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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 25 2013 18:36 GMT
#3481
And for the record my posting annoys everyone so you just have to deal with it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 25 2013 18:38 GMT
#3482
Also also Pandain. In addition you could tell me why i am scum.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 25 2013 18:44 GMT
#3483
Almost home. Lynch rayn. He is scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 25 2013 18:54 GMT
#3484
On September 26 2013 02:58 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 02:44 iamperfection wrote:
On September 26 2013 02:38 marvellosity wrote:
iamp! your main scumread is recently in the thread.

why don't you ask him some questions?

Can you stop being annoying you said you were going to give me room to operate in order to prove my alignment instead you do this crap. If I have a question I'll ask it. And in fact I already asked a question to risen and he didn't directly answer but he says ft hasn't preformed well this cycle which I vehemently disagree with.

What question? And what has ft done to make you think that way?

why dont you like about his push about his umasi? He hasn't shyed away at all from the spotlight when its on him. He could as scum so easily just run away and give up he hasnt he has tried to post his thoughts and his reasoning.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 25 2013 19:07 GMT
#3485
Ok seems like thread slowed down a bit. Also seems people were just discussing me when I rejoined. Somewhat silly timing.
That being said. Rayn is scum. It is obvious. Do I really need to explain it? Really?

#vote rayn
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 25 2013 19:08 GMT
#3486
Uh yeah you kind of do
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
September 25 2013 19:09 GMT
#3487
I'll be back in a few hours will be around a lot before lunch
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 25 2013 19:18 GMT
#3488
Between Cephiro and FirmTofu I'd prefer to lynch FirmTofu. I'll try to be back before deadline but as I'm not even sure anymore when it is, no guarantees.

##Vote: FirmTofu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 25 2013 19:20 GMT
#3489
On September 26 2013 04:18 LoneMeow wrote:
Between Cephiro and FirmTofu I'd prefer to lynch FirmTofu. I'll try to be back before deadline but as I'm not even sure anymore when it is, no guarantees.

##Vote: FirmTofu

No. Lynch rayn please.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 25 2013 19:25 GMT
#3490
On September 26 2013 04:18 LoneMeow wrote:
Between Cephiro and FirmTofu I'd prefer to lynch FirmTofu. I'll try to be back before deadline but as I'm not even sure anymore when it is, no guarantees.

##Vote: FirmTofu

I would lynch this
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 25 2013 19:30 GMT
#3491
I'm back. Will read thread and find out who I want to lynch afterwards.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 25 2013 19:32 GMT
#3492
On September 26 2013 04:07 Koshi wrote:
Ok seems like thread slowed down a bit. Also seems people were just discussing me when I rejoined. Somewhat silly timing.
That being said. Rayn is scum. It is obvious. Do I really need to explain it? Really?

#vote rayn

Yes, explain it if you want my vote.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 25 2013 19:34 GMT
#3493
Koshi have you been following the game on D2? Why have you not posted?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 25 2013 19:35 GMT
#3494
On September 26 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi have you been following the game on D2? Why have you not posted?

I read everything in the last hour.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 25 2013 19:37 GMT
#3495
Well make a case then.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 25 2013 19:49 GMT
#3496
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=LoneMeow&currentpage=1

Find me town

##vote lonemeow
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 25 2013 19:49 GMT
#3497
Your vote on Pandain was as bad as your vote on CR. You didn't explain why Pandain was wrong. Not a little bit.
You haven't posted anything that was going to help town achieve their wincon at the same time you posted it.
Your read on JAT is the dumbest thing ever. I don't even know what it is with you and JAT tbh. It's horrendous.
Your only 100% give aways were on general reads.
Your push on me was not raynlike. You letting go of your push on me was not raynlike.

That's maybe some things others can easily see. But fact is I know you are scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 25 2013 19:51 GMT
#3498
general reads should be general advice or just advice.
I had a good night of sleep.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 25 2013 19:56 GMT
#3499
Finally home for a short amount of time between school and work. No extensive filter diving like I did with LM and FT - those cases took me an hour just to construct. Nevertheless I have some time, so here are some reads:

Cephiro is gone and nothing else interesting really. Good vig target. Especially if he pops up to make another hasty case.

Pandain is very interesting. His case on me starts out by listing all my transgressions (for the record I was panicked, but I'm not going to post in an adrenaline rush. 30 minutes is still enough time to compose myself and hammer out something semi intelligent) and then ending by saying I played well D2. Yes it's chronological but it ends up being like yamato's post where he first voted for Chairman - extensively arguing one thing and then voting for another.

In this one however, Pandain defends me (later on). Here's why that's important.

Pandain, in the last two pages of his filter, has pushed the following scumreads with evidence: Stutters, Cephiro, VE. What do these people all have in common? They're lurkers.

On September 26 2013 03:21 Pandain wrote:
Yamato since I know your town and I won't have much time to give an analysis, I'll give you this.

I think VE is scum. He has been lurking during day two despite being here. Hasn't been sharing opinions only agreeing disagreeing. Votes Matt with the bandwagon then unvotes. You and WoS were both suspicious of VE and commented that he's scum and both of you got shot.

I'll post more about it later but that's who I want to get lynched. Also Rayn is feeling really weak to me now. Still think Stutters is scum but I've found better targets.

What I need to do is contrast VE with his town/ scum play which I'll do later.


He's lynching VE for lurking, and while he does provide a valid point that VE is present, which means he's here but not posting, note that he asks Yamato to do the heavy lifting and provide the analysis. Pandain in general only wants to lynch lurkers, presumably because they either have a hard time delivering their counterargument, or otherwise are in low esteem already by the thread in general. Easy picks.

He doesn't want to push a lynch on anybody - the most he gets is a list of people to check, not to lynch. He argues that he does the best he can with his limited time, but he doesn't spend any of it pushing lynches - only saying who is town.

This is interesting too. He says he voted marv, although it wasn't because marv was scum, but to generate discussion. i.e. marv wasn't really guilty to begin with, just to generate discussion.

On September 22 2013 08:14 Pandain wrote:
Voting VA probably best way to get him to contribute.

Risen how are you feeling about Sentinel?


Same story.

So really what we have out of Pandain is a trumpeting case that doesn't actually push a legitimate read, then a quiet period where all he does is announce who he thinks is generally town, and pushing only lurkers. Any other pushes he makes are either rescinded (me) or unexpanded on (FirmTofu).

I think I've found someone to vote on for the night. Off to work I go, I'll probably be back t-minus 1 hour or so.

##Vote: Pandain
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 25 2013 19:56 GMT
#3500
On September 26 2013 04:49 Koshi wrote:
Your vote on Pandain was as bad as your vote on CR. You didn't explain why Pandain was wrong. Not a little bit.
You haven't posted anything that was going to help town achieve their wincon at the same time you posted it.
Your read on JAT is the dumbest thing ever. I don't even know what it is with you and JAT tbh. It's horrendous.
Your only 100% give aways were on general reads.
Your push on me was not raynlike. You letting go of your push on me was not raynlike.

That's maybe some things others can easily see. But fact is I know you are scum.

What's wrong with my vote on Pandain?
I don't understand.
What's dumb about my read on JAT?
I don't understand.
We already talked about this, you said in the end that this does not make me scum. How does it make me scum again?
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