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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 10 2013 04:00 GMT
#1561
Acro has been absolutely useless, popping in once in a while to soft push people and disappear. And look at this scumreads post.

On August 10 2013 05:30 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, people I want to lynch:

jrkirby: in addition to being largely absent, he is completely useless. All his utterances are regarding the structure of this meeting, and he seems completely unconcerned with finding Blackfyres.

FirmTofu: same story, except for his retarded case on me. His presentation of that case was suspect: why did he try to trump his "contribution" so badly? It was a non-contribution from someone who has not contributed at all during this meeting.

Yamato: open his filter. There is nothing there. Would lynch.

I have spent most of the last hour puzzling over s0lstice's filter. I am no longer comfortable lynching him. He is putting real effort into analysing the meeting, and not just into defending himself. I will have to satisfy myself that the internal politics of House Baratheon are retarded, but I don't think continued analysing of why s0lstice didn't vote for DI makes much sense: he is correct that the reasons for a Blackfyre acting that way are equally farfetched to the reasons for a loyalist. I must simply discard that evidence. Is he loyal to the realm? I do not know, but I feel he is a valuable enough asset to let live for now.

So Acro wants to lynch 2 lurkers and someone he doesnt even give proper explanation for.
acro isnt this bad as town. Horrible post. Horrible.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 10 2013 04:01 GMT
#1562
On August 10 2013 12:59 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT is a pure lurker lynch.
I thought we were leaving this to kp?

shut up
no it isn't
read the thread

I read his filter. Its like 7 pages.
No gg, No skill.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 10 2013 04:01 GMT
#1563
On August 10 2013 13:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 12:59 iamperfection wrote:
On August 10 2013 12:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
FT is a pure lurker lynch.
I thought we were leaving this to kp?

shut up
no it isn't
read the thread

I read his filter. Its like 7 pages.

wat
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 10 2013 04:02 GMT
#1564
7 posts, not pages. .

Thats a lurker. He has only commented on Acro in somewhat expanded fashion.

Lurker.
No gg, No skill.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 10 2013 04:02 GMT
#1565
On August 09 2013 14:30 FirmTofu wrote:
I'd just like to say that I formed this opinion independent of any case on Afro currently. I'm still not done reading the thread because I'm cataloging my thoughts(for myself) on most of the posts.

tell me what you see here oats
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 10 2013 04:03 GMT
#1566
On August 10 2013 13:02 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 14:30 FirmTofu wrote:
I'd just like to say that I formed this opinion independent of any case on Afro currently. I'm still not done reading the thread because I'm cataloging my thoughts(for myself) on most of the posts.

tell me what you see here oats

i dunno. Nothing much.
Promised activity i guess..
No gg, No skill.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 10 2013 04:04 GMT
#1567
On August 10 2013 13:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 13:02 iamperfection wrote:
On August 09 2013 14:30 FirmTofu wrote:
I'd just like to say that I formed this opinion independent of any case on Afro currently. I'm still not done reading the thread because I'm cataloging my thoughts(for myself) on most of the posts.

tell me what you see here oats

i dunno. Nothing much.
Promised activity i guess..

why does he need to bring up that he came up with it on his own and why would he be thinking like that
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 10 2013 04:05 GMT
#1568
Cause people have ego's and like to say that they dont sheep and stuff. Surely you have seen people INSIST that they arent sheeping right?
No gg, No skill.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
August 10 2013 04:06 GMT
#1569
On August 09 2013 13:22 Risen wrote:
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On August 09 2013 12:44 FirmTofu wrote:
Hi! I'm finally back in thread! I'll be here with the sole purpose of catching up so you can count on some substantive posts soon. I only got to the 20s while I was at school/work reading on my phone.

Since rayn has already taken the liberty of addressing our house members, I won't bother to discuss that. As I continue reading, I would like to direct attention to Afrocales' first post. If anyone is around, please analyze it and tell me what you think of it. I'd like to bounce some ideas off of people about what it means.


This is so scummy man. How about you analyze it, tell us what you think, and then bounce ideas around? Why are you jumping in on this Acro wagon without anything substantive? Seems to me you're soft-pushing an acro lynch without committing yourself.

ATOBTTR
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 10 2013 04:06 GMT
#1570
On August 10 2013 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause people have ego's and like to say that they dont sheep and stuff. Surely you have seen people INSIST that they arent sheeping right?

not like that
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 10 2013 04:06 GMT
#1571
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.



Why write this? What makes them all scum and why call out oats about haveing town reads on people.

On August 08 2013 20:05 Koshi wrote:
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On August 08 2013 19:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:54 Koshi wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.

I meant how the person in your house got elected.
Your first scumread in Titanic was on a town that you pushed till the end.
Then you found a "townslip" on an actual scum that we suspected and managed to get that scum enough towncred so he didn't get lynched day 1.

Now in this game you say that your entire house is town and that we should just trust you on it.

That's hilarious.


I think sharing townreads is kinda useless. It makes it easier for scum to choose a nk and giving townreads is easy for scum.
Treat it like a regular game with pms, scumhunt in the thread, scumhunt in pms or share reads with people you're fairly sure are town, only bring up pms in the thread if you got a really strong scumread on someone because of it.

Ok I agree.

But at this point we are not doing normal scumhunting. Everybody is discussing the houses while we are not allowed to mention the members in the houses. At this point we can't do any scumhunting at all.



So you agree we shouldnt share townreads, but you just got finished calling out oats for not giving his townreads?


On August 08 2013 23:17 Koshi wrote:
-Dandel told me that s0lstice was either a retard or a scum in 1 message
-I replied to him that s0lstice was nice to me and that there was no reason to believe he was either retarded or scum. I also said that s0llstice actually was a good leader and unlike DI that just wanted to kill Kush "because"
-Which DI answered to "it's not because, it's win/win (It clearly was not a joke like he claims now.)

DI told me that s0lstice was scum again 2 hours later:
I asked him why and I told him I found s0lstice genuine and without extra agenda.
DI replied to me his read on s0ltice and only after that I ran for lord.
______________________________________

1) says the best scumhunter should be lord (Which I thought was s0lstice, I only knew DI from NWM)
1.5) does not vote the best scumhunter, votes the last place he himself stated to share with chrom (this was after all pms)
2) says he and chrom are in similar positions/places (imo yes)
2.5) does not even think about electing chrom but wants himself only because "it's me lol", tries to threaten a no-lord voting because "i (=dandel) cant convince sol to vote with me anyways lololol", so he's basically tried to blackmail me into voting for him (I voted chrom in the end. I just wanted to run because out of 2 equals I should pick myself because chrom might be scum (even though Chrom looks just as good as s0lstice)
3) says he doesn't want to be lord (At first)
3.5) suddenly wants to be lord, utterly unable to explain why (I fucking explained it 10 times)
4) says he won't vote for me because I'm tunneling and won't vote solstice because "there is suspicion on him" (aforementioned oneliner without explanation lol)
4.5) doesn't really fit the numbering thing but this is basically a paradoxon because he's saying he won't listen to me, but won't vote the guy he wanted lord half the phase because I'm suspicious of him.
4.6) If he wasn't listening to me, he wouldn't have listened period, but he's ran straight out of excuses and can't find any.
4.6.1) he probably thought I wouldn't notice because I was tunneling sol apparantly
4.7) at that point i wasn't even tunneling sol, but he didn't care to check that.

Point 4 and below is indeed a bit bad play on my part. But in my gut I just knew that those 2 weren't going to work together and that I should be able to run for Lord.
________________________________________________________
Maybe I took n0 not serious enough for DI. But I had enough bullshit from this guy, he is lying 24/7 and any normal person would descredit him for being Lord after the PMs he sent me.



The only question I have is why not just say ok chrome can be lord, why put your name up after saying you didnt want to be lord?


On August 10 2013 01:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 01:31 s0Lstice wrote: Koshi still looks scummy to me. I just got done talking him out of his big dead red scum read in PMs (Oats) with like 2 lines of text. There's times like this where he really just lacks conviction that makes me think his reads are a pretext.

Everybody thinks Oats is town and tells me that with 2 lines of text. I gave up on Oats.



If they havent given you a good reason why give up on it? That just doesnt make much sense.


On August 10 2013 06:21 Koshi wrote:
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On August 10 2013 06:09 Chromatically wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:45 Grackaroni wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:38 Chromatically wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I read Crackaroni as the exact opposite compared to Chromatically, based on that post.
Why is that a non-contribution Chrom?

How is it a contribution? There's no scumhunting and doesn't help town at all. I would expect town to post the part on iamp and try to do some pressure, or jump on something in the thread, but listing your house and giving townreads is useless.

I gave what I thought about Iamp in the post and I pressured him in pm's as well, and how many first posts involve scumhunting? What about Koshi makes him your 2nd scum read?

Koshi has been posting, but doesn't seem like he cares about the lynch at all. He's halfheartedly pushed Oats, and that's it.

Kirby and Onegu have similar problems, posting without caring about the lynch and not contributing.

I have pushed Oats 3 times in this thread, and every time I get laughed at and everybody telling me that Oats is town because of meta. How can you say I half-heartedly pushed Oats?
On top of that I can't lynch anybody and my Lord thinks I am scum. Obviously I am not as passionate about the lynch as I normally am.

Who are you going to vote on? Because I would love you to go outside our House because I am not scum and s0lstice hasn't done anything scummy except vote for you... You are the only Lord that is actually trying to lynch his own servants.
Kill FT, Oats, Kirby or johnnywup. They are all "active" but completely useless, and with Oats or johnnywup you have a good chance to hit scum.



But you didnt push him that hard, and give me more reasons than they are completely useless.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 10 2013 04:07 GMT
#1572
I have.

Whatever, I dont have a vote and if you guys refuse to listen to me, I cant do anything.
Thoughts on Acro Iamp?
No gg, No skill.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 10 2013 04:10 GMT
#1573
Anyway ##Vote: FirmTofu

I wouldn't really be able to push an Onegu lynch now even if I really wanted to, Tofu was top of my KP list but he's a good lynch too.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 10 2013 04:12 GMT
#1574
On August 10 2013 13:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have.

Whatever, I dont have a vote and if you guys refuse to listen to me, I cant do anything.
Thoughts on Acro Iamp?

felling less and less good about him wish he would alt tab from the international like i am
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
August 10 2013 04:13 GMT
#1575
Onegu who's your number 1 lynch right now?
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 10 2013 04:13 GMT
#1576
Sorry why are lords makeing time slots?
Try TL Mafia!!!
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 10 2013 04:14 GMT
#1577
Sheep me Iamp!
also this lynch too easy.
No gg, No skill.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 10 2013 04:15 GMT
#1578
On August 10 2013 13:13 Onegu wrote:
Sorry why are lords makeing time slots?

for murder and mayhem
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
August 10 2013 04:16 GMT
#1579
On August 10 2013 13:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Sheep me Iamp!
also this lynch too easy.

too easy when the lynch is the hand of 6 people instead of 24 jib jubs

no it is the wagon of justice
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 10 2013 04:20 GMT
#1580
On August 10 2013 13:16 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 13:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Sheep me Iamp!
also this lynch too easy.

too easy when the lynch is the hand of 6 people instead of 24 jib jubs

no it is the wagon of justice

wagon of fail man.
No gg, No skill.
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