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On September 23 2013 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Well frankly because I can see a town Koshi doing that same thing. That's not alignment indicative to me. Yamato would/should be pushing for his strongest scum lynch right now and he's not and I do NOT expect a town yamato to do that same thing. What you say about Koshi is not right. I mean, i find yamato scummy for that post and for what i said later on, but i want to wait for him to post more before making a final judgement on him. I don't think he is as scummy as Koshi is. Could you elaborate more on this Koshi thing, what makes you think he could do that as town? Can you show me some proof of it? | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:02 Umasi wrote: Because I think he's town. Chairmans just pretty good lynchbait he certainly was last game, and his play so far has evoked an identical feel. on another note, find it annoying how you're like 'umasi hasn't talked enough about the important things in the thread' and then ask me about two one liners. kinda wacky, but I have a town read on you. idk about FT, slightly scummy for me, because of how contrived his pressure on DP felt for a silly reason thank god your thoughts on me basically are 'if he's red, man we have some things to go on' and 'he hasn't talked about important things!' Lynching for information is something I'm a firm disbeliever of, I think it's frequently a scum tool fwiw, I told you guys I'd respond to questions you had for me (and the only one I've seen is mocsta's) mocsta kinda grouped us together as non-contributing-flying-under-the-radar dudes iirc, so you suddenly voting me with THAT shit reasoning is why I'm voting you, because it feels you're like 'quick target the other dude who's in a similar position to me' also there's a vote thread, use it ##vote sentinel This vote is really bad. It's basically an OMGUS with completely twisting Sentinel's case around. That's exactly how i felt when you unvoted LoneMeow. | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:06 Risen wrote: Didn't even see the question. Don't know, seems ok to me. He wasn't in my last game so he really only knows my play from a long time ago, I'm not holding his push on me against him. Football and magic prerelease today. Okay so, you called me out for "defending VA and Coag". Marv did the exact same thing, at the exact same time. Why is he a townread for you and i am (am i?) a scumread for you? | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:15 Coagulation wrote: ok so apparently theres no dirt on ve and thats pretty good cause hes clearly town. yamato threw some dirt on VE along with JAT. That's what i remember. What are you referring to? | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:24 Umasi wrote: Well, let's work through this a bit I'm town, so when I read the thread and see someone who (according to mocsta (who I've kinda considered an influential townie)) occupies a similar position within the thread as me is immediately voting me for that reason, when he's done exactly the same thing? Why IS he voting me instead of someone else in the thread? Specifically, why did he choose me to vote gah I'm not phrasing this very well. basically why am I scummier to him than other people in the thread is my question. also, how is this similar to me unvoting lonemeow, that it's bad play or that it's scum? regardless, I don't think I twisted what he said, I tried to read into what he said. But that's not at all what you said in your last post... | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:31 Risen wrote: He's done more than defend people. He attacked people and give short, concise reasoning for doing so. Yeah but i did not defend anyone. I questioned votes, i never said VA/Coag is town. Is my play somehow scummier than marv's at this point? Why? Do you know how marv operates as scum compared to what he does as town? | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:36 Umasi wrote: if it was what I'd said in my last post, why would I bother saying it? I was expanding on it since you seemed to want expansion on the topic. Ehh.. I called out your reasoning for your vote. Instead of defending your reasoning for the vote you give new/different reasoning for it. Why did you not write that in the first place if that makes him scum? | ||
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Also do you still think VA is scum? | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:45 Umasi wrote: dunno, because I'm bad I guess. Is the reasoning flawed? (because I obviously don't think it is) Your first reasoning was, the latter is not. That's what bothers me in you. | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:47 Umasi wrote: okay. idk if I can help explain it more :| so do you think sentinel is town then? I do not have a town read on him. I think i have said it before. I dunno how he plays as town but if he continues posting as he has, and does not answer you he is a good lynch. Only thing that looks good to me on him was what he said about you regarding LoneMeow, because that was exactly what i thought when you unvoted him. Why did you unvote him btw? Why not continue pressure on him? | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:48 Koshi wrote: 1) I asked if it was similar. imo it is very similar. I will vote for the Stray Kitten, but I am looking into yamato atm. First opinion he is not scum. 2) I never thought VA is scum. You still don't get what I was trying to do? On (2), no, i do not get it. Explain it to me please. | ||
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On September 23 2013 03:53 Koshi wrote: VA is proud about 2 things. 1) he always plays a different style. 2) he doesn't get misslynched as town. Obviously he is doing 1) again, but by piling votes on him he is forced to give out stronger reads / break character to make sure 2) doesn't happen. If he would have continued doing nothing he was probably scum. So why did you not push more votes on him instead of giving up when someone disagrees with you? You got Pandain to vote with you, why is it impossible for you to push your agenda if i disagree with you? That's not town!Koshi'y. On September 23 2013 03:54 Umasi wrote: Well I understand what you're saying rayn, I just don't know how I can help you figure it out *shrugs* I read his vote, went 'this is kinda scummy' then thought about why it was scummy. I expanded on the first point in the second post, as much as to explain to you guys what it was scummy as well as to figure out myself if it actually was. *shrug* if this isn't enough of an explanation go talk to other people in the thread about it I guess Yeah your explanation is enough for me atm. | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:08 Koshi wrote: I wasn't home and enough people already said that it wasn't going to happen. So nha. Who did say that? Me, marv and Mocsta. One of those guys is a dude you had a scumread on. Why can't we be scum defending Vayne? Do you think we were being reasonable? | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:15 Koshi wrote: Pretty sure enough time passed that it wasn't going to happen. It would also look extremely bad if I kept hammering on it. So nha, it wasn't going to happen. Don't be silly, you know it as well. Since when have you been concerned about looking bad as town? I am confused now. Why did you even start that shit in the first place as the outcomes are: 1) Vayne gives no shits about your vote and that doesn't tell anything about him 2) Vayne breaks his character, does that make him town? 3) You end up looking bad when people disagree with you | ||
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##Unvote: ##Vote: LoneMeow | ||
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On September 23 2013 04:39 LoneMeow wrote: How am I supposed to do that when I have no reads and no thread presence? ##Unvote: Okay look. LoneMeow. If you are town you want to convince people someone is mafia and lynch them. If you can't do that, you gotta place your vote on one of the cases and explain why that case is the best (better than others). Voting for yourself serves no purpose because if you are town that vote is definitely not on scum. You do not want to look like a complete idiot who has no credibility and no clue what's going on at the moment. Being wrong is not scummy. But you definitely do not want to say "i wanna lynch this guy but i am probably wrong". If you are voting for Umasi (or anyone) and they are scum they already know you are not confident in your vote and you are easily swayed to somewhere else. Of course you can't know if you are right or wrong, especially on D1. This looks really bad because in case you are town your vote is on the only person you know is definitely town atm. So cut the martyring, find your best lynch and start playing instead of this bullcrap. Please. Noone is a god in this game, you can find mafia aswell as anyone in this game. ##Vote: Koshi Back to the original. You still have not done anything to make me think you are town. | ||
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