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On September 28 2013 21:24 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 21:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
cc iamp stutters cephiro pandabearguy VE.
A couple of other contenders if i am wrong on someone. Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 11:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LoneMeow (13): Mattchew, Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, Coagulation, ObviousOne, VisceraEyes, Pandain, Cephiro, Stutters695, Mocsta, iamperfection, Mocsta. Mr. Cheesecake, VisceraEyes, deconduo, Umasi, Pandain, Zaragon So if we look pre-fake claim. Mattchew, Mr.CC, VE, Coag, OO, Pandain, Cephrio, Stutters& Post-fake claim. Mocsta, iamp, Mr.CC, VE, deconduo, Umasi, Pandain, Zaragon
5/6 scum voting one person, pre-fake claim. Yeah... im going with a no here.
That's WIFOM Mocsta. Pure WIFOM, and does not mean anything.
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Look at actions, not WIFOM.
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You can't base a read (town/scum) on someone based purely on who they voted for. Why are you doing this man?
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On September 28 2013 21:37 Mocsta wrote:Explain me the actions of iamp + pandain then.
I will, after dinner and voice mafia.
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Blah i won't, because my memory is bad.
And i am also kinda wasted. Tomorrow.
geript, Risen is in my "to look after people".
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Really weird kills. really weird..
##Vote: VisceraEyes
I am gonna post more tonight.
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On September 30 2013 22:10 Pandain wrote:
Rayn where have you been
Sick. Brain doesn't work well. I'm reading atm and posting more tonight.
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VE, you are not helping if you are town atm. I am not going to vote for Mocsta over you, especially when you just give up and yell "look at Mocsta, he way scummier than i am". That in itself is scummy as fuck.
If you are town shape up and start playing the game, Mocsta is at least contributing. You are not.
PAndain, who are your top scumreads besides VE?
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On October 01 2013 05:00 Pandain wrote:
FT, Stutters, you, Koshi, ?
So can you give me a complete read on Koshi?
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On October 01 2013 05:11 Pandain wrote:
The time for questions is last Rayn we are on day four
wtf is this shit? no questions anymore, just lynch people?
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uhh what the fuck is going on here...
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I don't like FT lynch. I don't like Mocsta lynch either.
What i do like is:
##Unvote:
##Vote: iamperfection
He is not looking like his townie self, at all, in this game. Despite being replaced he has caught up as can be seen from his first reads post. After that post he has been really absent, asking people's read on him and shit. Then there is his horrible analysis fron D2 votes. That's completely wrong and iamp is not that wrong as town. He is scum.
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His answers are reasonable, especially to what kita said.
Your point against his acuracy/inaccuracy in reads is non alignment indicative. Both town/scum can have accurate/inaccurate reads. His cases are always like that, especially as town. FirmTofu is far more confindent as scum than he is as town.
Your points (2) and (4) are good Mocsta. That's something he needs to explain. Other than that, i don't think he is scum (having played with him a lot as him being scum/town).
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On October 01 2013 22:52 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2013 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
His answers are reasonable, especially to what kita said.
Your point against his acuracy/inaccuracy in reads is non alignment indicative. Both town/scum can have accurate/inaccurate reads. His cases are always like that, especially as town. FirmTofu is far more confindent as scum than he is as town.
Your points (2) and (4) are good Mocsta. That's something he needs to explain. Other than that, i don't think he is scum (having played with him a lot as him being scum/town). And why is (1) not an issue? The inaccuracy is not an issue in isolation; but that was not the crux of what I stated. My issue arose from his accuracy of reads on TOWN people that did suspicion actions and the lack of justification on those reads. Nobody except FT thought Geript was town early game. Fact is, if you thought point (4) was solid, then the inaccuracy point holds, because how can he have a town read on Geript and miss such an important part of the DP/Geript conversation. And do you think it is acceptable for a firmtofu to base all his scumreads on "apathy'"? Do you think FT case he made on you (rayn) is acceptable? It was also based on apathy?
Your (1) is wrong. FT gave a reason for voting for you. It was "Cephiro flipping scum gives scum!Mocsta a motivation to do retarded things at the deadline". This is something that's not even far-fetched imo. I don't just think he is right.
I thought geript was town early on, for example.
Yes, i already said your points (2) and (4) were valid, that does not mean every one of his reads is bullshit because of their accuracy/inaccuracy.
About the "apathy" cases; It's not acceptable, it's bad play or scum play. Considering we are talking about FT here, i would say bad play, because that is what he does as town and not so much as scum.
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Still Mocsta, FT's case on me reads to me as that he genuinely believes i am scum. He would not do a meta-case that's wrong if he was mafia. He would get his facts straight because he would know i will tear that case apart and get him lynched. That's the main thing why i consider FT as town atm. I have a history with him in games and him calling me scum (or bad) is a main tell for me about his alignment. How he does it. This is town!FT way.
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Well whatever. It's not my job to explain things for him. I'll let him do it himself. I just don't think he is scum.
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I will vote for Stutters if people are dumb enough to not vote for iamp.
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On October 01 2013 23:46 Risen wrote:
I don't want to lynch FT anymore... I somehow glossed over the implications of his case on decon. I'd say decon is scum for the same reasons FT just did and kita your calling out of him makes no sense there. We now know cephiro is scum, decon's vote switch off of him onto geript, a confirmed townie (though unconfirmed at the time), is sketch as fuck. The thing that gets me about that post is decon seeing Cephiro react outlandishly to a post and say "Oh totes a town reaction, unvote and get onto geript" for 0 reasoning given. Town doesn't do this. Town doesn't also, earlier in their filter (which is 1 page + 1 post wtf?), call out people for having a 5 vote lynch d1 then leave their vote on geript d2 with two major candidates.
After simmering and going through filters, I want stutters dead. Decon is a VERY close second, though, and for the time being I don't want to see FT lynched.
That's actually a really good point on deconduo.
What do you think of iamp Risen?
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Because he is scum?
He has not done anything to help the town either.
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On October 01 2013 23:51 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: That was unfair and paints him as scum. Iamp's reads have been solid this game, to the Risen of today's mind. That's all I can say about him.
Umm no, they havn't. His actions and conclusions from especially the D2 lynch do not look like town!iamp's.
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