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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18326 Posts
August 11 2013 17:38 GMT
#1921
On August 12 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.

Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do?


Please rayn, I beg you, stop. Here, let me help you and quote the relevant posts.

On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...

On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway

On August 11 2013 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway



Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference

you're right that was stupid.


Thanks for wasting 10 posts on this subject though. DRAW A CONCLUSION OR STFU

Here is your conclusion. iamperfection and Grackaroni are doing incredibly stupid stuff if they are town.
They are not working together in their house.
When they are being called out from their stupid stuff they say "my bad, it was dumb".

WHY THE FUCK DO TOWNIES DO STUPID STUFF WITHOUT THINKING FOR 5 MINUTES?
Right, for no reason..


Jesus christ. What possible Blackfyre motivated reason is there to blab that shit in public? If Grackaroni is a Blackfyre he already has the information, so it is by definition not indicative of whether he is a pretender or not.

This really says NOTHING about whether or not Grackaroni is a Blackfyre.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 11 2013 17:39 GMT
#1922
He will not lose any HP that night, no matter how many different kp.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18326 Posts
August 11 2013 17:39 GMT
#1923
EBWOP: jesus christ = By the seven!
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 11 2013 17:40 GMT
#1924
On August 12 2013 02:39 Acrofales wrote:
EBWOP: jesus christ = By the seven!


Roleplayslip, lynch!
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18326 Posts
August 11 2013 17:41 GMT
#1925
On August 12 2013 02:39 Onegu wrote:
He will not lose any HP that night, no matter how many different kp.


So you are more like a protector than a doctor. Is it possible that Xatalos not being able to act last night has anything to do with you?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 11 2013 17:41 GMT
#1926
You should really switch to a nice dornish red. That swill you drink rots your brain.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 11 2013 17:43 GMT
#1927
No I dont block his actions, just anything that would reduce his HP has no effect.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:44 GMT
#1928
On August 12 2013 02:38 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.

Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do?


Please rayn, I beg you, stop. Here, let me help you and quote the relevant posts.

On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...

On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway

On August 11 2013 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway



Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference

you're right that was stupid.


Thanks for wasting 10 posts on this subject though. DRAW A CONCLUSION OR STFU

Here is your conclusion. iamperfection and Grackaroni are doing incredibly stupid stuff if they are town.
They are not working together in their house.
When they are being called out from their stupid stuff they say "my bad, it was dumb".

WHY THE FUCK DO TOWNIES DO STUPID STUFF WITHOUT THINKING FOR 5 MINUTES?
Right, for no reason..


Jesus christ. What possible Blackfyre motivated reason is there to blab that shit in public? If Grackaroni is a Blackfyre he already has the information, so it is by definition not indicative of whether he is a pretender or not.

This really says NOTHING about whether or not Grackaroni is a Blackfyre.

This is scum motivation:
Mafia wants to know how much HP people have much more than town. If iamp uses the check he basically has to tell his house members he is gonna use it, other wise he could get caught (if let´s say Xatalos becomes a lord and uses the check). When he tells the results, Grackaroni outs the results in thread "because dumb". If Grackaroni did not do that, and strange things start to happen with night KP, this points to Xatalos/iamp/Grackaroni. Now, when Grackaroni did out the check, if strange things start to happen it points to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON IN THE GAME!
Magic!
table for two on a tv tray
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18326 Posts
August 11 2013 17:45 GMT
#1929
On August 12 2013 02:41 Onegu wrote:
You should really switch to a nice dornish red. That swill you drink rots your brain.

Honestly, I don't understand how you sandskunks drink that sour stuff. Nothing compares to a good gold from the Arbor. But I will take it you meant to say "no, I did not prevent Xatalos from going about his business last night".
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:46 GMT
#1930
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?
table for two on a tv tray
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 11 2013 17:46 GMT
#1931
Yeah I didnt stop him from doing whatever he wanted to do.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18326 Posts
August 11 2013 17:48 GMT
#1932
So if you are more a protector than a healer, why did you refer to yourself as a medic?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 11 2013 17:49 GMT
#1933
On August 12 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:38 Acrofales wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.

Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do?


Please rayn, I beg you, stop. Here, let me help you and quote the relevant posts.

On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...

On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway

On August 11 2013 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway



Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference

you're right that was stupid.


Thanks for wasting 10 posts on this subject though. DRAW A CONCLUSION OR STFU

Here is your conclusion. iamperfection and Grackaroni are doing incredibly stupid stuff if they are town.
They are not working together in their house.
When they are being called out from their stupid stuff they say "my bad, it was dumb".

WHY THE FUCK DO TOWNIES DO STUPID STUFF WITHOUT THINKING FOR 5 MINUTES?
Right, for no reason..


Jesus christ. What possible Blackfyre motivated reason is there to blab that shit in public? If Grackaroni is a Blackfyre he already has the information, so it is by definition not indicative of whether he is a pretender or not.

This really says NOTHING about whether or not Grackaroni is a Blackfyre.

This is scum motivation:
Mafia wants to know how much HP people have much more than town. If iamp uses the check he basically has to tell his house members he is gonna use it, other wise he could get caught (if let´s say Xatalos becomes a lord and uses the check). When he tells the results, Grackaroni outs the results in thread "because dumb". If Grackaroni did not do that, and strange things start to happen with night KP, this points to Xatalos/iamp/Grackaroni. Now, when Grackaroni did out the check, if strange things start to happen it points to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON IN THE GAME!
Magic!

so do you think one of us is scum or not? Otherwise i see no point to this conversation.

and your wrong we still don't know what the starting hp is of the other houses and we don't know if they are the same in every house. Also we don't know if our house starting hp was truly 7 it is an educated guess but nothing is confirmed.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18326 Posts
August 11 2013 17:52 GMT
#1934
On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?

Because nothing in this action points to it being motivated by rebellious thoughts, and everything ot it being motivated by a complete lack of thought whatsoever. Sometimes dumb actions are really just dumb, and while you have gone out of your way to make up a motivation that fits a Blackfyre, you really had to go out of you way for it. The most suspicious thing with regards to the use of swords is the timing of Gumshoe's death. But that was BEFORE the use of magic was pronounced publicly.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 11 2013 17:53 GMT
#1935
On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?


Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad"

You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost.
I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum.

The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 11 2013 17:53 GMT
#1936
You are a Medic, your familiarity with poisions lets you prevent all kill points that would placed on a target for one night.

Im paraphraseing, but I said medic because the PM was medic
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:54 GMT
#1937
On August 12 2013 02:49 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:38 Acrofales wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:16 iamperfection wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2013 02:08 iamperfection wrote:
Like what's the point to this rayne I don't get it?

The point is i would expect some cooperation in houses. Your house doesn't seem to cooperate and i would like to know why?

So the fact that I didn't give them a book of how to play mafia for dummies means we don't cooperate? I asked them their thoughts on what to do and quite frankly I was going to do what I thought was best.

Okay now we are getting somewhere. Why do you think Grackaroni outed the check result if you specifically asked his thoughts on what to do?


Please rayn, I beg you, stop. Here, let me help you and quote the relevant posts.

On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...

On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway

On August 11 2013 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:29 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:27 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:26 Onegu wrote:
On August 11 2013 14:24 Grackaroni wrote:
We used our check on our own house before the end of the night and Me/Iamp/Xatalos all had 7 hp. Gumshoe had 1, so every lord did shoot him but why wouldn't they since he was town...



Why are you giving this info out?

you thought it was odd so I told you what was up. Shouldn't make a difference anyway



Yeah letting scum know exactly how many KP to use doesnt make a a difference

you're right that was stupid.


Thanks for wasting 10 posts on this subject though. DRAW A CONCLUSION OR STFU

Here is your conclusion. iamperfection and Grackaroni are doing incredibly stupid stuff if they are town.
They are not working together in their house.
When they are being called out from their stupid stuff they say "my bad, it was dumb".

WHY THE FUCK DO TOWNIES DO STUPID STUFF WITHOUT THINKING FOR 5 MINUTES?
Right, for no reason..


Jesus christ. What possible Blackfyre motivated reason is there to blab that shit in public? If Grackaroni is a Blackfyre he already has the information, so it is by definition not indicative of whether he is a pretender or not.

This really says NOTHING about whether or not Grackaroni is a Blackfyre.

This is scum motivation:
Mafia wants to know how much HP people have much more than town. If iamp uses the check he basically has to tell his house members he is gonna use it, other wise he could get caught (if let´s say Xatalos becomes a lord and uses the check). When he tells the results, Grackaroni outs the results in thread "because dumb". If Grackaroni did not do that, and strange things start to happen with night KP, this points to Xatalos/iamp/Grackaroni. Now, when Grackaroni did out the check, if strange things start to happen it points to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON IN THE GAME!
Magic!

so do you think one of us is scum or not? Otherwise i see no point to this conversation.

and your wrong we still don't know what the starting hp is of the other houses and we don't know if they are the same in every house. Also we don't know if our house starting hp was truly 7 it is an educated guess but nothing is confirmed.

How is it possible that your house´s starting HP was not 7? Why do you even assume so as the check reveals that gumshoe was at 1 HP, which confirms that all the lords shot him?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2013 17:55 GMT
#1938
On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?


Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad"

You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost.
I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum.

The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing?

I think one of them is scum, yes. I think Grackaroni is the most likeliest of them to be scum.
table for two on a tv tray
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
August 11 2013 17:55 GMT
#1939
On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?


Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad"

You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost.
I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum.

The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing?

no the likeliest conclusion is that gum was shot by a town vig at the end of the night when he was still alive.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18326 Posts
August 11 2013 17:56 GMT
#1940
On August 12 2013 02:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: And after all this ridiculous stuff people are just letting this kinda stuff slip by because the guys said "my bad, it was stupid".

wtf is up with you? How are you going to find mafia if every scummy thing is gonna be brushed away by sinply saying "my bad, i was dumb"?


Because dumb does not equal scummy. If I point out something that is scummy scum can't say "yeah that was scummy my bad". If someone does something dumb and it gets pointed out they can say "yeah that was dumb my bad"

You're also wrong, because strange things already happened with the kp. Gumshoe was at 1 hp from house kp and died in the nightpost.
I stand by the fact that this means one of the lannisters is scum.

The question is, do you think he's scum? If your answer is no then my follow-up question is what the fuck are you doing?


My thoughts regarding this were in a missive to Lord Oberyn. I will simply repeat it here:

Our house (House Tyrell) chose not to use our magics last night, although I was sorely tempted to when gumshoe continued to escape death. What do you make of him eventually dying at dawn? It seems strange for a Blackfyre to put the poor sod out of his misery. A rather uncharacteristic boon to the realm. But lacking further information, how did a loyalist knight know that our own swords would fail to kill him and thus deliver the killing blow?

I can imagine a Blackfyre upstart jumping at the opportunity to strike the first blow and kill any loyalist, however useless, but I am having a hard time finding Blackfyre motives in House Lannister. The primary suspect, gumshoe, turned up dead (and true to the realm, the gods protect his soul) and my secondary suspicions were on Ser Xatalos, who seems unlikely now, given how the night has played out.

Could some other lord have used the magic without notifying his house, in order to send this information to the blackfyres? If so, I trust we will be told of this, at a date in the future when a loyal lord of that house tries to use the magic and finds the scroll has disappeared.
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