GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars

On August 06 2013 05:26 s0Lstice wrote:
trivia. no google allowed

what is the sigil of house goodbrother

whoever answers becomes host

On August 07 2013 06:40 gumshoe wrote:
Name all five faceless men assassinations that occur during the 5 existing books.

On August 07 2013 06:38 gumshoe wrote:
To whom do the arms on briennes shield belong to.

On August 07 2013 07:06 gumshoe wrote:
List every trial by combat that occurs within Grrs written works concerning westeros.

On August 07 2013 07:19 gumshoe wrote:
What are the names of tommens kittens.

On August 07 2013 07:22 gumshoe wrote:

Ok name all materials potentially present in a maesters chain and if applicable provide their meaning.

On August 07 2013 07:30 johnnywup wrote:
this is the image i was talking about

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On August 07 2013 07:32 gumshoe wrote:
1.List twelve members of the kings guard past or present.

2.List Five hands of the king past or present.

3.List 10 of the walls nineteen castles.

On August 07 2013 07:36 gumshoe wrote:
List 8 significant individuals who desired to get into daenarys's pants/ marry her for bonus points list the three individuals who at least partially succeeded.

On August 07 2013 07:48 gumshoe wrote:


You forgot the grey joys, also hizdahr married her so yeah, that beats a kiss.

On August 07 2013 08:38 s0Lstice wrote:
My dearest gumshoe.

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On August 07 2013 10:11 DrParnassus wrote:
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might have been a bad question... there are multiple correct answers

On August 07 2013 10:19 Onegu wrote:
Name all the sand snakes

On August 07 2013 12:43 Onegu wrote:
Before we start you guys missed Tyene the daughter of a septa and friend of Arianne, and Obella, Dorea, and Loreza.

On August 08 2013 14:37 yamato77 wrote:

this might mean more if you tell us who is in your house

On August 08 2013 14:50 Onegu wrote:
How the hell did Oberyn get house Martell?

On August 08 2013 14:54 yamato77 wrote:

What information are you denying scum by not telling who is in your house?

On August 08 2013 15:50 yamato77 wrote:

Is there any rational reason not to reveal this information?

Why did you try to act like you WEREN'T from House Martell? Again, what is there to hide here?

On August 08 2013 15:14 Onegu wrote:
If it is random scum distrabution there maybe multiple houses who dont have scum, if scum can completely wipe a house out getting rid of a vote, that is very helpful for scum and something we should avoid if possible.

On August 08 2013 16:00 yamato77 wrote:

Not only is the information of who is in what house GENERALLY USEFUL when attempting to figure out what is going on in this setup, it also gives invaluable information about people's reads and who voted who for lord.

Compared to

"WELL MY HOUSE IS ALL TOWN BECAUSE THEY SEEMED TOWN IN N0 PMS AND MAYBE KEEPING THEM ALL SECRET PROTECTS US AGAINST SOME REMOTE POSSIBILITY OF SCUM KILLING US ALL OFF AND WINNING"

It seems pretty good.

On August 08 2013 22:24 Vivax wrote:
1.Johnny, do you have any reads to share with us yet? There's something irking me in your filter.

First post: You speak of the possibility of an assassin type of role.



2.Last post: Now you think it only matters to know who is in each house, which is something different than knowing each players' name, as if it didn't matter any more if there's an assassin or not.



Additionally, you spend a lot of time talking about all this stuff, but also say this:



3.which isn't consistent with the fact that you don't bring forward something to talk about instead. Is there anything specific you want to talk about that isn't house politics, since you didn't want it to be discussed any more? Why not include it immediately into your posts?

On August 08 2013 23:46 Oatsmaster wrote:

Dude, you arent thinking the right way about it. Im saying that 3 our of our list in the game is town. Thats it. That shouldnt do anything to help you or hurt you from finding scum.

I think koshi and Johnnywup top candidates for reasons already expressed by both dandel and myself. Yeah Onegu really needs to explain that bit. First giving out info is bad, then townread.

On August 09 2013 14:02 FirmTofu wrote:

You will see in a moment. Can you look over the post for me and see if you see anything that stands out to you?

On August 10 2013 00:44 Acrofales wrote:
Here's what I told Lord Martell in my most recent raven:

At Highgarden, I received two ravens from Ser Sharrant, but he seemed responsive and they had interesting content. He seemed to be participating in the game, thinking about things and even trying to uncover other kinsmen's loyalties. He was also exchanging missives with another vassal, Ser Wup, as well.

Since moving to King's Landing I have sent him a number of ravens urging him to participate in the public debate, as well as asking for his opinion regarding my vote and what to do with the House's powers. Initially he replied. That was when we were talking about the magic that we control. Since then, he has been silent. Ser Wup has also not heard from him since the start of the day. I fear his keep may have been overrun by Greyjoy longships, or perhaps he has joined the pretenders himself.

The most interesting thing he sent to me was a brief message stating he had conclusive evidence that kushm4sta is a loyalist. However, he never sent the evidence.

On August 10 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
johnnywup - There are two things why i think johnnywup is mafia. The first one is his overly defensive stance on his 3p thing. When being questioned about that in thread, his first comment is "other people did not find that scummy". That´s really going overboard if you are town, why would you be more interested to tell people that other people did not find you scummy rather than if they thought you were right or wrong and how did you end up in the conclusion? Another thing that stands out is johnnywup´s house member list. In itself list posts are bad, but this is worse. He hasn´t even put a single bit off thought into the lise (notice him not realizing in which house Vivax/Gumshoe are). Scummy as fuck.

On August 10 2013 09:22 iamperfection wrote:
but i think i know why your having difficulty answering

On August 10 2013 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
johnnywup can you start making them?
Who do you think is mafia?

On August 11 2013 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dunno guys. This lurker thing isnt going so well.

Also how the fuck did acro get voted for again?

On August 11 2013 15:37 yamato77 wrote:

It's even more depressing that he got elected Lord again, lol.

jubjubs in Tyrell, no surprise.

On August 12 2013 03:26 Clarity_nl wrote:


This is pretty bad actually Acro. Can you confirm you asked him this and please explain why.
I'd also like to know if you asked anyone else.

On August 14 2013 14:13 Risen wrote:
That was quite the active night. Easy lynch today. They would have killed me if I was wrong.

##vote: Sharrant

On August 14 2013 14:42 Mocsta wrote:
Johnny. Whilst I disagree on kush I won't fight u about it. He's just one of those guys everyone gets burned by eventually.

What I will query instead is this.

There's more than 2 scum in the game. Please provide an alternative to kush that we can discuss.

On August 14 2013 16:21 Mocsta wrote:
Clarity
Regarding onegu
Here's a stupid thing.. take it as u want

That house list before the night post. He was meant to pm that to me.. instead he posted in the thread.
Anyways. He pms going sorry. I'm going to be modkilled what do I do.
I suggested apologise to Dr.p and edit out.

Anyways. If this guy was a scummer. I imagine first course of action is to go to qt... Not pm me.
Weak heuristic I know. So take it as u want.

On August 14 2013 23:39 kushm4sta wrote:

FOR YOU VIVAX ANYTHING.. as long as you keep teh semen out
yamato- flipped scum
xatalos- oh yeah i just forgot about him
sharrant- acro told me his claim seemed townie. rather than look into it myself i decided to just take his word for it
johnny- i read the first post of your (vivax) filter which lead me to the first post of johhnny's filter and it seemed hella scummy
acro- feel read. backed up by recent interactions by pm. first he's on my dick hard, wanting the kush sauce, then he is all mad at me for no reason and thinks im scum.

On August 16 2013 06:48 Xatalos wrote:


You're looking at several KP tonight. What do you think of that? Should you maybe do something to prevent us from choosing you today?

On August 16 2013 06:48 Xatalos wrote:


You're looking at several KP tonight. What do you think of that? Should you maybe do something to prevent us from choosing you today?

On August 16 2013 06:48 Xatalos wrote:


You're looking at several KP tonight. What do you think of that? Should you maybe do something to prevent us from choosing you today?

On August 16 2013 07:22 Risen wrote:
Xata seems so scummy to me and I don't know why.

On August 16 2013 10:24 kushm4sta wrote:
I have a strong town feel read on Grackeroni.

He speaks with a lot of confidence, even under pressure. I looked at his history and this is his first scum game.. I just don't see him acting like this as scum.

On August 16 2013 12:19 Grackaroni wrote:
In my opinion I don't think Kush would bother to read through my games as scum in order to get a better read on me. I don't think any other townie has done that much. (except for Rayn and that was a game he actually played with me) I think that Lords should use their kp on DI if Vivax flips 3rd Party and on Johnnywup if Vivax is scum.

On August 17 2013 14:27 s0Lstice wrote:


well this is gonna be a fun day it looks like.

so you are claiming to be an actual detective. you also have the ability to PM two people outside of the normal house PMs. anything else I'm missing?

On August 17 2013 14:31 Mocsta wrote:

I think you are town; so Im going to believe the check is valid.

I led the lynch on Vivax; why check me?

On August 17 2013 14:50 Onegu wrote:



Yes kp went to you after kush death

On August 18 2013 05:38 Xatalos wrote:


What's your reasoning for rayn being scum?

On August 20 2013 15:03 Mocsta wrote:

This is such a sore loser attitude. I was a replacement. My slot was effectively dead.

I'm not condoning the modkill. Merely stating to blame a loss based on what the replacement did is poor play. I lynched scum and pushed 4/5 of them in the thread..yet was requested to be shot...what did u do?

On August 20 2013 15:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:johnnywup because he responded to attacks on him by getting overly defensive and because he really didn't do much. Sorry if this left some bad feelings for you, nothing personal, it's just a game. :/

On August 20 2013 16:25 WaveofShadow wrote:

That means he was doing a good job as scum, honestly.

I'm thinking I see a little of your character flaws showing through here.
It was a little like the other day when I made some lighthearted jabs at you sucking on LoL and you took it kinda personally.

For the most part people on mafia don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings and any animosity present ingame often disappears as soon as the game is finished. There is no reason to take anything anyone says to heart, whether in this game, or any other. I can definitely understand your feelings because afaik you're a little new to the community here (and maybe on LoL as well?) and you may not be used to that sort of thing.

People on TL are your friends, man! Just try and lighten up a little bit.

On August 20 2013 16:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That's 100% true. Also for the record; If i ever call anyone bad / stupid in game (even when i am town) that is only for their play and nothing personal. I always try no not personally insult people.

EDIT: I have personally experieced this in one game on another forum where another townie flamed me for an housr and told me that i should never play again because i was wrong in D1. I just thought "fuck you, i'll show you how bad i am", ended up directing all town and mafia actions where i wanted to, bullshitted the mafia to hit the doc target and confirmed everyone as town or mafia and mafia conceded on D2. You can turn these things into victory if you gain strength from those happenings instead of getting demotivated.

On August 20 2013 17:48 Xatalos wrote:


Onegu just felt so sincerely townish especially in PMs and also in thread to a lesser extent. Gut feeling, I guess? And I really facepalmed hard when he was lynched....

On August 20 2013 17:57 Xatalos wrote:


Although if you were lynched, it wasn't going to be endgame yet...? Not sure. Yeah, I pushed for you to be shot. Lurkers are my bane. I played SC2 Mafia for a long time before joining TL Mafia... In SC2 Mafia it was standard for scum to say nothing or at most talk very sparingly, while townies often spammed. Here it's more like... Townies are either very active or lurking. And scum are semi-active or semi-lurking, mostly semi-lurking the later the game goes on. But I always misfocus on the most inactive lurkers :/

On August 21 2013 20:45 kushm4sta wrote:
clarity mafia should not take hours a day to play. simple as that. it's not my fault i didn't read. it's the spammers fault. sorry but i do not accept that you basically need to have no life at all to play mafia.

the problem is not me. the problem is a lot of town spams really hard (rayn is probably the worst but there are a lot like him) and that is NOT A GOOD WAY TO PLAY AS TOWN. it is incredibly anti town, and anti fun, and anti people who don't have 12 hours of freetime a day.

SMD clarity seriously smd. you are way out of line.