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On August 12 2013 01:41 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that Is this like when I thought FT was town? Cause thats probably gonna happen again. Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp? Your an idiot
*you're
So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp?
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On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is scummy about it? Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place.
The point Iamp was getting at, was that scum probably already know the result of the HP check.
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On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is scummy about it? Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place.
I think they are both town
And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet
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On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone?
What is the point of asking dumb questions. He got told it was dumb and he said "yeah it was, my bad"
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On August 12 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:41 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that Is this like when I thought FT was town? Cause thats probably gonna happen again. Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp? Your an idiot *you're So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp?
Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game
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On August 12 2013 01:47 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:41 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that Is this like when I thought FT was town? Cause thats probably gonna happen again. Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp? Your an idiot *you're So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp? Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game
So how do you use meta right?
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On August 09 2013 18:00 Grackaroni wrote:Finally read the thread, I am most suspicious of Jrkirby. First off Nobody in House Martell has gotten a good read off of him because nobody in House Martell really talked to each. The best contribution in thread he made was calling out S0lstice for not electing his town read and naming 2 people town who the majority of town has already agreed were town. After that he started making posts such Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 06:35 jrkirby wrote:
Finally, why have all the houses not posted a list of their members yet?
I think that it's actually beneficial to town to post these lists, and here's why:
1) Once scum have a list of 5 of the houses, they have a list of every house.
2) in a 24 player game, scum almost guaranteed have 4-6 members. Scum are spread out (I think it's random or something, right?) so they already know probably 3-4 houses at the start.
3) 2 (or is it 3?) houses have already posted their list. There's a good chance this fills in the missing info for scum.
4) All the house lists will probably be posted by day 2 anyway. Scum will only be missing this info for a short time.
5) Scum know all the lords already. This further helps them fill in the gaps.
6) Knowing the houses is not too beneficial to scum. Scum are more likely to want to eliminate every non-scum player in a house than an entire house (based off my possibly flawed logic - they can use this to WIFOM, be careful).
7) Knowing the houses is beneficial to town. We can help predict who will be lord in later days, we can help predict who is likely to be shot. We know who can PM a certain player, so it's easier to find people with reads on them. We don't think two people are on a scumteam together when they're just house buddies. Things are simpler, we don't get confused when REDACTED is posted. The list goes on.
8) Displaying all houses gives more info to town than it gives to scum.
9) Transparency is beneficial to town, and giving out house lists helps with transparency.
I can think of one good reason why we might not want to give out house lists:
1) There might be 3P that wants to eliminate a house, or secondary objectives for scum to eliminate a house. This is entirely speculation though, so I don't put too much weight into it. This is a post that I would be ok with if it was in the start of the game, but he chose to talk about this during a time when scumhunting was actually taking place and he could actually participate in conversation. Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 06:41 jrkirby wrote:
One question I would like to ask the thread: Does anyone KNOW how much HP they have? I do not know how much HP I have. If you know, obviously I'm not asking you to announce how much HP you have to the thread. Actually, don't even say that you know how much HP you have. I just want to announce that I do not know how much HP I have.
This could be beneficial to town because then they can do better speculation on what people's roles are like. Choosing to talk about setup rather than scumhunting and he has already disappeared without really pressuring or conversing with anybody Everyone else has seemed engaged in the current conversations and actively scumhunting and these posts just didn't fit in with what I think a townie would be posting about during the time of the thread. He seems like he is more interested in blending into town than scumhunting. There was an exchange between Oats and Yamato at the start of the game that rubbed me the wrong way. It was so disruptive and anti-town, that I have trouble believing that it came from 2 town players. It didn't seem normal to me and I even got a little bit of a staged feeling (as in they could be both scum randomly attacking each other at the start of the game). I think remember someone claiming they were probably town for being aggressive but some scum are more comfortable getting in arguments with people to help buff up their post count and mask their lack of contributions. @Xata/Clarity/anyone awake. Is there anybody you would like me to comment on before i go to bed?
I wanted to point out this post, first how does he know we havent talked to jrkirby much, actually at this point in time I had actually started to PM more often than I had been, graken isnt a lord and we didnt say to much in post about our pms with jrkirby, it was yamato we hadnt talked to much. He also talks about blending in but thats not what jrkirby did he brought up points that werent being talked about. Jrkirby always looks scummy and is a very easy target for scum to pick up on and make it look like they are searching scum when they are just going after a weaker player.
He then goes on with a bunch of short posts agreeing with random things and basicly dropping kirby. And stays talking about the DI s0l thing alot. Then once he sees a bandwagon starting he jumps on it saying I should be voted. And he goes back and forth on the gumshoe kill and what happened alot. I have a slight scum read on him.
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On August 12 2013 01:47 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is the point of asking dumb questions. He got told it was dumb and he said "yeah it was, my bad"
Clarity stop already.
Someone telling iamp "you were dumb" is different from "why did you do it".
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On August 12 2013 01:45 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is scummy about it? Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place. I think they are both town And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet
Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread?
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On August 12 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:47 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:41 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that Is this like when I thought FT was town? Cause thats probably gonna happen again. Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp? Your an idiot *you're So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp? Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game So how do you use meta right?
Not use it as much as you do
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On August 12 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:45 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is scummy about it? Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place. I think they are both town And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread?
Because he's stupid I guess
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On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:47 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:41 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that Is this like when I thought FT was town? Cause thats probably gonna happen again. Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp? Your an idiot *you're So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp? Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game So how do you use meta right? Not use it as much as you do
I dunno, working pretty well for me so far.
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I don't see any reason to not lynch yamato here, he's been mostly arguing with people over dumb things and hasn't been trying to find scum. No reason not to believe the red check given the unlikeliness he was framed.
##Vote: yamato
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On August 12 2013 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:47 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:41 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that Is this like when I thought FT was town? Cause thats probably gonna happen again. Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp? Your an idiot *you're So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp? Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game So how do you use meta right? Not use it as much as you do I dunno, working pretty well for me so far.
No your making terrible meta arguments and aren't backing them up or proving your point your being lazy and bad
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On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 01:45 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is scummy about it? Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place. I think they are both town And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread? Because he's stupid I guess
The dude is allowed to PM you guys? Why are you not cooperating?
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On August 12 2013 01:55 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:47 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:41 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 12 2013 01:39 iamperfection wrote:
And oats if you think yamato is town your going to have to
Do a lot better than that Is this like when I thought FT was town? Cause thats probably gonna happen again. Can you stand being wrong twice Iamp? Your an idiot *you're So what are the similarities between Sicilian and this game Iamp? Your using meta wrong. Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game So how do you use meta right? Not use it as much as you do I dunno, working pretty well for me so far. No your making terrible meta arguments and aren't backing them up or proving your point your being lazy and bad
So using the same 2 games, Sicilian and this one, I could make a meta argument that convinces you?
so basically here,
Just because they aren't the same doesn't mean yamato is town this game
you werent exactly 100% accurate.
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On August 12 2013 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 01:45 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is scummy about it? Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place. I think they are both town And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread? Because he's stupid I guess The dude is allowed to PM you guys? Why are you not cooperating?
What do you mean?
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On August 12 2013 01:58 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2013 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 01:52 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 01:45 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2013 01:40 iamperfection wrote:On August 12 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What was the point of outing the result of the HP check to everyone? What is scummy about it? Why not just tell one of your townreads, like Xatalos? Because that would have been the right course of action imo, when you used the check, which i do not agree was wise in the first place. I think they are both town And I wanted to know why the fuck gum wasn't dead yet Yeah i agree wit h you on that. Why did Grackaroni out that in thread? Because he's stupid I guess The dude is allowed to PM you guys? Why are you not cooperating? What do you mean?
Like, if i was you i would have done this:
"Hey Xatalos & Grackaroni. I am now gonna use a HP check on our house because of X. When i get the results i will tell them to you because i am quite sure you guys are town. This is how we proceed. Do not out the results whatever it is when we three are all alive. If strange things start happening with night KP, we can deduce that someone from our house could be in fact mafia."
Now with the check outed, if strage things start happening, it points towards all of the players! Congratulations Grackaroni!
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rayn why did you believe Onegu's claim so easily?
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On August 12 2013 02:03 Chromatically wrote:
rayn why did you believe Onegu's claim so easily?
Why do you think i believe it? I want to hear from the mysterious guy X first. I said "all my suspects claimed blue" i did not say i believed them all.
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