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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 22 2013 10:44 GMT
#1141
how can you make a case on me if i haven't done anything yet?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 22 2013 10:45 GMT
#1142
On September 22 2013 18:42 FirmTofu wrote:
As much as I dislike DP's play this game, DP's response to me is making me warm up to him. It is reminiscent of classic town play.

Townies know they are town. Therefore, when people call them scum, they instinctively believe the accuser is "bad" or scum. After all, they are town and they know that the accuser is wrong. This knowledge makes them act in anger and frustration when defending themselves.

Classic thought process: "How could this asshole accuse me? I'm town! I've been playing super pro-town all game and this guy is saying I'm scum? He must be a terrible player or scum."

While DP's anger toward me could be manufactured, it feels rather genuine.


Given DP exhibited this exact same response to at least one other player (geript) and probably someone else I forgot too, why is it enough to give you a townread of him when directed at you, yet it doesn't even register on your radar when he did it earlier in the thread (which you have apparently been reading)?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
September 22 2013 10:49 GMT
#1143
EBWOP: last quote came apart, it was from ObviousOne
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 22 2013 10:51 GMT
#1144
Firm/Zaragon are gonna have to make their feelings clear on VE for me, so I can appraise/shout at them as necessary
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 22 2013 10:52 GMT
#1145
oh you're here, Zaragon.

Talk to me about both your FT and VE reads if you'd be so lovely.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 22 2013 10:52 GMT
#1146
ve is town is he not??
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 10:53 GMT
#1147
On September 22 2013 19:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 18:42 FirmTofu wrote:
As much as I dislike DP's play this game, DP's response to me is making me warm up to him. It is reminiscent of classic town play.

Townies know they are town. Therefore, when people call them scum, they instinctively believe the accuser is "bad" or scum. After all, they are town and they know that the accuser is wrong. This knowledge makes them act in anger and frustration when defending themselves.

Classic thought process: "How could this asshole accuse me? I'm town! I've been playing super pro-town all game and this guy is saying I'm scum? He must be a terrible player or scum."

While DP's anger toward me could be manufactured, it feels rather genuine.


Given DP exhibited this exact same response to at least one other player (geript) and probably someone else I forgot too, why is it enough to give you a townread of him when directed at you, yet it doesn't even register on your radar when he did it earlier in the thread (which you have apparently been reading)?


In fact. He called me scummy for doing it earlier, and townie when it was directed at him.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 22 2013 10:55 GMT
#1148
Indeed. I'd rather like an explanation for what, exactly, the difference is to make what seems to be the same thing a tell for the opposite alignment.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Zaragon
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden235 Posts
September 22 2013 10:58 GMT
#1149
Tofu feels like he's genuinely coming in and joining the discussion by past links in the thread, and his appraisal of that discussion feels similar to my own, his approach and attention is just slightly different. I don't have a strong town read on him, just what he's doing feels town (unless, as I said, he's playing off DP with both being scum, I'm only setting that aside because its likelihood and usefulness are pretty low atm)

My filter already has my read on VE, and him dropping off almost completely since hasn't made me less suspicious. Only reason I wasn't comfortable going after him harder was because I'm new and have zero meta to go on about his posting habit, method and emotional level.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 10:58 GMT
#1150
On September 22 2013 19:55 marvellosity wrote:
Indeed. I'd rather like an explanation for what, exactly, the difference is to make what seems to be the same thing a tell for the opposite alignment.


He said he did it on purpose as a way to read me. Like he was intentionally inconsistent so that he could see if I would pick up on it or not.

This was all discussed on the previous page. I don't buy it. Clearly. As I am voting for him.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 22 2013 11:01 GMT
#1151
Zaragon, your filter has basically nothing of substance on VE, other than "feels", and "potentially a mafia VE might play this way if both these dudes are town".

Elaborate please.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 22 2013 11:03 GMT
#1152
On September 22 2013 19:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 19:55 marvellosity wrote:
Indeed. I'd rather like an explanation for what, exactly, the difference is to make what seems to be the same thing a tell for the opposite alignment.


He said he did it on purpose as a way to read me. Like he was intentionally inconsistent so that he could see if I would pick up on it or not.

This was all discussed on the previous page. I don't buy it. Clearly. As I am voting for him.


At the very best that it's extremely stupid. There's a whole thread-worth of material, including plenty of yours to be looking at, and he feels the need to indulge in some silly 'game' to read your alignment.

Why???

Almost anything else is better to do than that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
September 22 2013 11:05 GMT
#1153
On September 22 2013 19:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 19:55 marvellosity wrote:
Indeed. I'd rather like an explanation for what, exactly, the difference is to make what seems to be the same thing a tell for the opposite alignment.


He said he did it on purpose as a way to read me. Like he was intentionally inconsistent so that he could see if I would pick up on it or not.

This was all discussed on the previous page. I don't buy it. Clearly. As I am voting for him.

Yeah, its easy to get butt hurt over stuff like that.. but.. in my experience 9/10 its town that do stupid stuff like this, and sometimes create even stupider cover stories because they dont want to admit they are wrong.

Im still sussing out whether I think FT fits into that category.. as in, whether he is that 1/10 that is scum.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 22 2013 11:08 GMT
#1154
Pretty annoyed that kush said that coag is a decent vote actually. Especially as votes on coag has already been talked about by the thread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 11:23 GMT
#1155
On September 22 2013 20:03 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 19:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 22 2013 19:55 marvellosity wrote:
Indeed. I'd rather like an explanation for what, exactly, the difference is to make what seems to be the same thing a tell for the opposite alignment.


He said he did it on purpose as a way to read me. Like he was intentionally inconsistent so that he could see if I would pick up on it or not.

This was all discussed on the previous page. I don't buy it. Clearly. As I am voting for him.


At the very best that it's extremely stupid. There's a whole thread-worth of material, including plenty of yours to be looking at, and he feels the need to indulge in some silly 'game' to read your alignment.

Why???

Almost anything else is better to do than that.


Because he got caught in a huge inconsistency and then made up that it was all a plan to get out of it?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 22 2013 11:24 GMT
#1156
So basically no one read my analysis on that first FT post even though DP is now apparently coming to similar conclusions as me (though I'm still not sure if he's scum) and NOW everyone wants to discuss him even though i asked for discussion on it and no one responded.

K.

Thx thread.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 22 2013 11:27 GMT
#1157
Oh and DP I've asked this of you before, but why in the hell are you so angry this game (or at least acting as such)?
I've seen you get like this at various points of a game but never so consistently throughout and obviously so.

This is what made me talk early on about you 'overdoing it.'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 22 2013 11:31 GMT
#1158
On September 22 2013 20:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and DP I've asked this of you before, but why in the hell are you so angry this game (or at least acting as such)?
I've seen you get like this at various points of a game but never so consistently throughout and obviously so.

This is what made me talk early on about you 'overdoing it.'


Because people are attacking me stupidly based on meta they clearly know nothing about. Also geript has been a total fucking dick wad this game if he is town. And has repeatedly try and rile me up. Look at Ego. I did the same thing when scum oats attacked me stupidly based on meta.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 22 2013 11:40 GMT
#1159
*frowns at Zaragon for disappearing when I asked him a question*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 22 2013 11:42 GMT
#1160
Hey DP, I don't know if this is your first fucking rodeo or something, but hey guess what?
People accuse each other of shit all the time! Both stupidly and intelligently alike! Welcome to mafia!

My suggestions is calm your tits and play the game without resorting to the angry tone, again either fabricated or real. Scaring FT away doesn't do a whole lot for us but it certainly makes it easier to accuse him of being scum which appears to be what you want?

Now if you please, have a look at my earlier post for me and if you have any thoughts on the matter I'd like to hear them.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=51#1005
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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