On August 10 2013 06:39 johnnywup wrote: ok im gonna reply to stuff directed at me as I'm going through the thread but literally lol rayn you can't be serious
On August 10 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: johnnywup - There are two things why i think johnnywup is mafia. The first one is his overly defensive stance on his 3p thing. When being questioned about that in thread, his first comment is "other people did not find that scummy". That´s really going overboard if you are town, why would you be more interested to tell people that other people did not find you scummy rather than if they thought you were right or wrong and how did you end up in the conclusion? Another thing that stands out is johnnywup´s house member list. In itself list posts are bad, but this is worse. He hasn´t even put a single bit off thought into the lise (notice him not realizing in which house Vivax/Gumshoe are). Scummy as fuck.
I'm defensive. Especially day 1. You should know that from NWM. Literally every single game I've played of mafia I've been accused of being mafia day 1. It's just what I'm used to at this point so of course I'm defensive. I care what people think about me because, well, I don't want to be lynched? That should be obvious.
2nd part is literally lol. It took a bit of effort trying to consolidate that. I had to look through almost everyones filter and try and find connections. When it was all done I couldn't find any connection for Gumshoe and Vivax. Go through everyones filter yourself and try and find what house they're in before the time that I posted that list. I literally couldn't find it. It was difficult putting together that list. And you say list posts are bad, yet people were literally asking for one because they wanted to know who's in what house at a glance. So I put one together.
How do either of those things point towards me being mafia, at all?
lol wat
i always act like mafia therefore im not mafia is not an argument you can make and it dosnt make you town.
and while im sure you worked very hard in making that list its exactly the meaningless contribution a mafia player would make. It doesn't catch mafia and its only purpose is to say hey guys look im contributing when your really not
and i never said its a meaningful contribution but making a list and not knowing which house two people are in doesn't make me look mafia
i'm not saying i'm contributing from that post but someone asked for a list and I wanted it put into a post for convenience sake so i made it. it's just something i thought would be nice and people could refer back to if they needed. i don't understand how that makes me look like mafia?
I don't think making a list like that is a towntell, but it's certainly not a scumtell. That's like saying: Town never make useful contributions to the thread that aren't hunting scum.
On August 10 2013 08:49 johnnywup wrote: thats not what i said
and i never said its a meaningful contribution but making a list and not knowing which house two people are in doesn't make me look mafia
i'm not saying i'm contributing from that post but someone asked for a list and I wanted it put into a post for convenience sake so i made it. it's just something i thought would be nice and people could refer back to if they needed. i don't understand how that makes me look like mafia?
if you could say you have made a contribution what would it be?
On August 10 2013 08:49 johnnywup wrote: thats not what i said
and i never said its a meaningful contribution but making a list and not knowing which house two people are in doesn't make me look mafia
i'm not saying i'm contributing from that post but someone asked for a list and I wanted it put into a post for convenience sake so i made it. it's just something i thought would be nice and people could refer back to if they needed. i don't understand how that makes me look like mafia?
if you could say you have made a contribution what would it be?
On August 10 2013 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: i pretty much think he gave us nothing, that bothers me much. Who do you want to lynch? Who are we shooting?
On August 10 2013 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: i pretty much think he gave us nothing, that bothers me much. Who do you want to lynch? Who are we shooting?
shoot nacho and gum
i probably want to lynch tofu want to join me?
I am okay with lynching Tofu. you shoot nacho with me, or want us both to shoot gum? or both different? SnB voting for onegu bothers me a bit. On the other hand Clarity wanting to lynch him makes me feel better about it. What do you think of Onegu lynch? or johnnywup?
On August 10 2013 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: i pretty much think he gave us nothing, that bothers me much. Who do you want to lynch? Who are we shooting?
shoot nacho and gum
i probably want to lynch tofu want to join me?
I am okay with lynching Tofu. you shoot nacho with me, or want us both to shoot gum? or both different? SnB voting for onegu bothers me a bit. On the other hand Clarity wanting to lynch him makes me feel better about it. What do you think of Onegu lynch? or johnnywup?
On August 10 2013 08:49 johnnywup wrote: thats not what i said
and i never said its a meaningful contribution but making a list and not knowing which house two people are in doesn't make me look mafia
i'm not saying i'm contributing from that post but someone asked for a list and I wanted it put into a post for convenience sake so i made it. it's just something i thought would be nice and people could refer back to if they needed. i don't understand how that makes me look like mafia?
Go more in depth about your FT scumread please, you give me the impression you aren't reading the thread properly and only throw in some half-assed scumread to calm down the waters. If you're defensive, town and know it, you could try to change that and actually show some interest into finding out who's scum.
Instead you don't seem to show any interest whatsoever into covnincing the lords to get to the right lynch, only to survive, and that seems a lot like scum play.
Most of my house seems interested into lynching Onegu, although I still need to get a clearer picture from PMs. Oats is like disappeared currently, still waiting for a few replies. I'm kinda unsure on the choice but I can't find any particular reason for assuming Onegu is town at this point either.
I feel that some of the points brought up against him are also similar to stuff that others are similarly guilty of: Lack of sharing scumreads, and lack of interest, I can't tell if he's genuinely busy though and would argue that someone like johnny has a similar style but doesn't have an excuse.
I think the currently most viable options for the lords to consolidate are Onegu, yammo and johnnywup. I don't think I got them too convinced on Koshi.
Of those available I endorse both a yammo and a johnnywup lynch. Oberyn's points from his pm traffic seem very strong and so far I don't recall yammo fighting back to those properly, which is not townie from someone I would expect to be more headstrong.
Johnny is scummy for reasons that I hopefully clarified for everyone.
Onegu is an okayish lynch but not the best in my opinion, I'd give him some time to see if his claim of being busy is legit. In that case his activity should pick up.
On August 10 2013 06:06 strongandbig wrote: i also wouldn't mind lynching acro for playing in character.
That seems scummy. It would make sense if he asked acro to stop playing in character, but lynch him for it? Also this is after Oberyn puts his vote on acro. Perhaps he's trying to push a wagon on someone he knows is town.
The rest of his filter seems fine, but that's pretty scummy there.
EPT
