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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 25 2013 02:20 GMT
#3182
EBWOP That is to say I will look at him when I wake up, currently I'm going to bed.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 25 2013 14:53 GMT
#3424
Overslept, phone posting to answer some questions and catch up on thread:

On September 25 2013 14:35 Mocsta wrote:
Well.. give stutters more time.. there's 6 scum and he's sick.

Btw. U want to know why sentinel is confirmed scum?

He fucken stated he skimmed vers guide... Seriously.. lol.. talk about over compensation
I'm pretty sure he did this as scum in smurf mini as well

I was VT in smurf... I skimmed Ver's guide during Doctor Who mafia, aka when I signed up for the 5 games simultaneously. Haven't looked at it since.

On September 25 2013 21:35 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 21:34 yamato77 wrote:
Moc, Matt is town.

I want you to explain why Sentinel wasn't on your list last night and yet is now "confirmed mafia".

I must have missed that transition.

Filter DIve.. i have a lot of problems with his play including inconsistencies, and i didnt like his explanation stories.

also noticed all his scum reads are based on other ppl making accusations first (yet he doesnt sell the story this way)

When I posted my read on FirmTofu I explicitly stated Marv was the initial accuser, followed by Pandain, and after that I added in some insight of my own. My Day 1 cases I just pulled what I could from filters. Like I said before, Day 1 has always overwhelmed me and after it passes I can generally get a good grip on the game.

Haven't been scum since Redux.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 25 2013 19:56 GMT
#3499
Finally home for a short amount of time between school and work. No extensive filter diving like I did with LM and FT - those cases took me an hour just to construct. Nevertheless I have some time, so here are some reads:

Cephiro is gone and nothing else interesting really. Good vig target. Especially if he pops up to make another hasty case.

Pandain is very interesting. His case on me starts out by listing all my transgressions (for the record I was panicked, but I'm not going to post in an adrenaline rush. 30 minutes is still enough time to compose myself and hammer out something semi intelligent) and then ending by saying I played well D2. Yes it's chronological but it ends up being like yamato's post where he first voted for Chairman - extensively arguing one thing and then voting for another.

In this one however, Pandain defends me (later on). Here's why that's important.

Pandain, in the last two pages of his filter, has pushed the following scumreads with evidence: Stutters, Cephiro, VE. What do these people all have in common? They're lurkers.

On September 26 2013 03:21 Pandain wrote:
Yamato since I know your town and I won't have much time to give an analysis, I'll give you this.

I think VE is scum. He has been lurking during day two despite being here. Hasn't been sharing opinions only agreeing disagreeing. Votes Matt with the bandwagon then unvotes. You and WoS were both suspicious of VE and commented that he's scum and both of you got shot.

I'll post more about it later but that's who I want to get lynched. Also Rayn is feeling really weak to me now. Still think Stutters is scum but I've found better targets.

What I need to do is contrast VE with his town/ scum play which I'll do later.


He's lynching VE for lurking, and while he does provide a valid point that VE is present, which means he's here but not posting, note that he asks Yamato to do the heavy lifting and provide the analysis. Pandain in general only wants to lynch lurkers, presumably because they either have a hard time delivering their counterargument, or otherwise are in low esteem already by the thread in general. Easy picks.

He doesn't want to push a lynch on anybody - the most he gets is a list of people to check, not to lynch. He argues that he does the best he can with his limited time, but he doesn't spend any of it pushing lynches - only saying who is town.

This is interesting too. He says he voted marv, although it wasn't because marv was scum, but to generate discussion. i.e. marv wasn't really guilty to begin with, just to generate discussion.

On September 22 2013 08:14 Pandain wrote:
Voting VA probably best way to get him to contribute.

Risen how are you feeling about Sentinel?


Same story.

So really what we have out of Pandain is a trumpeting case that doesn't actually push a legitimate read, then a quiet period where all he does is announce who he thinks is generally town, and pushing only lurkers. Any other pushes he makes are either rescinded (me) or unexpanded on (FirmTofu).

I think I've found someone to vote on for the night. Off to work I go, I'll probably be back t-minus 1 hour or so.

##Vote: Pandain
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 25 2013 20:01 GMT
#3503
On September 26 2013 04:59 Pandain wrote:
I don't think I'm actually going to respond to that Sentinel post because it's way too dumb.


Splendid rebuttal there
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 01:12 GMT
#3883
I'm back with 377 new posts to read... is it just deadline? I've never seen this much discussion in four and a half hours.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 01:25 GMT
#3900
Why are we voting for LoneMeow? My read on him hasn't changed much... I think he tried to do something productive and gave up. As opposed to Newb47 (scum game) where it came pretty naturally.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 01:34 GMT
#3919
On September 26 2013 10:27 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:25 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Why are we voting for LoneMeow? My read on him hasn't changed much... I think he tried to do something productive and gave up. As opposed to Newb47 (scum game) where it came pretty naturally.

I would rather vote for VE, but basically because LM is better than Ceph. LM isn't contributing at all versus Ceph who is(at least now).

Yeah but I thought it was obvious that LM was a useless townie. If I had to pick one of the two I'd do Ceph... although I still like Pandain.

On September 26 2013 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Sentinel wtf are you even saying?
1) Pandain thought you were scum and made a case on you.
2) Pandain went back on that read and thinks you are town and makes a case on you.
3) Pandain defends you.

Are these Pandain reads all town to you? Stutters, Cephiro, VE. I don't give 2 fucks what you think about Pandain his case for a sec, do you think these 3 names are town? Give me %.

Then the shit about voting VA (or marv in lesser extend) was fucking brilliant. Also why is it scummy?

Koshi I think you misread something. I argued that Panda pushed Stutters/Ceph/VE because they were lurkers. Do I think Ceph is scum? Yeah probably. Doesn't really contribute anything, and he's been defending since he got on. Stutters I'd probably say is red as well. VE I doubt. My point is that someone like Ceph is already disadvantaged because even if hypothetically he's the shittiest townie in the world, everyone still think he's scum, plus all the catching up he has to do. I'm saying Panda is going after easy targets instead of the scummiest ones. Yes Ceph is a great place to start, but surely it doesn't warrant saying half the people are townies with Pandain's alleged limited time. There's shenanigans going on and I don't like them, hence my vote.

As for the case on me, he never changes it. The list actually looks like this

1) thinks my D1 play is scum
2) thinks my D1 play is scum but adds that my D2 play was very towny
3) defends me on the basis of my D2 play

My D1 play wasn't as lurky as say, Cephiro's, but it was also torn to shreds by what seems like half the people in this game, and wouldn't be hard to reanimate again... then when I started playing solidly, chalk it up to another townread.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 01:35 GMT
#3922
Guess I'm picking one, going for Ceph because I contend that LoneMeow is town

unvote/vote
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 01:39 GMT
#3931
On September 26 2013 10:38 iamperfection wrote:
marv get back in here or i start posting got spoilers


+ Show Spoiler +
George R. R. Martin dies before writing the 7th book
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 01:44 GMT
#3941
On September 26 2013 10:43 Pandain wrote:
ahh scum are voting against me


Keep telling yourself that.

Three guesses to who the one "yes" vote is.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 01:52 GMT
#3967
On September 26 2013 10:50 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:45 iamperfection wrote:
On September 26 2013 10:44 LoneMeow wrote:
I obviously prefer lynching Cephiro over being lynched myself.

Vote: Cephiro

do you think he is scum?


Uncertain. Not caught up. All I know is, I am the doctor that saved yamato.

Now do you believe me fuckers
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 01:53 GMT
#3970
I'd probably be more mad if I was here for the LM wagon to build up, I got here too late
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 02:01 GMT
#4009
pls deadline end I want to do my physics hw
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 02:10 GMT
#4018
Second day in a row geript shows up last minute to sheep

On September 26 2013 11:09 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2011 02:47 Koshi wrote:
On August 13 2011 02:43 Caphe wrote:
Now this is really weird. Minute ago, I cant get the stream working on 500KB. Give up, turn on uTorrent to download some porns. Few minutes later try my luck again and now the stream is working perfectly on 2.2mb O_O.
Guess even stream would like some porns too

Interesting story, where do you download this porn? I think that my "stream" also needs some. :°)



wat
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 02:18 GMT
#4035
On September 26 2013 10:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:50 LoneMeow wrote:
On September 26 2013 10:45 iamperfection wrote:
On September 26 2013 10:44 LoneMeow wrote:
I obviously prefer lynching Cephiro over being lynched myself.

Vote: Cephiro

do you think he is scum?


Uncertain. Not caught up. All I know is, I am the doctor that saved yamato.

Now do you believe me fuckers

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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 10:30 GMT
#4163
On September 26 2013 19:17 Umasi wrote:
if anyone wants to explain if what sentinel did is scummy or not, go for it, since marv's not gonna bother, and I'm just confused.
night


I think marv laid it out well but here:

I said you looked better because you were actively discussing. This was your first post after I posted my case. Before it, what I say is true. After that, you switch back to your old passive style where you contribute next to nothing and continue to do nothing. Please don't use my hasty analysis to justify your actions after it.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 18:24 GMT
#4370
On September 27 2013 03:04 yamato77 wrote:
Scum team has ~3 hours before I get home from class and name them all.


20 grokbux says I'm on there
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 18:28 GMT
#4374
Looking at cakecheese...

Also

On September 26 2013 23:49 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
You don't see how lynching the doctor and saving a probable mafia satisfies a scum agenda?

Really?

A 1 for 1 trade?

Sounds absolutely stupid to me.


Really 1 for 4 in the worst case, with one of the four being a doctor. Even if Ceph gets lynched D3, that's still an extra three kills the mafia gets to send in, up to 3 town deaths, and up to 3 less town votes.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 20:33 GMT
#4391
lolwat FT is alive isn't he?
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 26 2013 20:33 GMT
#4392
Blah. Should refresh this page after I get back from thug life.

yamato got me.
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