EPTOn September 28 2013 00:37 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What is VE's opinion on me? I'm reading thug right now
What is VE's opinion on me? I'm reading thug right now
You could be his +1 he hasn't decided yet.
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ObviousOne
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You could be his +1 he hasn't decided yet. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Why do my action yesterday specifically make me NOT MAFIA. A lot of people think I'm mafia, including some town reads. Why am I NOT MAFIA? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On September 28 2013 00:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: + Show Spoiler + Because I'm sheeping. If he's scum then I'm bussing cus that's what I do as scum, if he's town I'm pushing a mislynch--correct, no? It gives us a plethora of information from the votes yesterday, and according to yam/marv confirmed townies he is mafia. I don't like trusting other people in this situation, but they are confirmed now. Give me 3 reasons I am scum like this, no evidence required. A short sentence for each. 1) 2) 3) (1) You refused to vote Cephiro last cycle, and even challenged others who wanted to vote Cephiro. [A] On September 26 2013 09:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I have a really big problem with dec coming in here one and a half hours pre-lynch, after I didn't even know he was playing this game, and dropping that post. "LM is obviously noob town" REALLY? Nothing in his filter can be explained by him being scum at all? But apparently nothing in Cephiros filter is justifiable from a town perspective. Smells of generalizations. [B] On September 26 2013 10:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: <Regarding LoneMeow & Cephiro> I'm getting the feeling that both of these guys are town and scum dont give a fuck where the vote lands. [C] On September 26 2013 10:44 LoneMeow wrote: I obviously prefer lynching Cephiro over being lynched myself. Vote: Cephiro On September 26 2013 10:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: hi, who is mafia? From Stream:
(2) Mr.CC reaction to LoneMeow doctor claim, does not align with how he handles the Mocsta doctor fake-claim [A] On September 26 2013 10:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Or he's trying to out a doctor, and trying to switch the vote onto Cephiro. FUCK! no mention of yam at ALL in his filter either. FUUUUUUUCK [B] On September 26 2013 10:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: LOL IN B4 BOTH DOCS DOCCED YAM LOL From stream:
(3) Day 3 votes Cephiro due to "sheeping" As per the above, Mr.CC clearly treated Cephiro as town Day2. Now his premise for voting his town read is: "Because I'm sheeping". Thats bullshit. If Mr.CC believed Cephiro is town, he should be trying to prevent a mislynch; instead he is happy to just plop his vote down. Mr.CC actions do NOT align align with his words | ||
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Risen
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Mr. Cheesecake
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On September 28 2013 01:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Moc I said 1 sentence for each point. I gave you 3 points. And then provided reasoning lol.. it was what you wanted. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
I will tell you this Mocsta: You will never lynch me. I am not scum. Wasting your time with misconceptions about my play or how I think is bad. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On September 28 2013 01:01 Risen wrote: Not only that Mocsta, but his play, imo, looks very similar to his scum play in our last game together. And even though I'm not one for meta reads, he was scummy last game, too. I just wanted him alive because I needed his soul :< LOl... i appreciate the agreement.. but, was I not a scum read for you prior? Do you think I am bussing Mr.CC with that case? | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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Mocsta
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On September 28 2013 01:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Mocsta, I already said this. I believed your claim because I had a town read on you. I assumed you were outing because LM was faking with 10 mins to deadline. My all caps claim that both you and LM were doctors was SARCASM MOCSTA. Jesus. I am voting Cephiro today because 1) I never thought he was town, I just had a stronger scumread on LM 2) sheeping, it will tell us a lot about the voting patterns. I will tell you this Mocsta: You will never lynch me. I am not scum. Wasting your time with misconceptions about my play or how I think is bad. Well, i dont have to argue with you whether you are scum or not. Its up to the thread to decide. Regardless, Cephiro is getting lynched this cycle. And regarding the defense: On September 28 2013 01:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Has already been proven incorrect via the case I made.I am voting Cephiro today because 1) I never thought he was town, Rest is all WIFOM. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 28 2013 01:12 Mocsta wrote: LOl... i appreciate the agreement.. but, was I not a scum read for you prior? Do you think I am bussing Mr.CC with that case? Yes. I always talk to my scum reads, I just flipped my shit b/c Geript. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 23 2013 01:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Oh, ninja'd. Risen did the same thing as, admittedly 3P, in Aperture for D1. Keep him around for a while. Otherwise the other 3 seem OK for now. On September 26 2013 02:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I quite agree with that's how scum can play. You were in Aperture; As scum I saw the entire game how people on my team were playing -- apart from the couple actives they were all lurking and barely contributing unless their hide was on the line. The only other times Mr. CC has said a single word about me. Then this. On September 28 2013 01:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Mocsta, this is because Risen is mafia. No wavering on Risen being crazy, nothing else, just flat out calling me scum. Town players wouldn't display such certainty. If he's willing to claim cop right now with a different or same check on me and another player I'll gladly 1 for 1 (1 for 2 in the worst case scenario of him saying different with me and another townie and you guys not lynching him for three days in which case game over) | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On September 28 2013 01:17 Risen wrote: Yes. I always talk to my scum reads, I just flipped my shit b/c Geript. But, you aren't really talking to me? OK, how about this. Cephiro is getting lynched this cycle. If im scum, and Mr.CC is scum.. What do I have to achieve by pushing out this case at this point in time? If im scum, and Mr.CC is town, again, what do i achieve by pushing this out now? You were the one, who said, Cephiro promising to keep coming back is classic scum play that you would use; so i would really appreciate your thoughts on the above. | ||
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Risen
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Mocsta
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On September 28 2013 01:21 Risen wrote: I haven't read this in full yet. But just wanted to say, if any parity cops are out there, I think the checks are useless.+ Show Spoiler + On September 23 2013 01:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Oh, ninja'd. Risen did the same thing as, admittedly 3P, in Aperture for D1. Keep him around for a while. Otherwise the other 3 seem OK for now. On September 26 2013 02:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I quite agree with that's how scum can play. You were in Aperture; As scum I saw the entire game how people on my team were playing -- apart from the couple actives they were all lurking and barely contributing unless their hide was on the line. The only other times Mr. CC has said a single word about me. Then this. On September 28 2013 01:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Mocsta, this is because Risen is mafia. No wavering on Risen being crazy, nothing else, just flat out calling me scum. Town players wouldn't display such certainty. With only 1 RB confirmed; there is a mixture of 5 Framer/GF. Any high profile checks have such a high potential for manipulation, need to rely on scum hunting; not blue checking. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
I shouldn't have to justify my actions because I'm town, I have no idea who is scum or not and change my mind constantly based on what happens in the moment and what I'm rereading over filters. As scum my actions match EXACTLY with my words because I make sure they do: I try to never leave an inconsistency. If Ceph is my scumbuddy, say, I would have bussed him so fucking hard, OR, placed a casual vote on LM and afk'd the rest of the day. Actively pushing lynches away from scumbuddies is not what I do anyway. If you look at nomination I did that, but it was for towncred to bus another scumbuddy. In Aperture I friggen bussed my teammeate at an 8-8-8 vote: I didn't care if he was lynched. Why would I do differently here? I could have easily voted Ceph and looked townie for it. Unfortunately, I'm town and can't make myself look townie by knowing who flips what. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On September 28 2013 01:21 Mocsta wrote: But, you aren't really talking to me? OK, how about this. Cephiro is getting lynched this cycle. If im scum, and Mr.CC is scum.. What do I have to achieve by pushing out this case at this point in time? If im scum, and Mr.CC is town, again, what do i achieve by pushing this out now? You were the one, who said, Cephiro promising to keep coming back is classic scum play that you would use; so i would really appreciate your thoughts on the above. 1) Juicy town cred and the title of "Best scum play 2013" if it works since "no one would ever fake claim doctor to get the doctor lynched then bus his teammate who had been flying under the radar" 2) You get the appearance of scum hunting which is townie, since Mr. CC appears to be scum to at least one townie (me) | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Your reaction is hilarious btw. Assuming I have a red check on you... Afraid of something? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On September 28 2013 01:24 Risen wrote: 1) Juicy town cred and the title of "Best scum play 2013" if it works since "no one would ever fake claim doctor to get the doctor lynched then bus his teammate who had been flying under the radar" 2) You get the appearance of scum hunting which is townie, since Mr. CC appears to be scum to at least one townie (me) (1) I know you have a mafia award for "best scum play" but this is far fetched even for you. (2) The whole point of the "streams of consciousness" is for anyone doubting my alignment, to read what I have wrote. Read the posts, and read my comments. Do your thoughts align? Seriously, as scum, if im bussing Mr.CC its not going to be for something as detailed as my streams. WAY too much effort for the same net benefit of writing 3 lines saying Mr.CC is scum. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
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