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On September 25 2013 05:40 Koshi wrote:Ok lads. Total drunk and I am reading everything with a german accent. + Show Spoiler + didnt like the coag shot, but I guess he is confirmed town with yamato claiming to be shot + protected. I also think the VA reads should have some weight, it is the first time I have seen VA actually give multiple reads. And it is very interested he added rayn because they play in a lot of minis and VA never gives strong reads like this. I am somewhat sad he got shot over people like FT.
somewhat surprised that not more vigis acted n1. Also there is no RB claims? Strange?
Anyway, I only glanced over the posts since p140. Nothing too special I think.
For people I.would vote tomorrow. I think I am going to look deeper into the reads VA gave and 1 out of those 4 or sheep thread. I should have 2-3 hours to play the game tomorrow. Around 23 hours from now.
I really have nothing to add of value atm. Please note down that in the 2 months I have played mafia I have not afked like this ever. So just give me this cycle at least. Thread sentiment is that I am town. Happy I could at least prove that again.
So yeah, I do not know how.many vigs/docs/cops we should have. But lynching somebody from the WoS/VA list shouldnt be too horrible. Or at least they should be discussed if they are.on both lists. Because VA does not give reads like this easily, he could have done it to save his skin though.
Out of active posters I really could lynch rayn tbh. Like today he asked good questions it seems, but I am lacking the rayn drive behind those questions. Normally in town games when he asks questions, you have this feeling if it is answered wrongly in rayns opinion, you will get tunneled. Or if he interacts with not scumreads of his, you have a general idea why he asks it, it is driven by a scumread of his. Like read the Acrofoles/rayn interactions from GoT, you really miss the drive behind some of the conversations.Also, early this day. He said I might still be scum. And that is really a strange thing for rayn to say. + Show Spoiler +Mocsta knows this, but even in voice mafia I have to only open my mouth and rayn gives me a 100% townread. This does not mean rayn reads me like a book, but he picks up on some posts of mine that he can say "oh because these 5 posts, Koshi is 100%town" and after n1 in which I was really townmeta Koshi. I find it strange rayn is not more certain about his read. Like even if I am scum, because I posted this way rayn should b more certain I feel like. If you understand what I mean. I am not scum obviously, but the restriction rayn has is strange. That and his tunnel d1 on me felt forced now.
But dont think he will get lynched today so it seems. So pretty sure rayn & me will have long conversations d3 lol.
PS: I cant read rayn btw. But the warm comfort he reads me correct is missing. And the Koshi tunnel day 1 felt not raynlike, even though thepoints he brought up.were.valid .
wtf... how is the mattchew case of no value? please read and comment
regarding your quote in red... rayn was scum that scum... u r saying their is a marked difference in play, and that makes him scum this game???
dude, you need to back off and find someone else. there's more than one scum in this game.
lasltly, this sheep VA thing is unsettling. nothing to do with me being a read.. more to do with your meta. last time u tried to sheep dead players this vehemently, you were SK sleeping flipped town vivax in Sicilian.....yes, I'm suggesting if u sheeop. then sheep thread sentiment and vote mattchew
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On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
, how come there is nothing going on right now?
Kush I am eagerly awaiting your announced contribution.
Also I would like to know yamatos, geripts, sentinels, marvs, rayns and kushs current opinion on FT if you have the time (not only because they were on rays wagon but for various different reasons). I mean everyone elses comments are welcome too but the opinions of those people are especially interesting to me.
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter.
did u know there is a case that most of the actives have inputted on?
its on mattchew, i suggest u comment...... I got no idea how u avoided this
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It is pretty bizarre that jat didn't comment on Matt at all.
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yam, there's a couple of lynches I might want to push over Sentinel, but I'm not sure if I'll want to push them until about ~12 hours from deadline.
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yam
talk to me.
did u like mattchew followup to the case? consider there was genuine pressure based on several votes, all from actives.
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On September 25 2013 08:17 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
, how come there is nothing going on right now?
Kush I am eagerly awaiting your announced contribution.
Also I would like to know yamatos, geripts, sentinels, marvs, rayns and kushs current opinion on FT if you have the time (not only because they were on rays wagon but for various different reasons). I mean everyone elses comments are welcome too but the opinions of those people are especially interesting to me.
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter. did u know there is a case that most of the actives have inputted on? its on mattchew, i suggest u comment...... I got no idea how u avoided this
Yeah, I know. But if you look at the time stamps you will see that there WAS nothing going on at that point in time.
No, I didn't miss the case on Mattchew I read it and thought about it quite a bit. I just didn't have anything to say about it (nothing to add to the discussion). The logic is solid. I can't comment on the meta argument because I don't know his meta.
Overall I could vote him if he is still the main wagon at the end of Day2 and hasn't defended himself properly by then. Right now he did nothing like that and the people voting for him are mostly town in my book.
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On September 25 2013 08:49 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 08:17 Mocsta wrote:On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
, how come there is nothing going on right now?
Kush I am eagerly awaiting your announced contribution.
Also I would like to know yamatos, geripts, sentinels, marvs, rayns and kushs current opinion on FT if you have the time (not only because they were on rays wagon but for various different reasons). I mean everyone elses comments are welcome too but the opinions of those people are especially interesting to me.
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter. did u know there is a case that most of the actives have inputted on? its on mattchew, i suggest u comment...... I got no idea how u avoided this Yeah, I know. But if you look at the time stamps you will see that there WAS nothing going on at that point in time. No, I didn't miss the case on Mattchew I read it and thought about it quite a bit. I just didn't have anything to say about it (nothing to add to the discussion). The logic is solid. I can't comment on the meta argument because I don't know his meta. Overall I could vote him if he is still the main wagon at the end of Day2 and hasn't defended himself properly by then. Right now he did nothing like that and the people voting for him are mostly town in my book.
This is all distinctly lacking your own opinion...
Look at it from my point of view, jat. What am I supposed to take from this post about your alignment? about your views? about anything?
"the case is fine and i might vote him, depending on stuff"
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On September 25 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
It is pretty bizarre that jat didn't comment on Matt at all.
I would think scum would at least want to comment on it one way or another. Indicates town to me.
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On September 25 2013 08:53 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
It is pretty bizarre that jat didn't comment on Matt at all. I would think scum would at least want to comment on it one way or another. Indicates town to me.
I would think town would at least want to comment on it one way or another. Indicates null to me.
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On September 25 2013 08:52 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 08:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2013 08:17 Mocsta wrote:On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
, how come there is nothing going on right now?
Kush I am eagerly awaiting your announced contribution.
Also I would like to know yamatos, geripts, sentinels, marvs, rayns and kushs current opinion on FT if you have the time (not only because they were on rays wagon but for various different reasons). I mean everyone elses comments are welcome too but the opinions of those people are especially interesting to me.
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter. did u know there is a case that most of the actives have inputted on? its on mattchew, i suggest u comment...... I got no idea how u avoided this Yeah, I know. But if you look at the time stamps you will see that there WAS nothing going on at that point in time. No, I didn't miss the case on Mattchew I read it and thought about it quite a bit. I just didn't have anything to say about it (nothing to add to the discussion). The logic is solid. I can't comment on the meta argument because I don't know his meta. Overall I could vote him if he is still the main wagon at the end of Day2 and hasn't defended himself properly by then. Right now he did nothing like that and the people voting for him are mostly town in my book. This is all distinctly lacking your own opinion... Look at it from my point of view, jat. What am I supposed to take from this post about your alignment? about your views? about anything? "the case is fine and i might vote him, depending on stuff"
That's exactly the reason I didn't comment on it. I don't have a strong opinion on it.
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On September 25 2013 08:53 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
It is pretty bizarre that jat didn't comment on Matt at all. I would think scum would at least want to comment on it one way or another. Indicates town to me.
so the ~20 players who haven't commented on it are all town then?
pro logic Pandy.
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On September 25 2013 08:54 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 08:53 Pandain wrote:On September 25 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
It is pretty bizarre that jat didn't comment on Matt at all. I would think scum would at least want to comment on it one way or another. Indicates town to me. I would think town would at least want to comment on it one way or another. Indicates null to me.
No your thinking good town.
Unless you assume he's genuinely clueless as scum, which isn't usually the case.
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On September 25 2013 08:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 08:52 marvellosity wrote:On September 25 2013 08:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2013 08:17 Mocsta wrote:On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
, how come there is nothing going on right now?
Kush I am eagerly awaiting your announced contribution.
Also I would like to know yamatos, geripts, sentinels, marvs, rayns and kushs current opinion on FT if you have the time (not only because they were on rays wagon but for various different reasons). I mean everyone elses comments are welcome too but the opinions of those people are especially interesting to me.
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter. did u know there is a case that most of the actives have inputted on? its on mattchew, i suggest u comment...... I got no idea how u avoided this Yeah, I know. But if you look at the time stamps you will see that there WAS nothing going on at that point in time. No, I didn't miss the case on Mattchew I read it and thought about it quite a bit. I just didn't have anything to say about it (nothing to add to the discussion). The logic is solid. I can't comment on the meta argument because I don't know his meta. Overall I could vote him if he is still the main wagon at the end of Day2 and hasn't defended himself properly by then. Right now he did nothing like that and the people voting for him are mostly town in my book. This is all distinctly lacking your own opinion... Look at it from my point of view, jat. What am I supposed to take from this post about your alignment? about your views? about anything? "the case is fine and i might vote him, depending on stuff" That's exactly the reason I didn't comment on it. I don't have a strong opinion on it.
ok, so you don't have a strong opinion. but you said the logic is sound. so if the case is sound and the logic is good, logically you should think he's mafia, yes?
so what is it you see from Matt that makes you think he might not be after all?
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On September 25 2013 08:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 08:53 Pandain wrote:On September 25 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
It is pretty bizarre that jat didn't comment on Matt at all. I would think scum would at least want to comment on it one way or another. Indicates town to me. so the ~20 players who haven't commented on it are all town then? pro logic Pandy.
Context context, would assume you know not to generalize traits of scum and traits of town
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If my opinion was of that much value to you, you could have asked btw.
So if it pleases you I will take another look at him, ok? When I first read the case it went exactly as I said: Sound logic - guy could be mafia. That's about it.
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On September 25 2013 08:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 08:52 marvellosity wrote:On September 25 2013 08:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2013 08:17 Mocsta wrote:On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
, how come there is nothing going on right now?
Kush I am eagerly awaiting your announced contribution.
Also I would like to know yamatos, geripts, sentinels, marvs, rayns and kushs current opinion on FT if you have the time (not only because they were on rays wagon but for various different reasons). I mean everyone elses comments are welcome too but the opinions of those people are especially interesting to me.
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter. did u know there is a case that most of the actives have inputted on? its on mattchew, i suggest u comment...... I got no idea how u avoided this Yeah, I know. But if you look at the time stamps you will see that there WAS nothing going on at that point in time. No, I didn't miss the case on Mattchew I read it and thought about it quite a bit. I just didn't have anything to say about it (nothing to add to the discussion). The logic is solid. I can't comment on the meta argument because I don't know his meta. Overall I could vote him if he is still the main wagon at the end of Day2 and hasn't defended himself properly by then. Right now he did nothing like that and the people voting for him are mostly town in my book. This is all distinctly lacking your own opinion... Look at it from my point of view, jat. What am I supposed to take from this post about your alignment? about your views? about anything? "the case is fine and i might vote him, depending on stuff" That's exactly the reason I didn't comment on it. I don't have a strong opinion on it. ok. If u don't have a strong opinion. The case clearly did not resonate with u.
Now is the time to explain what was not strong about it
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The case was fine like I said. But a good case does not necessarily mean the target is mafia.
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On September 25 2013 08:57 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2013 08:54 marvellosity wrote:On September 25 2013 08:53 Pandain wrote:On September 25 2013 08:19 marvellosity wrote:
It is pretty bizarre that jat didn't comment on Matt at all. I would think scum would at least want to comment on it one way or another. Indicates town to me. so the ~20 players who haven't commented on it are all town then? pro logic Pandy. Context context, would assume you know not to generalize traits of scum and traits of town
Pls. Comment on the Mattchew case.
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On September 25 2013 08:58 justanothertownie wrote:
If my opinion was of that much value to you, you could have asked btw.
So if it pleases you I will take another look at him, ok? When I first read the case it went exactly as I said: Sound logic - guy could be mafia. That's about it.
Right. And u had no curiosity to find out more?
Don't u want him moved out of null territory. Because null is what u just said.could be mafia.
I don't have a problem if u disagree with the case... I have a problem if u HAVE no stance
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On September 25 2013 09:00 justanothertownie wrote:
The case was fine like I said. But a good case does not necessarily mean the target is mafia.
Your reactive license has just been revoked.
Proactive or gallows. Choose your adventure.
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