blues less awesome. I already said the scumteam is rayn mocsta CC Nothing to do with votes etc etc. But I am going to let you kids argue. Need to do work now that I am back in Belgium. | ||
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On September 26 2013 22:43 Mocsta wrote: well, you and marv are waving ya dicks around like cephiro *IS* scum; so the parts before the claim is valid as I outlined. rayn did that? | ||
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After the flip I think you made a 1 liner claiming that indeed. Before the flip nha. 1upping yamato and begging marv you could lynch Cephiro is not even remotely doing that. We were too busy seeing grack trying to ctrl+b his reads in excel. good fun. | ||
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On September 26 2013 23:29 strongandbig wrote: Nah I still like the case. I just can't decide if your fakeclaim makes you scum, or if we should policy lynch you, or if we should let you live. Like, I kind of see what Marv is thinking about needing to policy lynch you to guarantee the integrity of mafia as a game. Look at grack last game, he was scum and made a retarded fakeclaim (less egregious than this one tho) which got oeople to say "only townies would make this stupid a fakeclaim". But otoh I really want to kill cephiro. Nha, it was the fact he added fake timestamps to his fakeclaim in a game that roles were allowed to be posted. This is something completely different. | ||
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Some people reacted totally different. Believed Mocsta without considering this. Umasi pops to mind. Any1 else noticed? Didnt reread yet. Just popped in my mind. You guys believed Mocsta? | ||
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People that look good to Mocsta claim. Deconduo, VE (both knew that there was something wrong to an extend) People that look like shit to Mocsta claim: CC, Umasi (watching a trainwreck as a spectator) Look at this On September 26 2013 10:52 Mocsta wrote: Its real Its why i said hes goign to get shot (or RB'd is prob wiser) in the end, hes completely useless VT now.. it wasnt required. And then CC his reply to this Mocsta message: On September 26 2013 10:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Or he's trying to out a doctor, and trying to switch the vote onto Cephiro. FUCK! no mention of yam at ALL in his filter either. FUUUUUUUCK Here CC knows what Mocsta doesn't know, that there is no breadcrumb. Ofc CC isn't as retarded as Mocsta so he just plants the idea in the thread. Mocsta takes this idea and decides to do this: On September 26 2013 10:57 Mocsta wrote: OK. I DOC'D YAM everyone, pile onto lonemeow. Like CC should now it is fake, or at least something is funny, but this is how he replies: On September 26 2013 10:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: DAMNIT MOCSTA On September 26 2013 10:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: LOL IN B4 BOTH DOCS DOCCED YAM LOL The last message is in line with CC his posting this game. Remember when I said scumslip before I went to bed. CC is an arrogant bastard this game that is just commenting this game in scum perspective. Here he does it again. I really wonder if he is scum tbh, because he thinks exactly how a scummer would think. omg 2 blue roles, because they are both not red for sure. | ||
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On September 26 2013 11:07 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: You have somebody knew to hate, iamp <3 Also we shouldn't be talking. This how it continuous, Everybody is mad. CC is posting smiley faces and went to a new subject... | ||
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On September 27 2013 01:09 marvellosity wrote: You see that all assumes your interpretation is right I thought decon looked bad because he was *too* calm. Maybe he just didn't get sucked in? Dunno. I wish decon would get more involved Yeah, but decon acts normally. Don't forget this all happens in less than 10 minutes. Decon reads claim. Decon wants to move off LM. Decon reads counterclaim. Decon is sceptical and asks if there is a breadcrumb + says this might look like a troll Mocsta thing. Nothing wrong there. CC is the first to be sceptical of claim of LM, knew there is no breadcrumb really fast. (3 mins) CC isn't sceptical of claim of Mocsta. CC starts thinking about 2 docs. Umasi delurks and instant quotes the 2 docs idea. (dat f5 skill)(4 messages in same minute were posted, it must really have been instant quote.) (So both of those fuckers instantly think about 2 docs over anything else) Pandain reaction is normal. | ||
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Is CC always a little fucker as town? Because now I am certain that he is a little fucker if he is town. Look at those posts: "I am certain 1 of the wagons are scum" "Scums must be laughing their ass off" (because both aren't scum) "Both are scum" "Both are not scum" On September 26 2013 09:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: One of Cephiro and LM is scum. And if Cephiro is town, this mysterious man... On September 26 2013 09:46 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: You know? I have no idea at all. Scum are probably laughing their asses off. On September 26 2013 09:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Moc is on the right track. Let's do this shit. Vote for Dec / Zara / Ceph / LM DO THIS SHIT On September 26 2013 10:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I'm getting the feeling that both of these guys are town and scum dont give a fuck where the vote lands. | ||
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On September 27 2013 01:39 marvellosity wrote: You'd imagine mafia would be at least a little more consistent, wouldn't you? Yep. So I ask. Is he a little fucker as town? | ||
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On September 27 2013 01:43 justanothertownie wrote: Well how do you find out he is scum then? Or is he protown as scum? Read Aperture. He was scum there. | ||
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WoS gave CC a townread On September 24 2013 02:23 WaveofShadow wrote: lol Mocsta that post regarding yamato...honetsly since playing voice with him I have more respect for this play than I did before, and I don't find him to be a dick at all. Another random though: CC is probs town---he's way too lazy as fuck to be scum. D: | ||
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On September 27 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi, for this phase. Please. Let go of me, only for this phase, you look fucking town now when you discuss other things. Let's scumhunt together. This night? ok? Sure thing. | ||
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On September 27 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mr.CC. What's your read on him? Thought he was mafia spewing sarcastic reads in this thread while making sensible post in the scum QT. But I went back on that. I played with him in Aperture and now I see he is completely 100% fail as town. Recently he just said that he actually enjoys playing scum more than playing town. silly guy. On September 23 2013 23:01 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Vigilantes should shoot from Zaragon, LoneMeow, and Sentinel. I don't think FT will flip scum, but maybe someone wants to vig him for vote analogous reasons. Zaragon is constantly playing the noob card time and time again, and his posts are a lot of fluff with not much content. He is semi-lurking and appears to be contributing when not doing much of anything. LoneMeow for obvious reasons. Lurking, being scummy day 1, and then martyring. Prime vig food. Sentinel did that giant post that voted Coag, not too bad, but the "These are the people that haven't done anything" part was scummy as balls. Apparently he also flipped his read on Ray. Pandain might also be a good target because his D1 megapost was super wrong and misinterpreted a ton of information in the thread. OO is most likely town and I'm 100% town. If Pandain is town, he would have come to a different conclusion imo. Also, I'm butthurt about him calling me mafia. I don't even care about Rayn/Marv/Koshi/DP/geript atm until I see the night kills. I'm barely skimming over their posts because everything just seems to go in a circle of accusation. I'll just say that DP is almost certainly town and should not be a vig target (geript...). I'd even go so far as to say, doc him. On September 25 2013 06:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Not so much useless as not posting at all. There's a difference, if you want to get into that sort of thing. Regardless, I am indeed town and would thoroughly enjoy lynching scum today. Have a handful of townreads that I'm fairly confident on. I'm OK with lynching Sent / LM / Pandain / Zaragon.... mayyyyyybe FT. This doesn't scream the confidence CC had while defending all his scumbuddies in aperture. Or himself. | ||
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On September 27 2013 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: No what? CC bussed his teammates in Aperture. Look at his shit at Stutters. what? Stutters? | ||
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On September 27 2013 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah he says "stutters scum" "stutters scum (lol)" "stutters made good posts, town" (no reasoning given). So? Same shit as with LM / Ceph? That's why I give him a townread. | ||
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On September 27 2013 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because he is wishy-washy on lynch targets? Cuz he doesn't know shit. On September 05 2013 03:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Town should 100% lynch the following. Especially the first 2. If felkyr is indeed red kill Cakepie. If Slam is red dont kill austin, but kill Mr. Z instead. Alakaslam - LYNCH WITH FIRE. LOOK AT THE VOTES. KILL HIM. Felkyr - ALSO MAFIA. STOP GIVING HIM A FREE PASS CUS NOOB. DIDN'T VOTE FOR SLAM. KILL. Cakepie - Don't like his name, wish washy on Felkyr. Less sure than the 2 above, but I hate his pressure on Hiropro where he screams OMGUS. Mr.Z/Austin - last minute ninja votes. people to watch out for: Debears OO Hiro SnB Oats - consider lynching Randombum - consider lynching @Stutters I like bunnies. A lot. And he doesn't try to save his scumbuddies. | ||
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CC defending Mocsta 24/7: On September 22 2013 01:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Again out of the actives, I don't know how to read Mocsta so I'm going to assume town. WoS is leaning scum for me considering that "Why are you making yourself a good shot for scum, DP" post. I feel fucking great and accomplished when shot N1--and it's good for a townie to make themselves obvtown and scumhunt so they 1) are an obv medic save, hopefully scum will waste a KP on him and 2) they are obvtown to the townies who want to find scum by process of elimination. I'll wait for an explanation on that --- WoS has rolled survivor in the last two games so reading him is a bit wonky. On September 22 2013 01:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: As I went to the voting thread I noticed LoneMeow voted Pandain. So I found his filter. These posts feel scummy. LoneMeow places an easy vote on Pandain, and condemns Mocsta for jumping on Pandain early. LM states that looking for someone to jump on doesn't feel very townie, but LM himself jumps on Pandain. "I'm suspicious of you, but not enough to say I have a scum read" --- it feels pretty sticky to me. On September 22 2013 02:07 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: For the record, LoneMeow, I do not think anything unjustified came from Mocasta concerning Pandain. He wanted him to post. Being there 5 mins pregame and not wanting to say hello is scummy because they don't want to be called out. Mocstas target is "easy" persay, but I think along the lines of Mocsta when it comes to dudes like Pandain. Ok CC is back on the table. | ||
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On September 27 2013 03:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: no i think Sentinel is scum too. Just not in top 6. K then you are not reading the game or Sentinel is bussing 24/7. Something you should know because you follow similar thoughts on the inactives. rofl. | ||
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On September 27 2013 03:29 Stutters695 wrote: Anyone want to lynch Rayn with me? Seems like he's going for an easy mislynch with me and I don't like his scum list. When he's pushed me in the past he's always had good reasons and I don't see that here. First Mocsta than rayn. | ||
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On September 27 2013 06:14 Stutters695 wrote: And if Ceph happens to be town, Moc is probably just being his terrible self where he gets crazy ideas. Pretty sure Mocsta is scum in all the scenarios. | ||
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It's a bit pathetic at this point. | ||
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On September 27 2013 06:55 marvellosity wrote: How are people feeling about jat right now? And why? Are we still writing kush off as probable town? Do players like VE have opinions on iamp? If not, why not? town, cuz from time to time he says good shit. He asked for replacement. Dnu, sounds like town thing to do for kush. Who is like VE? | ||
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doc: marv vigi: mocsta/cephiro scum: rayn, mocsta | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:51 Mocsta wrote: This is such a poorly timed claim. You werent going to be lynched, as you had a 2 vote lead.. hence you needed 3 new votes. now your dead end of night.. well done. | ||
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But you can be scum CC. The only reason I am against it is because marv talked me out of it. | ||
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On September 28 2013 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Interesting. It's also interesting that Koshi only contributes during night phases.. Rofl. Plz explain why. | ||
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Tomorrow will be as easy as yesterday. Pile votes on Mocsta and see a red flip. | ||
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If you want a lynch for day 5. Its rayn. I am somewhat amazed by my own reads this game. I am quite awesome. | ||
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Town Mocsta is quite awesome and makes 29 cases. It's Koshi guarantee scum. (Thats not marv guarantee level) | ||
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day 2 Mocsta didn't develop his reads and did doctor thingie. day 3 Mocsta showed effort. Total random shit tough. and CC scum is wrong but scummers are pushing that. GoT Mocsta replaced read thread, made reads, not the best reads but good reads nailed 1 scum nobody else saw, played 24 hours and changed his reads and got 3/4 scums right. Sicilian Mocsta replaced Day 6 or something and out the entire thread pointed out the 1 scumslip post Kush made, the same post Ver used in his analysis. From now on this goes in all my post during the night so you people don't forget. + Show Spoiler + Lynch Mocsta day 4, lynch rayn day 5 #scummersmustdie2013 | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Lynch Mocsta day 4, lynch rayn day 5 #scummersmustdie2013 | ||
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Pretty sure that is frowned upon. And Pandain made some big posts in this game. Maybe you tell us why he is scum from his posts in this game. + Show Spoiler + Lynch Mocsta day 4, lynch rayn day 5 #scummersmustdie2013 | ||
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Also wtf goons lol. They were not in the OP. Does this mean we are only going to have a few blue roles and we decided to lynch them. Also gg blue roles rofl. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Lynch Mocsta day 4, lynch rayn day 5 #scummersmustdie2013 | ||
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Oo. You just ask random questions then? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Lynch Mocsta day 4, lynch rayn day 5 #scummersmustdie2013 | ||
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JAT if you believe that. Tell me which scumreads Mocsta had Day 1, and how he followed up on those during Night 1, Day2,... and further. Tell me which new scumreads Mocsta had Day 2, and how he followed up on those during Night 2,.. and further. Tell me which new scumreads Mocsta had Day 3, and how he followed up on those during Night 3,.. and further. If it is a good case, you will probably save Mocsta. Mocsta can do the same tbh. But would be more awesome if JAT did it. So Mocsta, please give JAT a chance to do it. I know he wants to prove himself. + Show Spoiler + Lynch Mocsta day 4, lynch rayn day 5 #scummersmustdie2013 | ||
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On September 30 2013 00:02 justanothertownie wrote: I won't defend Mocsta - that's his job. I don't need to prove myself in the slightest. I will try to analyse the game today and find scum not defend someone I am unsure about. Tss. But you feel Mocsta had reads and tried to follow up on these reads through the game? | ||
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Lets take a look at 1 of the interaction from Mocsta. D1: I love you rayn. rayn, is Koshi scum he attacks me but I am not sure though. Oh yeah Koshi totes scum thank you for showing this rayn. I love you so much rayn. You so town. N1: Hi rayn. Yeah everything is good with me. Also everything ok with you? D2: Are we still buds rayn? Yeah, the love is a bit gone now. Dnu why. N2: Why do you say I am scum rayn? You are scummy! D3: Pff let's ignore rayn and let me make 2 scumcases and a towncase on some random dudes. N3: rayn is on my shitpile. ^ That's exactly how it went. | ||
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Tomorrow I ll find our lynch. Mocsta/rayn/VE/Risen all energy on those 4 people. FT feels like crapshoot atm.... but he can be 5 target. Just use all available time on those. I'll look into all. But I know I prefer Mocsta for tomorrow. | ||
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##vote: Mocsta 1) yay scumteam is laughing with us... 2) wtf geript. 3) CC is going to be town. It was btw clearly a joke... Risen/Mocsta/VE are the targets. I will trow rayn off the table for today, he totes scum though. All my energy will go to these 3. | ||
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Hosts kinda fucked town over day 1 with the shortened time Town is losing this I cannot believe hosts are now going to give scum a night 3 replacement. + a town replacement in n3 can be shot. ---> Kita is town. Maybe it's lame but seriously, hosts are not going to swap a scummer n3 in this game. | ||
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These filters are also such a pain to read without knowing any flips except Cephiro. Who you saved rofl.... | ||
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Pff. You see where I am atm? How can I not see you as scum? | ||
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On September 30 2013 21:48 kitaman27 wrote: Breaking Bad kinda ruined any plans of catch up last night, but I'm now up to page 200 so I'll be sure to finish and post thoughts this morning. This is really sketchy reasoning for knowing that I'm town. At first I thought you might be a parity cop or something with your weird instance that I was town, but now that you're trying to explain it with this makes it seem as if you're trying to buddy up with me or something. I will definitely need to tackle your filter. I don't know you are town, silly. I say it is logical because hosts aren't going to replace a scummer on N3 in this game. | ||
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On September 30 2013 22:46 ObviousOne wrote: Hosts don't fuck with games by selectively replacing town or scum. If they did they wouldn't be allowed to host for long. Replacing or attempting to is a neutral affair. Your argument is just dumb. Yeah sure. Because Ver totally didn't replace town D6 into Sicilian because town had modkills before... w.e I see kita as town just for this reason, you can disagree. | ||
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On October 01 2013 05:01 Pandain wrote: I could honestly entertain Koshi lynch mega lurking when he never does late game; he usually has good logic but is no where to be found I am quite smart indeed. But yeah. Dnu my gamesense is lacking here. But you people are fucking everywhere. I am just praying that Mocsta, rayn are scummers and then there is some sort of redeeming part about me this game. Otherwise it is pretty sad indeed. | ||
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Like VE & CC are both townreads to me. Risen. dnu. The guy was on FT while everybody was on LM or Cephiro... Like wtf. Mocsta. It's just supersad that he is not getting lynched. I told you people that only for his never developing reads and the doc claim you should lynch him. But if you don't, you don't. | ||
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rayn, Mocsta, Firmtofu, Sentinel and Decondou for endgame kred. Risen and Stutters are contenders but really who knows... And I think they should have been lynched in that order. | ||
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Titanic: Pretty good play by FT. Good filter/good everything. Scum GoT. 2 page filter with pregame banter. Town. Persona: FT didn't bother too much. But it was okish. Decent filter. Scum Desert: Didn't follow it closely but it was really bad right? he had 1 page filter. Town Seems like more tryhard as scum. 8 pages here. Remember how I told you rayn voted CR without good reasoning over FT? Yeah... | ||
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Why put decon in my scumteam when he can be disappointing townie. | ||
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On October 01 2013 06:29 Pandain wrote: Koshi can you explain that? What? That they are not getting lynched? You believe they will? Votes keep piling on VE and Mocsta.... | ||
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And DP Mafia makes peepz mad. | ||
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##unvote ##vote FirmTofu | ||
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But it's cool. I'll vote anybody on my list. If we lynch town scum has at least 7 nk in future nights. Seems like all blues vanished. Or we had only 1 of each. Well at least the doc got a save. | ||
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On October 02 2013 04:09 Pandain wrote: Because I never really looked into him. This isn't strange timing and I'm so confused by the accusation. Ofc it is. You could have said this way earlier. Why start a start a new wagon now... meh. As if all the current wagons don't contain scum. | ||
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rofl. | ||
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On October 02 2013 04:16 kitaman27 wrote: Koshi, you going to move over to iamp with me? Sure. He is on my list. Now I remember why Risen is on my scumlist. Dnu, I still dislike him more than Pandain. Risen is scum. Ignore last transaction. | ||
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On October 02 2013 04:21 FirmTofu wrote: Koshi, can you please respond to my earlier post? Why are you voting me? Because you are scum with rayn, Moscsta, Risen and iamp. | ||
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On October 02 2013 04:40 Pandain wrote: Why? Have you played with him? He's pretty good as town, he's an old school vet. Nope. It doesn't make sense he plays so silly as both alignments. | ||
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On October 02 2013 13:33 ObviousOne wrote: 3 red scum, 3 orange pick 2 for scum #yolo I like this one. | ||
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After the disaster that was D1 lynch, I don't see the hosts replacing a scummer N3. They replaced modconfirmed townie that scum could insta shoot if they want. | ||
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But it's enough to see him as town. At least for me. | ||
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Tis true. | ||
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I reread my role pm and I am not a medic. | ||
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Fucking rayn is so obvious scum :D Have been saying it since 2012 or whenever this game started | ||
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On October 03 2013 23:30 kitaman27 wrote: I'd like to mention that I'm also medic, but I determined that none of you guys were worth saving. +1 | ||
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On October 04 2013 00:55 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, everyone is a medic. We good now? If decondou is the real medic he is an idiot. I want to lynch rayn today. ^ best guy in the thread. | ||
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We wait and see. | ||
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wolves kill sheep. sheep says baahhhhhhhhh. sheep will not run. sheep just looks at the slaughter. and it keeps saying baahhhhh. | ||
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You still the scummer though! | ||
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I wonder if he is a fastwalking or slowwalking zombie. | ||
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On October 04 2013 03:13 kitaman27 wrote: It's too bad he's not going to find any braaains in this game. rofl You deserve to win this game. | ||
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On October 04 2013 04:46 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah... and I hope you are scum koshi because I am really pissed about your play if you are town. D: I had an offday. | ||
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rofl, then I was right and Mocsta + rayn are confirmed scummers. So Mocsta, rayn, decon, FT and Sentinel. JAT would be possible tbh. He is sneaky. | ||
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On October 05 2013 00:57 Stutters695 wrote: He became significantly more interested in the game when it is essentially over barring some miraculous save and a 5/5 successful lynch. His question about surrender is incredibly unnatural considering his next post is so tryhard and there really is no true hint undertones of disappointment. I see it as him faking that surrender to come off as more town. Now there is no reason to do this without a scum PR because he could play exactly like he was and he wouldn't be lynched over Decon or myself. However with the significant increase in the scumminess of his posting, if he is the RBer he might have been afraid of a wagon forming on him since us hitting the RBer is the only way scum will lose now. Yes it is based on assumptions, however as far as I'm concerned he is confirmed scum from how he handled the iamp lynch and there is no reason he needed to make a move unless he was the essential member of the scum team for their endgame. That said if I can't get traction on this, Decon is my next choice because there is the possibility he is the RBer since his medic claim was out of necessity, so he wouldn't have a choice but to take that risk. See. I would expect rayn to make posts like this. Spread out in many post obviously. But instead rayn is all like: "GUIS WE NEED CC NOAAAAAWWWWWW. | ||
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