TL Mafia LXII: TL Noir - Page 177

On September 26 2013 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Noted.
I am not saying LM is town but I think it is very possible that he is just overwhelmed by the size and the players of this game. He is an easy target for scum and I don't like the people on the wagon that much.

On September 22 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Look at how he interacts with people. Even in his one-liners the thoughts are clear and not wishy-washy at all.
It's easy to understand what he thinks and why, even when he does not give complete reasons for his thoughts.
It's nothing like this game. He does not follow any "game plan" in this game. His thought process is not clear and his reasons change after asked about them. If you want to have more insight of his meta, please read GoT scum QT (the first ~150 posts).
Here: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/QABVbtFWtEj

On September 23 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So why did you not push more votes on him instead of giving up when someone disagrees with you?
You got Pandain to vote with you, why is it impossible for you to push your agenda if i disagree with you? That's not town!Koshi'y.

Koshi: Is not necessarily town, but definitely not worth to be discussed as a lynch tomorrow unless he goes back to passive-mode. N1 he has played a lot better than on D1, but i would not call him strong town.

On September 24 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Even if you are phone posting you will! I know you will if you are town! <3

On September 25 2013 21:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can't understand Pandain, i just can't. Things he say make sense but then again they don't make sense. Ugh...
I have never played with him before so i have no idea what he does as town or scum. I think he is supposed to be a good player no? If he is, lynch.

On September 26 2013 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Noted.
I am not saying LM is town but I think it is very possible that he is just overwhelmed by the size and the players of this game. He is an easy target for scum and I don't like the people on the wagon that much.

On September 26 2013 05:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


What makes him different from Cephiro in regards to being an 'easy target'

On September 26 2013 05:29 justanothertownie wrote:

Cephiro is an experienced player.

On September 26 2013 05:29 Pandain wrote:
Rayne, I'll make a case.

1. You didn't stop spamming like you said you would pre-game. Of course if you hit scum, you would be likely to continue your previous play which is spam + rampant accusations. Indicates scum.

2. You ask too many questions and don't contribute enough. Most of your activity is actually questions.

Your case on Kush is too weak for me to find you completely genuine.

Koshi did the same in Golden, you know this as well as I do.

Looks like you're just trying to find something where there's not. Koshi's response was perfectly logical.

And you keep going and going, and I get the impression in your head that everything Koshi is doing hints scum to you. Then you suddenly switch and say he's not a good lynch unless he plays super passive, which he does and then you still don't do anything.

"DEFINITELY NOT WORTH TO BE DISCUSSED"



But he didn't until like 10 hours before lynch. Why aren't you pushing him. This isn't the same mindset you had in Golden Sun or espoused before.



This is a clear lie and only makes sense if you had a mindset to bullshit from the start. AKA indicates that you're posting rapidly and not thinking, but you were clearly confident enough to vote me.

All in all they're all small details except for the spamming and the questions, which you do in town anyway. I would include you as one of my scum reads but its not certain and I'm more confident in VE, and even note his recent throwaway bullshit vote. VE as an active player does not throw away bullshit votes without real explanation.

I will now quickly go and analyze VE.

On September 26 2013 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:

1. I am not sure if you are the best lynch candidate. Could you answer my post where i ask you about your stutters vote?
2. I am not going to choose any 6 people. That's stupid.

On September 26 2013 05:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


Players like Stutters and Sylencia are experienced players, but people often refer to them as "easy targets" or "lynchbait".

On September 26 2013 05:33 justanothertownie wrote:

So? I think it is much easier for attack LM because they don't expect him to defend himself.

On September 26 2013 05:33 Pandain wrote:


I assume you already realize that lynching me is dumb.
Your concern about my Stutters vote is that I'm not confident enough? Do I need to respond to that?

On September 26 2013 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
As far as I know, the lynch was never limited to Cephiro and FT. Sentinel is still an option, I'm now on the table for some, but for some reason LM chose FT between FT and Cephiro.

On September 26 2013 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
As far as I know, the lynch was never limited to Cephiro and FT. Sentinel is still an option, I'm now on the table for some, but for some reason LM chose FT between FT and Cephiro.

On September 26 2013 05:25 Cephiro wrote:
Well there have definitely been some interesting reactions among certain individuals. However, here is my opinion on who should be lynched today:

kushm4sta: There is just no way this guy is town. For someone posting as much as he is, the amount of content is way too small. He's basically just posting "Hey guys, I really don't care." And yet some people somehow consider him town? He has one post that I actually find above the decent line. Barely. He keeps calling several people town, many for no reasons whatsoever. He mentions very few people he is suspicious of, and at most says "lynch pls", follows up with a vote a few hours later that has no effect on the game due to his non-committal. Even when Coag was calling his vig shot, he was basically saying "yea go for it sure", when he earlier would have been ready to lynch Coag.

justanothertownie: Comments on pretty much everything possible, and ends up with the conclusion "null/not alignment-indicative" almost every single time. Asks several unrelevant questions, where he offers his "maybe he would do it for reason x, or maybe he wouldn't for reason y theories", again taking no stance. Later on his posts start sounding better on the general level, but they still aren't working towards a goal. His reasons for suspecting someone are posted by others (Marv's post on Mocsta, which follows up shortly with this.), and he can't find anything suspicious about a player with as much content as Mocsta on his own? He isn't taking a firm stance here, but the thing is that he doesn't even want to. He's fine with sheeping along in the thread and looking like he has opinions about stuff.

He also brings this up a lot:

Reminding people that you're openly ready to answer questions is not bad. The thing is, it's the only way he wants to contribute. There is easily lots of content available by the point in the game he says this, and many possible players to look at. But he doesn't want to take firm opinions on anything. It's like he's trying to avoid angering anyone in the game to avoid being targeted.



Another fine recent quote that is as fluffy as is humanly possible. This way of posting gives him the possibility of choosing whichever option is more convinient later on. This slowly ascends from having him red in his spreadsheet since his townreads are voting for him into a vote. Anyone reading his filter can see the ambigious nature of the posts, and it has given him too much of a free pass so far. Someone who wants to buddy, be afraid of taking an own stance to things, and wanting to buddy everyone just simply cannot be town.

That's for the two easy ones. The more complicated cases are coming a bit later, I am still working on them. Should be able to put them out with enough time for people to read them before the deadline.