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On September 22 2013 18:32 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:27 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 17:54 FirmTofu wrote:On September 22 2013 17:52 Mocsta wrote:
That doesnt make him scummy FT. I understand that meta cases aren't always the best. That's why I haven't made a case on DP and pushed him like an inbred retard (see:geript). I am simply posting my thoughts, nothing more, nothing less. So you are posting useless shit casting me in a scummy light and then are very clearly NOT calling me scum. What the fuck is it with bad players attacking me this game. You need to get off your high horse and step back for a minute. I refuse to indulge you and these ad hominem attacks. Maybe my meta argument is bullshit. Maybe I am completely wrong. That doesn't mean you wave your dick around like you rule the thread and every player is a piece of shit compared to you. If you want to discuss why my thoughts are poorly reasoned, I willing to have a go at it. I will not, however, humor you if you continue to waste my time in this manner.
I find it fucking hilarious that you are all upset about ad hom when you are quoting a post of yourself calling geript an inbred retard.
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I want you to actually read 5 games of mine before you make a meta case. If you come back and tell me which games you have read we can talk.
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As much as I dislike DP's play this game, DP's response to me is making me warm up to him. It is reminiscent of classic town play.
Townies know they are town. Therefore, when people call them scum, they instinctively believe the accuser is "bad" or scum. After all, they are town and they know that the accuser is wrong. This knowledge makes them act in anger and frustration when defending themselves.
Classic thought process: "How could this asshole accuse me? I'm town! I've been playing super pro-town all game and this guy is saying I'm scum? He must be a terrible player or scum."
While DP's anger toward me could be manufactured, it feels rather genuine.
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On September 22 2013 18:32 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:29 kushm4sta wrote:
dp you saying meta doesn't work on you is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. i think you are more metable than most poeple actually. like me for isntance Clearly it doesn't work for geript and Firm tofu. Why you scum kush?
well they are terrible at meta apparently
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@DP
I wasn't attacking geript with ad hom, I was insulting him. There is a difference.
I'm not going to make a meta case on you. I no longer believe you are scum.
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On September 22 2013 18:42 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:32 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 18:29 kushm4sta wrote:
dp you saying meta doesn't work on you is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. i think you are more metable than most poeple actually. like me for isntance Clearly it doesn't work for geript and Firm tofu. Why you scum kush? well they are terrible at meta apparently
Kush. If you had to lynch three players right now. who would they be and why?
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On September 22 2013 18:44 FirmTofu wrote:
@DP
I wasn't attacking geript with ad hom, I was insulting him. There is a difference.
I'm not going to make a meta case on you. I no longer believe you are scum.
Isn't that convenient for you.
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DP.
Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied.
Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started?
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On September 22 2013 18:44 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:42 kushm4sta wrote:On September 22 2013 18:32 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 18:29 kushm4sta wrote:
dp you saying meta doesn't work on you is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. i think you are more metable than most poeple actually. like me for isntance Clearly it doesn't work for geript and Firm tofu. Why you scum kush? well they are terrible at meta apparently Kush. If you had to lynch three players right now. who would they be and why?
I have no idea. probably lurkers atm since i have no scum reads? dont know who is lurking really though
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i spent all my time metaing you dp
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On September 22 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
DP.
Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied.
Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started?
I find it odd that FT thought I was scummy for being defensive. And then when I am defensive towards him he thinks I am townie. There is a real inconsistency in his narrative IMO.
I think a scum Firm Tofu would ABSOLUTELY not want to get into it with me.
Further his originally thread summary was really really off. Actually I have had some thoughts. I may construct a longer post shortly about this if you'll give me some time.
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On September 22 2013 18:47 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:44 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 18:42 kushm4sta wrote:On September 22 2013 18:32 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 18:29 kushm4sta wrote:
dp you saying meta doesn't work on you is the most ridiculous thing i ever heard. i think you are more metable than most poeple actually. like me for isntance Clearly it doesn't work for geript and Firm tofu. Why you scum kush? well they are terrible at meta apparently Kush. If you had to lynch three players right now. who would they be and why? I have no idea. probably lurkers atm since i have no scum reads? dont know who is lurking really though
If you had to. Commit to something please. Give me some names.
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On September 22 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
DP.
Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied.
Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started?
I know this isn't addressed to me, but I would like to take a moment to address it. I hope you don't mind.
As scum, I would use DP as a tool. I know DP is respected in this community and has the ability to sway lynches in his direction regardless of alignment. Assuming DP is town and I am scum, I would latch on to DP and win his trust. Then, I would exchange reads about other players and slowly convince him to vote whoever I wanted him to vote, essentially leading him astray.
As town, I am more interested in determining his alignment.
You can see which path I chose to take.
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ooo i know i just looked at the playerlist
. lonemeow because his progression of actions does not look organic. he votes whoever. they defend. ok vote osmeone else.
mattchew becaues bitching at othe rpeople but not doing anything himself
umasi maybe? dont remember
stutters looks like he had decided to tunnel me before the game even started.
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On September 22 2013 18:50 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
DP.
Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied.
Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started? I find it odd that FT thought I was scummy for being defensive. And then when I am defensive towards him he thinks I am townie. There is a real inconsistency in his narrative IMO. I think a scum Firm Tofu would ABSOLUTELY not want to get into it with me. Further his originally thread summary was really really off. Actually I have had some thoughts. I may construct a longer post shortly about this if you'll give me some time.
I would like to clarify my intentions here.
The inconsistent narrative was deliberate. Why? You are active. Accusing you allows me to read you better. Think rayn's style of play. By posting an inconsistent narrative, I can gauge your response as being townie or scummy in a quick, direct, and efficient fashion.
Furthermore, I can assess the extent to which you are actually scumhunting. The fact that you noticed the inconsistency makes you look more town to me. You want to find scum. You're looking for inconsistencies.
I can assure you, scum FirmTofu would buddy you until you die. You'll just have to take my word on that bit.
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On September 22 2013 18:51 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
DP.
Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied.
Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started? I know this isn't addressed to me, but I would like to take a moment to address it. I hope you don't mind. As scum, I would use DP as a tool. I know DP is respected in this community and has the ability to sway lynches in his direction regardless of alignment. Assuming DP is town and I am scum, I would latch on to DP and win his trust. Then, I would exchange reads about other players and slowly convince him to vote whoever I wanted him to vote, essentially leading him astray. As town, I am more interested in determining his alignment. You can see which path I chose to take.
Yeah dunno.. your posting is really reading forced to me. That alone doesn't make you scum.
I can't follow the above though, regardless of forced/non-forced consciousness... its a lot of talk.
As scum I would manipulate player X to be my puppet.. etc etc
Very few scum players have that skillset to proactively choose a player to influence; most adapt to the situation as it unfolds. So the above reads as total bullshit to me.
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On September 22 2013 18:51 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
DP.
Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied.
Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started? I know this isn't addressed to me, but I would like to take a moment to address it. I hope you don't mind. As scum, I would use DP as a tool. I know DP is respected in this community and has the ability to sway lynches in his direction regardless of alignment. Assuming DP is town and I am scum, I would latch on to DP and win his trust. Then, I would exchange reads about other players and slowly convince him to vote whoever I wanted him to vote, essentially leading him astray. As town, I am more interested in determining his alignment. You can see which path I chose to take.
I would like everyone to assess which players are buddying DP and look into them heavily because they are probably playing a scum game similar to how I would play it had I rolled scum.
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On September 22 2013 18:58 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:50 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
DP.
Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied.
Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started? I find it odd that FT thought I was scummy for being defensive. And then when I am defensive towards him he thinks I am townie. There is a real inconsistency in his narrative IMO. I think a scum Firm Tofu would ABSOLUTELY not want to get into it with me. Further his originally thread summary was really really off. Actually I have had some thoughts. I may construct a longer post shortly about this if you'll give me some time. I would like to clarify my intentions here. The inconsistent narrative was deliberate. Why? You are active. Accusing you allows me to read you better. Think rayn's style of play. By posting an inconsistent narrative, I can gauge your response as being townie or scummy in a quick, direct, and efficient fashion. Furthermore, I can assess the extent to which you are actually scumhunting. The fact that you noticed the inconsistency makes you look more town to me. You want to find scum. You're looking for inconsistencies.
I can assure you, scum FirmTofu would buddy you until you die. You'll just have to take my word on that bit.
So, what you are saying is that you accused me falsely based on some really bad meta read. and this whole time it was, in fact, a ploy in order to read me better? is that it?
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On September 22 2013 18:58 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:50 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
DP.
Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied.
Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started? I find it odd that FT thought I was scummy for being defensive. And then when I am defensive towards him he thinks I am townie. There is a real inconsistency in his narrative IMO. I think a scum Firm Tofu would ABSOLUTELY not want to get into it with me. Further his originally thread summary was really really off. Actually I have had some thoughts. I may construct a longer post shortly about this if you'll give me some time. I would like to clarify my intentions here. The inconsistent narrative was deliberate. Why? You are active. Accusing you allows me to read you better. Think rayn's style of play. By posting an inconsistent narrative, I can gauge your response as being townie or scummy in a quick, direct, and efficient fashion. Furthermore, I can assess the extent to which you are actually scumhunting. The fact that you noticed the inconsistency makes you look more town to me. You want to find scum. You're looking for inconsistencies.
I can assure you, scum FirmTofu would buddy you until you die. You'll just have to take my word on that bit. Maybe im twisting context here.. but you buddied him the moment you rescinded your pressure....
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On September 22 2013 19:00 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 18:51 FirmTofu wrote:On September 22 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote:
DP.
Do you find FT backing down indicative of a townie prodding for information and diverting course as they are satisfied.
Or scum prodding around, and diverting as shits about to get started? I know this isn't addressed to me, but I would like to take a moment to address it. I hope you don't mind. As scum, I would use DP as a tool. I know DP is respected in this community and has the ability to sway lynches in his direction regardless of alignment. Assuming DP is town and I am scum, I would latch on to DP and win his trust. Then, I would exchange reads about other players and slowly convince him to vote whoever I wanted him to vote, essentially leading him astray. As town, I am more interested in determining his alignment. You can see which path I chose to take. I would like everyone to assess which players are buddying DP and look into them heavily because they are probably playing a scum game similar to how I would play it had I rolled scum.
There are better town players than me in this game. So why look at the players buddying me? Why not others?
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