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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 25 2013 08:57 Pandain wrote: Context context, would assume you know not to generalize traits of scum and traits of town isn't that what you did? lol | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
not good. | ||
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justanothertownie
16342 Posts
On September 25 2013 09:02 ObviousOne wrote: Your reactive license has just been revoked. Proactive or gallows. Choose your adventure. Meanie... Alright alright as I said I am taking a second look on Mattchew and will give you a stronger statement. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
I was biting my tongue. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9648 Posts
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Aside from his post to explain his Geript vote...I'm not seeing high content at all. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On September 25 2013 09:08 iamperfection wrote: is cephiro in the game or did he get replaced? He's here. As is the Mattchew case. Gigogogo! | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On September 25 2013 09:08 Mocsta wrote: Wasn't pandan. Meant to be a high content low volume poster.. Aside from his post to explain his Geript vote...I'm not seeing high content at all. no pandain is hit or miss. some games he has hi content posts splashed with 1 liners. Hes kind of like a neutered gonzaw that spams. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
No because I applied it in a specific context. Was he doing a long analysis trying to say someone else is better? Just posting to post with small suspicions? If its that, and he's trying to lay low, does ignoring an oncoming lynch make sense? Not conclusive and only a small thing, so doesn't warrant that much discussion. Also it's too much me vs you ATM, and we'll see what he flips after game anyway. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9648 Posts
On September 25 2013 09:09 Mocsta wrote: He's here. As is the Mattchew case. Gigogogo! as in you want a peek on my notes i guess i can oblige 27: Mattchew-scum Terrible response to the pressure that has come to him. Seems like he has decided to use this cycle to just calling marv scum without putting any effort in to convince people why or to dow ell anything really. Seems to have resigned to his fate http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=149#2977 and dosnt want to try to convince anyone of anything. The spotlight is on him and he has crumbuled. mocs case has merit i specfically like his points about his approach to stutters. dont really care for the voice mafia junk but mattchew's actions since the case make me strongly believe he is scum | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On September 25 2013 09:08 Mocsta wrote: Wasn't pandan. Meant to be a high content low volume poster.. Aside from his post to explain his Geript vote...I'm not seeing high content at all. Weird. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 25 2013 08:58 justanothertownie wrote: If my opinion was of that much value to you, you could have asked btw. So if it pleases you I will take another look at him, ok? When I first read the case it went exactly as I said: Sound logic - guy could be mafia. That's about it. I'm not going to talk about this much more, but I'll say this, and hope you get me I, or anyone, shouldn't have to ask for your opinion; by default I want to hear what everyone has to say on a substantial case. Generally speaking, making reads on a player is much easier if you can read through and follow their thought process and see how you feel about that. It doesn't even necessarily matter if your final conclusion isn't decisive either way, as long as we can see how and why you got there. There's a player called fuba who I introduced to mafia, and he's not a heavy poster at all. He's told me several times that often he finds it hard to post, even though he spends hours reading the game, because he's not sure. I told him the same, just post what you're thinking about things so that we can see your thought process. I got a scumread on him in Les Mis (that i kinda forgot somehow) because his posts were much more dense and obfuscate-y than normal, I couldn't follow his thought process very well. | ||
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justanothertownie
16342 Posts
On September 25 2013 00:44 Mocsta wrote: @Rayn: Regarding - Mattchew OP links are NOT updated. Mattchew filter http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=Mattchew Im just going to list things that stick out to me whether pro/con and then summarise + Show Spoiler +
Overall. I have a few problems with him (1) Tries to insinuate stutters is scum through others, but provides no insight of his own. In fact, he doesnt even probe stutters directly to ascertain his alignment. Exacerbated when he confirms he didnt have a scum read on yamato when voting him... but lists stutters on his scum team (His vote should have been on stutters !!) (2) When speaking about chariman_ray opener; the phrasing is really odd. Its almost as if he knows the guy is town.. i actually cant pinpoint my issue with it, its just really odd. (3) I have played voice mafia with this guy twice now. As town, matt is easily able to establish himself. He speaks freely and with confidence, is to the point, and doesn't listen to bullshit. I'm not getting an iota of that this game. I actually can't see how this guy can be town. His actions are very scummy/deceitful, and I can't picture the motive for a town to keep asking about stutters, without providing personal insight, or querying stutters directly. Im actually really happy with this guy to be voted. And willing to vote him above anyone else I discussed prior this cycle. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mattchew Ok, I read his filter again and your case. Still the same feeling about it. Sounds logical - guy might be scum. Is it compelling enough to convince me 100%? No, it is not. On the other hand Mattchews reaction to the case is pretty damning in my eyes. He doesn't even try to defend himself or present better targets. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Why? When I called u out early game, people defended. U on the basis of high content, low volume. And it perturbs me that u never respond when called out... | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
What do u plan to do.about it? | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
At JAT | ||
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justanothertownie
16342 Posts
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justanothertownie
16342 Posts
##Vote: Mattchew Are you happy now? | ||
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justanothertownie
16342 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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